Devin Vassell has to go asap.

[Sigz]

WTF happened to Vassell. Starting to get that Kobe chuckin' bricks vibes.

[SpursBills]

This might be me overreacting to this year specifically, but would anybody do something like this trade in the offseason?

In principle, Milwaukee gets Vassell for Bobby Portis, Connaughton, whatever other salaries to make the deal work, and a 2031 unprotected first and 2032 unprotected swap?

Basically, Milwaukee strikes me as a semi-desperate team that doesn't' want to lose Giannis. Vassell slots in nicely next to Dame and his shooting helps to space the floor for Giannis.

Portis is a temporary stretch 5 that gives spacing. Everybody else is just salary filler that you eat so that you can open up a ton of cap room in 2026 to make a play on Durant or JJJ or whomever. 2031 unprotected 1st and 2032 swap will be when Giannis is 36 and 37 with no picks to improve the team while Wemby will be in his age 27 and should be in his prime. It seems like you're selling low on Vassell, but if you draft well with two potential lottery picks this year, I don't think you lose too much. This also gets rid of the added temptation of starting Vassell with Fox and leaving Castle on the bench.

[Em-City]

This might be me overreacting to this year specifically, but would anybody do something like this trade in the offseason?

In principle, Milwaukee gets Vassell for Bobby Portis, Connaughton, whatever other salaries to make the deal work, and a 2031 unprotected first and 2032 unprotected swap?

Basically, Milwaukee strikes me as a semi-desperate team that doesn't' want to lose Giannis. Vassell slots in nicely next to Dame and his shooting helps to space the floor for Giannis.

Portis is a temporary stretch 5 that gives spacing. Everybody else is just salary filler that you eat so that you can open up a ton of cap room in 2026 to make a play on Durant or JJJ or whomever. 2031 unprotected 1st and 2032 swap will be when Giannis is 36 and 37 with no picks to improve the team while Wemby will be in his age 27 and should be in his prime. It seems like you're selling low on Vassell, but if you draft well with two potential lottery picks this year, I don't think you lose too much. This also gets rid of the added temptation of starting Vassell with Fox and leaving Castle on the bench.

I was also discussing vassell for bobby +salary filler with a friend the other day.

The trade seems fair but no way bucks add draft collateral

[SpursBills]

I was also discussing vassell for bobby +salary filler with a friend the other day.

The trade seems fair but no way bucks add draft collateral

Might be wishful thinking on my part, but I think a decent salesman can make the following case to a desperate GM:

1. Vassell is still just 24, not in his prime, and 1 year removed from an efficient 20/4/4 season. He's had a down year this year because he's still been working his way back from injury but prior to this year his year to year trajectory was pointing upwards. With Giannis and Dame he can be the perfect 3rd banana
2. He's not giving up any size at the 2 guard position next to Dame so you're not going to have to go small
3. He's locked into a reasonable 3rd banana salary for the rest of Giannis' prime
4. Portis is just a one year rental after which he'll become a lot more expensive; Connaughton provides basically nothing for what he's getting paid
5. Who cares about a draft pick 5 years down the road when the goal should be to maximize your franchise's once in a generation player for the rest of his prime?

I think that's probably enough to squeeze at least an unprotected swap from them, and possibly an unprotected first altogether which would be great

[BatManu20]

[NASpurs]

[Sigz]

Oh look, another terrible game from Vassell.

[Extra Stout]

Vassell will always occasionally have good offensive production, but the consistently bad defense and poor basketball IQ make him useless on a team trying to win. But it appears the Spurs are still in tank mode at least for this year, so he’ll continue to start.

[BatManu20]

Yea this aged like milk. Dude has been horrendous today.

[scott]

Reminder, on February 12, 2025 Devin had "turned the corner".

Still to be determined which corner this was. Might have been the wrong direction down a one-way street.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

He has the worst shooting release in the NBA as well, and his feet are always never set. He’s always fading away or drifting to the left on spot ups even. It’s like who’s the shooting coaches on this team? Who’s developing these morons?

[Mugen]

He's actually pretty decent when he attacks the rim. I don't know why he's so allergic to doing it and instead settles for those bs midrange fadeaways.

[Joseph Kony]

this dude has basically turned into a taller and more expensive Bryn Forbes. atrocious on defense, tunnel vision on offense, cant be counted on to do anything when it matters, routinely chokes, etc. dude peaked as a rookie on defense and has gotten considerably worse every year since. now he's supposed to be our best scorer but averages 16ppg on mediocre efficiency while being a complete turnstile on D. get this bum off the team. it is a slap in the face to our franchise and spurs fans that this dude is the highest paid spurs play ever

[TD 21]

it is a slap in the face to our franchise and spurs fans that this dude is the highest paid spurs play ever

It's really just a function of timing on multiple fronts: The cap being what it was and projected to grow to year over year when he was extension eligible and the fact that they had a dearth of anything resembling high end talent at the time, save pre rookie Wembanyama.

