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2.5 years into working on his shooting and he's still getting end of quarter shot clock violations because he won't shoot when wide open
Gotta get rid of this guy.
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He should be taking 20 shots a game, easy. You don’t get better at shooting by not shooting.
I said it in the other thread. Relative to his draft placement, he is easily the most underwhelming draft pick in Spurs history judging by purely basketball reasons (Primo case aside)
If only others could comprehend this.
In all honesty and not through Spurs colored glasses. Which team would offer him more than 12 million a year? I’d offer him a 4 year 40 million dollar deal and let his agent look for another offer to match
Some poorly managed team would offer him the MLE, which is all he's worth at most.
He's basically Kyle Anderson. Solid though unremarkable defender, sometimes thinks he's a point guard, can't or won't shoot. Difference is Kyle had a higher ball IQ that coaches trusted to make the right play.
Kyle never earned nor deserved more than the mle, but he didn't have that top 10 pick shine either to get overpaid from.
I dont know what people want from that draft; even with hindsight only guy I take for sure over Sochan that went after him is Jalen Williams. Maybe you can argue Eason, but that’s close.
He’s a very solid player with some offensive warts but still an impact guy IMO
It won’t bother me if they keep him for a lowball figure. He’s just too small, and his “island time” demeanor will have a hard time translating to the league.
With his 7’ wingspan if he’d develop any type of reliable floater in the lane with a high release that could be his go to. Or at least draw enough defensive attention to where defenders couldn’t totally overplay his kickout passss like they do now.
No he shouldn't. He hasn't earned the right to be a big part of the offense, taking 20 shots a game.
You develop a shot by working in the off season. When he came in still shooting free throws one handed it was pretty obvious he hadn't touched a basketball during the summer.
We're tanking he should have green light like castle
I don't even think his 7-0 wingspan is a trustworthy number. Was he ever measured at a combine? Or official fiba camp numbers?
People get stuff wrong with that all the time. Dejounte only had an on record measurement of 6-9.5 but lots of people would go on and on about a 7 foot wingspan for him
Not that a +4 on his height would be surprising, just doesn't pass the eye test for me
He came in shooting with both hands.
That's how you watch him play
IMO, his shooting and form have improved. Problem is his confidence in it. Starting to feel a lot of the team isn't as bad as we think; the coaching is just really ing with everything.
Add that to the list of taboo topics that gets the fanbase overly sensitive. Probably the hair... ^^
I would have tried (still possible?) to involve him in a trade and wouldn't sign him. Period.
Places are limited and we can find so many other profiles to develop with a lot less limitations.
Whatever we pay him will be too much, not just financially but in terms of playing time and long term investment
It's not just the shooting, it's the IQ, the immaturity, the clumsiness etc There's way too much to work on and we've barely seen any progress in year 3 already
a lot of our players are being played out of position and have roles that don't fit their strengths.
He prepared and played in the FIBA Olympic qualifiers.
Do not EVER compare Sochans defense to Drays.
Somehow I know that if Spurs would trade him, he would roast them from behind the line.
If we had a crystal ball and knew the future of all of these players, JWill, Duren, Eason, LaRavia, Braun and Kessler all would have been better picks than Sochan... but we don't have a crystal ball so you're right that we shouldn't fret too much. It's not like Sochan was an obvious reach - he went around where folks expected him to. The scouting reports highlighted all of the areas that needed to be developed, and our development staff hasn't delivered results in that area.
With all that said, we just need to make sure we don't turn a draft pick that didn't fully hit into a big, long term mistake by overpaying him for an extension that he hasn't earned yet, betting on the upside. 4 year deal just under the MLE seems like it would be correct. We'll see what happens. Whatever they save on Sochan's extension they should invest into the developmental staff.
I was down on him after the last season, but he somewhat won me over at the beginning of this one. He played with a purpose.
Then he got moved to backup C and all the positive momentum he had going was gone.
Jumpshot aside, my biggest issue with him is that he entered a phase of not knowing what to do yet again and not all of it is on the position he's playing.
Early on in the season every time he got the ball in the paint it looked like he had a plan and knew how it's going to play out.
Right now he just thinks about the very next thing that's going to happen and ignores everything else.
It's like teams are baiting him into drives because whenever he gets into the paint it's easy to shut him down and then he makes bad decisions, turns the ball over or just wastes time on the clock.
Some of his issues are obviously Mitch's fault because none of our limited players have looked good as of late, they need to be put in roles that are strictly defined so they don't overthink it.
But a lot of his issues are fundamental and I have no idea what's PATFO's plan regarding his extension.
Like a month ago I wrote I'd be happy with 80 to 90/5, but if he doesn't improve his level of play, that figure will keep dropping. Right now he's playing like someone who might not be worth more than 50/5.
50/5 isn't even MLE money. I bet Sochan would get plenty of MLE offers if he makes it free agency. If other teams had cap space they would offer at least 75/4 imo.
I would be very happy if the Spurs extend him for 80/5, and 90/5 would still be good. 100/5 is about the breakeven point for me.
I'd rather let him walk with nothing in return than offer him 100/5.
Castle and him won't be able to play together for some time, he's just not worth that money.
Shooting issues aside, what does he even excel at? He's a good defender, solid rebounder, but players who can't shoot need to be elite at something.
He's an average athlete for his size.
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