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    what a sad news tbh... this ing sucks, will all efforts he is puting on conditioning, stretching.. a freaking blood clot is ending his season

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    If he gets another one they will shut him down entire season again.

    A second one will warrant lifetime anti coagulation.
    At that point it's up to the spurs and his family to decide if he will continue playing.

    This should have happened to the Lakers GM tbh

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    If he gets another one they will shut him down entire season again.

    A second one will warrant lifetime anti coagulation.
    At that point it's up to the spurs and his family to decide if he will continue playing.

    This should have happened to the Lakers GM tbh
    Seems like a lot of you guys here know a decent amount about blood clots. I knew next to nothing about them until the past day or so when this all happened.

    Does anyone think Victor will release a statement or anything to the fans? Tell people how he's doing?

    Trauma
    Anatomical- such as thoracic outlet syndrome
    If confident this is provoked and the provoking situation has been alleviated can possibly get by with 3 months of anti coagulation.

    There have been protocols to allow athletes to play on AC. It's not standard, but modern anticoagulants have a short half life and can be held day of game. I know in fact several NFL players who do this (some with pretty serious clots- well there all serious but with pulmonary embolism)
    That said it's clearly non-standard and no data on if this puts them at increased risk
    Wow, NFL players are allowed to play that have have/had blood clots? Wouldn't the NFL be one of the worst sports for playing with that condition? What position/s are the players that you're referring to here?

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    I've read through this thread and through other as well, somebody talk me off the ledge here. Why/how could the Spurs be confident that he will make a full recovery, and more specifically, shouldn't be worried about long term issues? Or is this just a PR thing and that's all they can really say, and nobody truly knows? So it may be something that always hangs over his head.

    I'm obv not in the medical field, but it seems to me unless there is a clear and obvious (and fixable) cause of why it happened this time, how can anyone be sure it won't just happen again?


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    If confident this is provoked and the provoking situation has been alleviated can possibly get by with 3 months of anti coagulation.

    There have been protocols to allow athletes to play on AC. It's not standard, but modern anticoagulants have a short half life and can be held day of game. I know in fact several NFL players who do this (some with pretty serious clots- well there all serious but with pulmonary embolism)
    That said it's clearly non-standard and no data on if this puts them at increased risk
    Good thoughts on TOS. Not saying this is the cause, but to good to be aware of as we as fans try to connect the dots with what little information we get from the team.

    Venous thoracic outlet syndrome (vTOS) is a condition characterized by the compression of the subclavian vein as it exits the thoracic cavity, often at the costoclavicular space. This compression can lead to episodic venous obstruction in the upper extremity, presenting with symptoms such as edema, rubor, and functional impairment. Over time, repe ive compression and injury can result in thrombosis of the vein, a condition known as "effort thrombosis" or Paget-Schroetter syndrome.[1-3]
    The diagnosis of vTOS typically involves a combination of clinical examination and imaging studies, such as computed tomography angiography (CTA) or catheter venography, which can reveal narrowing or occlusion of the subclavian vein.[2][4] The American College of Radiology recommends catheter venography for both initial and follow-up imaging in suspected cases of vTOS.[4]
    Management of vTOS includes acute treatment of venous thromboembolism with anticoagulation and thrombolytic therapy, followed by surgical decompression. Surgical options often involve first rib resection, anterior scalenectomy, and venolysis to relieve the external compression on the vein.[1][5-6] Early diagnosis and prompt treatment are crucial for optimal outcomes, as delayed intervention can lead to long-term complications such as post-thrombotic syndrome.[3][6]

    My search from Open Evidence.

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    I've read through this thread and through other as well, somebody talk me off the ledge here. Why/how could the Spurs be confident that he will make a full recovery, and more specifically, shouldn't be worried about long term issues? Or is this just a PR thing and that's all they can really say, and nobody truly knows? So it may be something that always hangs over his head.

    I'm obv not in the medical field, but it seems to me unless there is a clear and obvious (and fixable) cause of why it happened this time, how can anyone be sure it won't just happen again?


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    Seems like a lot of you guys here know a decent amount about how to google "blood clots". I knew next to nothing about them until the past day or so when this all happened.

    Does anyone think Victor will release a statement or anything to the fans? Tell people how he's doing?



    Wow, NFL players are allowed to play that have have/had blood clots? Wouldn't the NFL be one of the worst sports for playing with that condition? What position/s are the players that you're referring to here?
    fixed.

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    I've read through this thread and through other as well, somebody talk me off the ledge here. Why/how could the Spurs be confident that he will make a full recovery, and more specifically, shouldn't be worried about long term issues? Or is this just a PR thing and that's all they can really say, and nobody truly knows? So it may be something that always hangs over his head.

