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    USAID is kaput

    our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

    the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the cons itution and democracy

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    it's as bad/worse than J6 and people need to start talking like it

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    Donating to Democrats can get you purged from trump's government

    “Offenses” for the workers listed on the website include working on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, donating to Democrats and using pronouns in their bios.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ets-rcna190711

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    Trump is essentially making lists of women and black people in government who are out of line. One purpose of the political purge is resegregating the US government.

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    are y'all ready to start killing other Americans?

    you already broke our cons ution

    Musk has seized hold of critical levers of power and authority within the federal government, apparently enabling him to destroy federal agencies at will, barring congressional action or judicial pushback.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/o...e=articleShare

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    No one in the executive branch has the legal authority to unilaterally cancel congressional appropriations. No one has the legal authority to turn the Treasury payments system into a means of political retribution. No one has the authority to summarily dismiss civil servants without cause. No one has the authority to take down and scrub government websites of public data, itself paid for by American taxpayers. And no private citizen has the authority to access the sensitive data of American citizens for either information gathering or their own, unknown purposes.

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    To describe the current situation in the executive branch as merely a cons utional crisis is to understate the significance of what we’re experiencing. “Cons utional crisis” does not even begin to capture the radicalism of what is unfolding in the federal bureaucracy and of what Congress’s decision not to act may liquidate in terms of cons utional meaning.

    Together, Trump and Musk are trying to rewrite the rules of the American system. They are trying to instantiate an anti-cons utional theory of executive power that would make the president supreme over all other branches of government. They are doing so in service of a plutocratic agenda of austerity and the upward redistribution of wealth. And the longer Congress stands by, the more this is fixed in place.

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    But as those opponents strategize their response, it is vital that see the important truth that there is no going back to the status quo ante. President Trump and Elon Musk really have altered the structure of things. They’ve taken steps that cannot be so easily reversed. If American cons utional democracy is a game, then they’ve flipped the board with the aim of using the same pieces to play a new game with their own boutique rules.

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    USAID is kaput

    our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

    the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the cons itution and democracy
    It was being used as a giant slush fund, it needed to be audited.

    Take some time looking through this twitter feed

    https://x.com/DataRepublican

    And then have some fun using the tool she built to search the grants on USAspending.gov

    https://datarepublican.com/

    Mind blowing scheme being run

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    Gently, softly, calmly, let’s talk about what’s happening in DC right now.

    Friends, have you ever been through a ZBB process? If not, let me give you my take. So, in a corporation where expenses are out of control, you have to put the entire company through a zero based budgeting process. It is one of the most painful things that people in a company experience.

    You basically have to justify every. single. expense. And you also cut a bunch, and then only add back after you’ve gone through a proper ZBB cycle.

    The US government is going through a ZBB right now. And that is necessary because spending is out of control. The complexity is so vast that I expect it will take AI to decipher.

    You cannot tell me that a government that accidentally wires hundreds of millions of dollars to the Taliban has its finances in order. That signals an underlying disaster. That signals bad stewardship of resources.

    In fact, it is a disaster. Over the last 20 fiscal years, the US government has made ~$2.7 trillion in "improper payments," according to the US Government Accountability Office. Trillion! With a T!

    That financial management disaster was not caused by Elonmusk
    . And there is no painless way to clean it up.

    Elon is doing what any executive would do walking into a giant mess. You ZBB and then build back.

    So, I don’t believe that America is going to be on the wrong side of global right and wrong, as some are saying. I don’t believe that America is going to be permanently isolationist. I do believe that unwatched finances will get out of control in any human system, and that the GAO has been trying to ring this bell for years, and that scaled complexity requires scaled financial management.

    Because the US has the largest budget in the world, it will now go through the single most complex ZBB ever undertaken in the history of the world.

    Some states do ZBB, but it's never been done at the federal level. President Jimmy Carter tried, but the bureaucratic systems were too complex, and President Ronald Reagan abandoned the attempt.

    So, if there is one person in the world chosen to lead this Grand Canyon of projects, we would hope for the president to choose one of the best capital allocators on the planet. Better if that human is also one who can leverage AI and technical talent to manage the massive complexity.

    Anyone who has lived through a ZBB at the corporate level will tell you that it’s and everyone hates it. This is why I feel really bad for federal workers -- I have a lot of empathy for civil servants and people doing a great job every day for the United States. No doubt, the uncertainty is trying and stressful for many. It's an unfortunate situation.

