Spurs talk beginning at 23:40. They rip Paul starting and the bad rotations. Also talk about Castle playing only 20 minutes yesterday.
A couple of long shots here,
but maybe Pop has had quiet talks with Kerr about him taking over after his contract is up in 2026?
Second, if Quinn Snyder gets fired in Atlanta, that might be a candidate.
Spurs talk beginning at 23:40. They rip Paul starting and the bad rotations. Also talk about Castle playing only 20 minutes yesterday.
It was refreshing hearing PJ Carlisimo on the broadcast last night. He was not afraid to call out the bad decision making and lazy play by the spurs. Imagine having a guy like that, who actually holds players accountable coaching this team.
You ABSOLUTELY do not want Thibs as a coach. He’ll run everyone into the ground playing a 7 man rotation.
Tbh, get one of those European lunatics who curse the players out on every time-out.![]()
I still think PJ was the real masterind behind Pop that set the Spurs tone of achieving the next level but I digress
PJ was a great assistant and i love him as an analyst. he was great at Seton Hall but just never seemed to cut the mus as a head coach in the league. makes no sense because he did a pretty decent job with the blazers and the nets.
Last edited by rjv; 02-11-2025 at 01:35 PM.
The Nets are a big part of the problem. You also have to have a decent ownership to be successful as a coach. I don't know much about the Blazers but the Nets are a joke on that front.
it‘s like starting Bryn Forbes. Everybody sees that it’s idiotic, everybody knows what the starting line up should be, but our coaching staff „keeps pounding the rock“![]()
yes, it was great listening to PJ's takes. He called out so many spurs, lazy defense, not going for the rebounds, not rebounding and not finishing defensive possessions with rebounds, taking ill advised shots and so forth.
This young team is polar opposite to our Duncan/Parker/Manu days with not only style of play but simply making the right plays. Nothing fancy, just simple things like attacking the paint instead of settling for a 3.
KOC calling out Mitch Johnson/PATFO for their malpractice. Castle should be starting over CP3, period.
someone should just point blank ask mitch "what kind of productivity or performance would it take to justify starting stephon"
paul starting isnt just getting in the way of Castle, thats just one piece of it. it also makes for an undersized backcourt, has either him or fox playing out of position, and also makes it a lot harder to stagger minutes between fox and paul to ensure we have at least one of them on the floor at all times
It's funny, this front office has pretty much complete power and autonomy, but they make these decisions that feel like they were overly discussed in meetings and basically the result of an awkward compromise where nothing good happens but no one's too insulted. Like politics.
Get someone who Victor will allow to curse him out on the regular. Then nobody else can ever complain when it's their turn. Pop/Duncan part II.
Good to know, I don’t follow him closely; I just remember a game or two I’ve seen where his team (maybe back when he was with the Bulls) played tenacious team defense.
Spurs clearly promised CP3 the starting job to get him here and can't go back on it. Probably didn't think there was any way in they'd land a guy like Fox so cheaply without giving up any Atlanta picks nor players so it was a reasonable idea at the time. And CP3 was making the team so much better at the time but yeah he and Fox together is a bad lineup.
he should still play plenty, but they need to stagger his minutes with Fox's as much as possible. if Fox is playing 36 minutes, then 12 of Pauls' minutes absolutely have to come during those intervals, no question. there is no reason not to, and if starting him is contributing to that, then that should change
there are 96 guard minutes available.
if Fox plays 36 and Caslte plays, say, 30, there are still 30 minutes to go around. let paul play his 25-26 minutes, and the remainder of that time can just be a bigger lineup where one of vassell/champ are occupying the 2.
i dont know exactly what has to change, but steph getting 19 minutes, in a game where he was playing well, and coming off a string of games where he's been a top 3 player on the team... its not working
CP3 is arguably a top 3 Spurs FA signing, behind LMA and Findog. If you break a promise like that, it’ll be even harder for us to sign top FAs. It’s not worth it just to chase a playin spot.
We'll have the best player in the league, you really think anyone will remember CP0's corpse 5-10 years down the line?
It's not about a play-in spot, but about the development of our second best young player.
I already forgot who, but someone in the national media said recently (Haynes?) that the Spurs didn't intend to fast track their re-build until Fox essentially fell into their lap.
Either way, I would think that has to change this off season, but in the interim they're clearly not all-in to make the play-in.
I still think there's a chance of a "come to Jesus" meeting during the All-Star break with Paul and he gets released to sign with a contender, but if not they clearly won't break their promise to him.
As for not staggering Fox and Paul, I suspect it's to see how Castle does running "his own" unit, to get a sense of how to proceed in the off season as far as secondary play making.
If he can be something of a Ginobili to Fox's Parker, then they can return the same guard corps sans Paul. If not, it'll be another area (albeit down the list) to consider addressing.
The rest of the rotation, this is what happens when you have a jumble of politics, lack positional size + two-way players: You constantly have to rob Peter to pay Paul.
a secondary playmaker doesnt need his own unit. thats what makes him secondary. for all the talk about castle being the point guard of the future, we just traded for and are likely to extend Fox who is a point guard. if they want to see how castle's future looks as a secondary playmaker alongside de'aaron fox, the way to do that would be to play him alongside de'aaron fox
I meant it in multiple senses. Sure, Castle will eventually be the secondary play maker alongside Fox, but can he also handle primary duties in the non Fox minutes?
They'll have to decide what to do with Vassell, but right now they've invested quite a bit asset wise and financially in the back court and probably want to get a sense of whether they can essentially cross it off the list or not.
These two guys, who probably only watch condensed versions of games on LeaguePass replay, able to diagnose our team better than any of the beat writers who cover the team day in and day out![]()
They must be posters here.
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