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    If you look at the Nets cap situation it looks like they’re going to make a run in the 2026 free agent class so they would probably prefer Barnes over KJ.

    Spurs get:
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    Nets get:
    Barnes
    Spurs 2025 first top four protected plus two second rounders.

    I’d also do Sochan instead of the first rounder too. Add shooting while getting rid of non-shooting.

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    Can you stop putting Barnes in trades? We're not trading Barnes. He's our only forward with legit size and shooting ability. Trading Barnes for Cam would be a lateral move. Barnes also plays bigger, Cam can't play PF.
    Barnes isn't even that old, just 32. He's a veteran forward every team needs. Does a bit of everything, isn't bothered by lack of shots in some games and is a model professional.
    As I said when we got him, he's our next Finley.

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    If you look at the Nets cap situation it looks like they’re going to make a run in the 2026 free agent class so they would probably prefer Barnes over KJ.

    Spurs get:
    Johnson

    Nets get:
    Barnes
    Spurs 2025 first top four protected plus two second rounders.

    I’d also do Sochan instead of the first rounder too. Add shooting while getting rid of non-shooting.
    Spurs are not dumping Barnes to the Nets. They won’t do him like that after we waived his trade kicker.

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    Can you stop putting Barnes in trades? We're not trading Barnes. He's our only forward with legit size and shooting ability. Trading Barnes for Cam would be a lateral move. Barnes also plays bigger, Cam can't play PF.
    Barnes isn't even that old, just 32. He's a veteran forward every team needs. Does a bit of everything, isn't bothered by lack of shots in some games and is a model professional.
    As I said when we got him, he's our next Finley.
    Cam Johnson's listed position is PF for his entire career. 6'8 210LB's and shoots the three at 39%.

    I'd be shocked if the Spurs promised to not trade Barnes to waive his trade kicker. More than likely they promised him minutes and a spot in the starting five.

    You sound weirdly emotionally invested in Barnes for some reason.

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    Cam Johnson's listed position is PF for his entire career. 6'8 210LB's and shoots the three at 39%.

    I'd be shocked if the Spurs promised to not trade Barnes to waive his trade kicker. More than likely they promised him minutes and a spot in the starting five.

    You sound weirdly emotionally invested in Barnes for some reason.
    Because he's a very good player. Trading him for Johnson would be one step forward and one step back.

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    Can you stop putting Barnes in trades? We're not trading Barnes. He's our only forward with legit size and shooting ability. Trading Barnes for Cam would be a lateral move. Barnes also plays bigger, Cam can't play PF.
    Barnes isn't even that old, just 32. He's a veteran forward every team needs. Does a bit of everything, isn't bothered by lack of shots in some games and is a model professional.
    As I said when we got him, he's our next Finley.
    He also suits up and plays in every game. This is an underrated ability and very useful for a squad. Players like Barnes and Mikal Bridges set the standard by turning up for every game and inspire locker room colleagues to push themselves to do so too.

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    Cam Johnson's listed position is PF for his entire career. 6'8 210LB's and shoots the three at 39%.
    Sometimes listed measurements aren't enough, Barnes plays bigger even though he's too small in a lot of matchups.

    I'd be shocked if the Spurs promised to not trade Barnes to waive his trade kicker. More than likely they promised him minutes and a spot in the starting five.
    I didn't say anything about this, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a lateral move and send FRPs out.

    You sound weirdly emotionally invested in Barnes for some reason.
    I'm not, I just don't think Cam is worth sending a starter and a FRP out.
    Not counting garbage minute scrubs, Barnes is at 42% from 3pt this season.
    The next best regular rotation members CP3 and Champ are at 36%.

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    Spurs are not dumping Barnes to the Nets. They won’t do him like that after we waived his trade kicker.
    Again I would be very surprised if the Spurs gave Barnes a defacto no trade clause. He was probably promised minutes and a spot in the starting five. Spurs didn't need Barnes and by waiving his trade kicker he was doing three organizations a favor and DDR a favor too.

    Its hard standing in the way of so much business as a career role player especially with a legit star in the mix like DDR.

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    kiwi needs to do us a solid kj & a 1st

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    Atlanta just traded hunter they just got much worse

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    Spurs didn't need Barnes and by waiving his trade kicker he was doing three organizations a favor and DDR a favor too.
    We absolutely needed a wing with size and respectable 3pt shot.
    Being paid to get Barnes was ideal.

    Its hard standing in the way of so much business as a career role player especially with a legit star in the mix like DDR.
    Now you're just trying to push a hillariously bad narrative.