    So, that's my take. I don't want to speak beyond what I know and can observe from the other side of the country. I've worked both in the private sector and the public sector -- the cultures are different. And an Elon-Musk-style culture is going to be the most hard core of them all. No doubt, it's jarring. It's gonna be a lot.

    But what I also know is that every time I have ever doubted Elon, I ended up being the one who was wrong.


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    It was being used as a giant slush fund, it needed to be audited.

    Take some time looking through this twitter feed

    https://x.com/DataRepublican

    And then have some fun using the tool she built to search the grants on USAspending.gov

    https://datarepublican.com/

    Mind blowing scheme being run

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    Is what Elon is doing legal, TSA?

    Yes or no.

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    Life comes at you fast
    Sometimes

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    Is what Elon is doing legal, TSA?

    Yes or no.
    I'll need you to cite the specific law you think Elon is breaking before I can answer your question.

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    USAID is kaput

    our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

    the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the cons itution and democracy
    USAID has been completely unaccountable for decades, run by bureaucrats with agendas who believed they answered to nobody.

    Here are a few more of the ridiculous projects on which they spent YOUR money:

    — $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid “binary-gendered language”

    — $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq

    — $4.5+ million to “combat disinformation” in Kazakhstan

    — $1.5 million for “art for inclusion of people with disabilities”

    — $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala

    — $6 million to “transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles”

    — $2.1 million to help the BBC “value the diversity of Libyan society”

    — $10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group

    — $25 million for Deloitte to promote “green transportation” in the country of Georgia

    — $6 million for tourism in Egypt

    — $2.5 million to promote “inclusion” in Vietnam

    — $16.8 million for a SEPARATE “inclusion” group in Vietnam

    — ~$5 million to EcoHealth Alliance, one of the key NGOs funding bat virus research at the Wuhan lab

    — $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

    — $1.1 million to an Armenian “LGBT group”

    — $1.2 million to help the African Methodist Episcopal Church Service and Development Agency in Washington, D.C., build “a state-of-the-art 440 seat auditorium”

    — $1.3 million to Arab and Jewish photographers

    — $1.5 million to promote “LGBT advocacy” in Jamaica

    — $1.5 million to “rebuild” the Cuban media ecosystem

    — $2 million to promote “LGBT equality through entrepreneurship” in Latin America

    — $500K to solve sectarian violence in Israel (just ten days before the Hamas October 7 attack)

    — $2.3 million for “artisanal and small scale gold mining” in the Amazon

    — $3.9 million for “LGBT causes” in the western Balkans

    — $5.5 million for LGBT activism in Uganda

    — $6 million for advancing LGBT issues in “priority countries around the world”

    — $6.3 million for men who have sex with men in South Africa

    — $8.3 million for “USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion”

    — USAID’s “climate strategy” outlined a $150 billion “whole-of-agency” approach to building an “equitable world with net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

    For decades, USAID bureaucrats believed they were accountable to no one — but that era is over.

    President Trump is STOPPING the waste, fraud, and abuse.


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    USAID is kaput

    our system wasn't made for naked power grabs like this

    the abandonment of democratic norms is itself revolutionary -- this is war on the cons itution and democracy

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    I'll need you to cite the specific law you think Elon is breaking before I can answer your question
    Dodge #1.

    Well we'll get nowhere with that. How about you answer the last question I asked.

    Is Trump a ghoul for blaming the midair collision on DEI before the bodies were even recovered?

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    Did you really just ask if something was legal and not even have one law in mind that was possibly being broken?

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    Did you really just ask if something was legal and not even have one law in mind that was possibly being broken?
    It's just a question I was asking you.

    You have no answer. Moving on.

    Is Trump a ghoul for blaming the midair collision on DEI before the bodies were even recovered?

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    It's just a question I was asking you.

    You have no answer. Moving on.
    I am not aware of any laws Elon is breaking.

    Is what Elon is doing illegal, ChumpDumper?

    Is Trump a ghoul for blaming the midair collision on DEI before the bodies were even recovered?
    sure

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    I am not aware of any laws Elon is breaking.

    Is what Elon is doing illegal, ChumpDumper?
    Unsure. That's why I asked.

    The fact that we are both unsure certainly say something.

    sure
    you sure aren't as forceful as you were when you condemned an ST poster for "politicizing" the collision. Trump must be protected!

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    It was being used as a giant slush fund, it needed to be audited.

    Take some time looking through this twitter feed

    https://x.com/DataRepublican

    And then have some fun using the tool she built to search the grants on USAspending.gov

    https://datarepublican.com/

    Mind blowing scheme being run

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    What needs to be approved?

    It was his census.

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