    I'm obv not in the medical field, but it seems to me unless there is a clear and obvious (and fixable) cause of why it happened this time, how can anyone be sure it won't just happen again?

    The only thing that leads me to believe why the Spurs are optimistic that he won't have this happen again is through running tests they could have found out it was not a genetic related condition. If it has nothing to do with genetics than there is a high chance, he won't have this issue recur again.

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    I've read through this thread and through other as well, somebody talk me off the ledge here. Why/how could the Spurs be confident that he will make a full recovery, and more specifically, shouldn't be worried about long term issues? Or is this just a PR thing and that's all they can really say, and nobody truly knows? So it may be something that always hangs over his head.

    I'm obv not in the medical field, but it seems to me unless there is a clear and obvious (and fixable) cause of why it happened this time, how can anyone be sure it won't just happen again?


    The Spurs organization is very conservative with the information they release to the public. If they are publicly stating that Vic should have a full recovery and normal career, then it’s probably backed up by a lot of data and determinations by experts. It’s more and more clear to me that these chicken littles on here and elsewhere on the internet should just be ignored.

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    This guy is a idiot.

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    The Spurs organization is very conservative with the information they release to the public. If they are publicly stating that Vic should have a full recovery and normal career, then it’s probably backed up by a lot of data and determinations by experts. It’s more and more clear to me that these chicken littles on here and elsewhere on the internet should just be ignored.
    So, I've seen this line of thinking a lot... and I don't even necessarily disagree with it... but let's ask... why do we think the Spurs would only say this if they are confident?

    It's not like they face legal liability (or any other kind of liability) if Vic never plays another game. And the fact is, they do have an incentive to tell everyone they're confident he'll be back next year even if they aren't.

    I tend to believe the Spurs when they say this simply because I have a lifetime full of trust in them on these matters... but we shouldn't ignore that the do actually have an incentive to be overly optimistic with the public about this.

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    So, I've seen this line of thinking a lot... and I don't even necessarily disagree with it... but let's ask... why do we think the Spurs would only say this if they are confident?

    It's not like they face legal liability (or any other kind of liability) if Vic never plays another game. And the fact is, they do have an incentive to tell everyone they're confident he'll be back next year even if they aren't.

    I tend to believe the Spurs when they say this simply because I have a lifetime full of trust in them on these matters... but we shouldn't ignore that the do actually have an incentive to be overly optimistic with the public about this.
    it's not a question of motive. people are saying this because the spurs have a history of being straightforward about these matters. they're probably just literally giving us the prognosis of the doctors. but we just live in times where people question any and everything.

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    This guy is a idiot.
    does this guy cover sports?

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    How many Covid jabs did he needlessly take to appease "The Science"?

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    How many Covid jabs did he needlessly take to appease "The Science"?
    At least 10,000.

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    How many Covid jabs did he needlessly take to appease "The Science"?
    Here we go with the fkn idiots yet again.

    Hope it was sarcasm for your brain clots sake.

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    This guy is a idiot.
    God, conspiracy theorists are so 2016. Why do y’all keep falling for their .

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    There is actually an NIH study that talks about the increased risks of blood clots after having the COVID-19 Virus and the Vaccine. Essentially, it states that each individually results in an increased risk of blood clots, with the virus itself posing more risk than the vaccine, but if you've had both that results in the highest increased risk. With that said, the study also clearly states:

    Results show that the indirect benefit of preventing infection-associated thromboembolic events outweighs the direct harm if the VE and infection rate reaches certain levels. Moreover, COVID-19 vaccination may have additional benefits in preventing thromboembolic events associated with COVID-19, as a higher rate of vaccination increases the overall level of immunity in the population, reducing the spread of the virus and conferring collective protection against infection-associated thromboembolic events and other health risks associated with COVID-19.
    Here is a link to the study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11399239/

    Vaxx still better than no vaxx, tbh

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    what a sad news tbh... this ing sucks, will all efforts he is puting on conditioning, stretching.. a freaking blood clot is ending his season

    https://youtube.com/shorts/uWUuQ56M1...uCE_g1xnxr5ZJC

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    I am close to being out for the season too. Without Victor, and if Steph isn't going to get any court time, waste of my time watching this . No disrespect to De'Aaron as I haven't watched him enough yet (he is playing good, though).

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    Overly tall players being injury prone and not having long careers gets proven right again. Might as well have drafted Amen Thompson tbh. At least he’ll have a long career.
    Such a shame to say something like that, please stop thinking about the team for just 5 minutes and be respectful for the human being…

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    superdupper healthy

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    Overly tall players being injury prone and not having long careers gets proven right again. Might as well have drafted Amen Thompson tbh. At least he’ll have a long career.
    You realize that Ausar, who is not 7’5”, had the exact same DVT issue last year, right genius?

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    RIP Wemby

    He had a decent 2 year career
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