    Tbh, what's your issue with Barnes?
    He's our best shooter and doesn't make awful defensive mistakes.
    Stays in his lane, doesn't hero ball, sometimes drops 20+ and is always ready, I don't understand why would anyone want to trade him away.
    If we can get KD or another star, then by all means, but I'm not trading him for Cam Johnson.

    Btw, Champ averages 13ppg on 37% as a starter. We have poor man's Cam at home.

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    Sometimes listed measurements aren't enough, Barnes plays bigger even though he's too small in a lot of matchups.



    I didn't say anything about this, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a lateral move and send FRPs out.



    I'm not, I just don't think Cam is worth sending a starter and a FRP out.
    Not counting garbage minute scrubs, Barnes is at 42% from 3pt this season.
    The next best regular rotation members CP3 and Champ are at 36%.
    You said Cam couldn't play PF which has nothing to do with Barnes.

    Cam is averaging 19/4/2 on 48/41/90 shooting splits. Like I said in another thread Cam is Great Value Lauri who can be had for cheaper.

    Not a lateral move at all. Big upgrade. Automatically the third best player on the team.

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    Sometimes listed measurements aren't enough, Barnes plays bigger even though he's too small in a lot of matchups.



    I didn't say anything about this, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a lateral move and send FRPs out.



    I'm not, I just don't think Cam is worth sending a starter and a FRP out.
    Not counting garbage minute scrubs, Barnes is at 42% from 3pt this season.
    The next best regular rotation members CP3 and Champ are at 36%.
    Fully agree.

    And this year, Cam's numbers are definitely going to be higher with the minutes and opportunities. If he came to Spurs, his numbers would be similar to when he played with the Suns and/or similar numbers to Barnes now w/the Spurs. No need to give up FRP for that.

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    If you look at the Nets cap situation it looks like they’re going to make a run in the 2026 free agent class so they would probably prefer Barnes over KJ.

    Spurs get:
    Johnson

    Nets get:
    Barnes
    Spurs 2025 first top four protected plus two second rounders.

    I’d also do Sochan instead of the first rounder too. Add shooting while getting rid of non-shooting.
    No way Im doing a pick like that for Cam. No freaking way.

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    You said Cam couldn't play PF which has nothing to do with Barnes.

    Cam is averaging 19/4/2 on 48/41/90 shooting splits. Like I said in another thread Cam is Great Value Lauri who can be had for cheaper.

    Not a lateral move at all. Big upgrade. Automatically the third best player on the team.
    Cam is just a tank commander right now, ultimate green light on a horrible team.
    Never averaged more than 13ppg on a winning team.

    Lauri is a few tiers above him.

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    We can’t trade that Hawks pick now. They’re throwing in the towel.

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    I don’t think ATL got a lot worse. LeVert is a solid player and scores and they get 3 2nds + 2 swaps for him.

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    Atlanta just traded hunter they just got much worse
    crazy he was good last night

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    cam or herb please brian!

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    I don’t think ATL got a lot worse. LeVert is a solid player and scores and they get 3 2nds + 2 swaps for him.
    Caris isn't a horrible player, but super streaky. Look at his last two games (0-5, 0-8). He's a world beater one night and a guy who couldn't hit the side of a barn the other. With ATL though, he could get more minutes. We'll see.

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    No way Im doing a pick like that for Cam. No freaking way.
    Its top four protected and if you know how the lottery works the Spurs pick will either be in 11-16 range or it will jump to top 4. Good thing the pick would be top four protected.

    With Fox in the fold that pick will probably end up closer to 16 than 11.

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    Cam is just a tank commander right now, ultimate green light on a horrible team.
    Never averaged more than 13ppg on a winning team.

    Lauri is a few tiers above him.
    his shooting numbers are crazy i think your wrong on that

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    It wouldn’t be a trade deadline without Dinwiddie or Levert.

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    ATL is loaded at wing with Risacher looking very good and Jalen Johnson looking like an all star. They can definitely use Hunters 23M better elsewhere and now opened up cap space next season alongside getting more assets to use to trade and build around Trae.

    They may be *slightly* worse this season since Hunter is better than LeVert but LeVert is also very solid. But this trade hurts 26 & 27 for SA IMO

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    I don’t think ATL got a lot worse. LeVert is a solid player and scores and they get 3 2nds + 2 swaps for him.
    Unless those swaps are way out in the future, they're worthless. Cleveland is stacked.

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