[Joseph Kony]

It's really just a function of timing on multiple fronts: The cap being what it was and projected to grow to year over year when he was extension eligible and the fact that they had a dearth of anything resembling high end talent at the time, save pre rookie Wembanyama.

agree, but still a tough pill to swallow regardless

[itzsoweezee]

He has the worst shooting release in the NBA as well, and his feet are always never set. He’s always fading away or drifting to the left on spot ups even. It’s like who’s the shooting coaches on this team? Who’s developing these morons?

Yes! He has one of the ugliest shooting forms in the league.

He doesn’t seem so bad finishing around the rim, so I don’t understand why he thinks of himself as a shooter. Just do what you’re capable of. You’re no gunner

[timtonymanu]

this dude has basically turned into a taller and more expensive Bryn Forbes. atrocious on defense, tunnel vision on offense, cant be counted on to do anything when it matters, routinely chokes, etc. dude peaked as a rookie on defense and has gotten considerably worse every year since. now he's supposed to be our best scorer but averages 16ppg on mediocre efficiency while being a complete turnstile on D. get this bum off the team. it is a slap in the face to our franchise and spurs fans that this dude is the highest paid spurs play ever

Idk Forbes still did okay with White, Derozan and Lamarcus next to him even if it was just lasted one year.. Assell has a superior starting 5 next to him and still can’t produce at even a good level. The spurs really need to separate themselves from him and Keldon. They are both tanking players and need to get the off this team.

I don’t even think putting Sochan in the same crew as them is fair cause Sochan can still have a role on this team if they don’t overpay the out of him to keep him (you know PATFO will though).

[baseline bum]

this dude has basically turned into a taller and more expensive Bryn Forbes. atrocious on defense, tunnel vision on offense, cant be counted on to do anything when it matters, routinely chokes, etc. dude peaked as a rookie on defense and has gotten considerably worse every year since. now he's supposed to be our best scorer but averages 16ppg on mediocre efficiency while being a complete turnstile on D. get this bum off the team. it is a slap in the face to our franchise and spurs fans that this dude is the highest paid spurs play ever

Forbes could shoot 40% from the three. At least he did something good to make you think he could be a starter if you squinted real close from the right angle. Vassell is Forbes minus the shooting.

[z0sa]

Vassell has just dropped off markedly from last season, though it obviously wasn't a legendary effort.

Averaged 19.5ppg on 47% shooting, including 37% from a lot tougher 3's than this season, to only 15ppg on 35% 3P, and 43% overall. It's just baffling how he could have gone downhill in a hurry so fast. He should be nailing 40% of his 3s with the kinds of looks he's gotten this season and will be getting with Fox in the mix.

He's a negative asset now, which saddens me. He shouldn't be. He proved last season he has the talent to be a consistent scorer but it's just all gone by the wayside without any definable reason this season. Unbelievable, tbh. I think a move to the bench would be good for his trade value - being a piece for the future at this point. I'd rather Champagnie starting.

[Leetonidas]

we're now arguing that Forbes was a more useful player than current Vassell. Jesus christ this dude fell off hard this season

[spurraider21]

we're now arguing that Forbes was a more useful player than current Vassell. Jesus christ this dude fell off hard this season

as awful as forbes was, he was a legitimate 40% 3 point shooter and was consistent

in his years with the spurs, he shot:

32.1% (rookie, low minutes, low volume... 53 attempts on the year)
39.0%
42.6%
38.8%
41.7%

vassell's career high is 38.7% (in a season cut short, he only played 38 games), and his career average is 36.6%, which isn't even a far cry from Keldon's career average of 35.2%

obviously there's more to the game than just 3 point shooting, and unlike forbes, vassell has the ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim... but with his defense having fallen off a cliff as well, man. to be fair, as bad as vassell's defense has gotten, i dont think teams are actively hunting him the way they did forbes, so i dont think its felt as much. he still has solid length and athleticism so he's not an obvious target

[Joseph Kony]

as awful as forbes was, he was a legitimate 40% 3 point shooter and was consistent

in his years with the spurs, he shot:

32.1% (rookie, low minutes, low volume... 53 attempts on the year)
39.0%
42.6%
38.8%
41.7%

vassell's career high is 38.7% (in a season cut short, he only played 38 games), and his career average is 36.6%, which isn't even a far cry from Keldon's career average of 35.2%

obviously there's more to the game than just 3 point shooting, and unlike forbes, vassell has the ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim... but with his defense having fallen off a cliff as well, man. to be fair, as bad as vassell's defense has gotten, i dont think teams are actively hunting him the way they did forbes, so i dont think its felt as much. he still has solid length and athleticism so he's not an obvious target

[spurraider21]

anyway gimme Neal over Forbes, came up big in the postseason. monster 3 against memphis to keep us alive in that series, and even came up huge in game 3 of the 2013 finals where both he and danny popped off

if neal had the same green light forbes did (and was gifted a starting job with big minutes), he'd have outproduced him handily

[PhantomDashCam]

In 68 games last year, Vassell scored 12 points or less in 12 total games. (17.6 % of games played).

In 37 games so far this season, Vassell has scored 12 points or less in 14 games already! (32.4 % of games played!)

[NASpurs]

Is this dude still beating up women?