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    Garland had a broken jaw, probably couldn't even eat properly for months.
    He got back to his usual level this season because of Atkinson, aside from his injury, last year they played in a system that didn't allow him to be at his best next to Mitc .

    Devin was never that good, it's just that Spurs were horrible and he was the least horrible player.
    I just used Garland as a popular scenario. There are a whole bunch of players that go through ups and downs in their career.

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    The problem which I can see from Vassel:

    1. When he has the ball, he will dribble dribble and try to make a hero-ball difficult shot; and chances is that he never gets it done; instead, he shd have look at the matchup and find the person who has the best chance of scoring
    2. He needs a prime scorer (Wemby or Fox) who is the prime scorer for him to be effective and can sack off the defense;
    3. He doesnt pass the ball to his more recent tea-mates: Castle, Barnes, Julian; he only pass to designated players - Fox, Wemby or Paul
    4. He always try to hero-ball and try to make a statement which he failed misearably..

    Bottom line, I ing hate him on this team.

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    He’s legit the RJ24 to the big 3 of Tim, Tony, and Manu. Dude was a 4th option and got outplayed by so many people that were further down than him in the rotation. The team feasted immediately when they traded him. Hope the same happens to Devin in the offseason.

    Basically, stay away from players that wear #24.

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    Devin averaging 8ppg on 27.5% FG and 16.0% from 3 in 5 games since exstatic announced he had turned the corner

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    Devin averaging 8ppg on 27.5% FG and 16.0% from 3 in 5 games since exstatic announced he had turned the corner

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    Surely we must be approaching Vassell's one good (offensive) game per month.


    Maybe if we send all the scoring highlights from those monthly games to incompetent front offices like Chicago or Portland they'll bite on an offseason trade?

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    Devin averaging 8ppg on 27.5% FG and 16.0% from 3 in 5 games since exstatic announced he had turned the corner
    Unfortunately, there was a ditch around that corner.

    Vassell has entered Malaki Branham territory and that’s no place to be…ever.

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    At least KJ is showing up lately making his trade value > 0

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    Are we sure Vassell isn’t cooked due to the foot injuries he’s had?

    Man he looks awful out there. I don’t remember him being this slow and lethargic moving laterally.

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    Are we sure Vassell isn’t cooked due to the foot injuries he’s had?

    Man he looks awful out there. I don’t remember him being this slow and lethargic moving laterally.
    Yeah, he looks off. His balance is a little out on those jumpers. Yet we have seen more posters by him than previous years.

    I think part of it has been coaching. He isn't getting the ball on the move, eg Rip Hamilton or Klay style curls. It seems he doesn't get plays called for him. Perhaps he is a type of player that needs to.

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    The real tank commander

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    Can we still trade vassell for halliburton

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    Can we still trade vassell for halliburton
    I say trade for Primo

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    Sadly I remember creating a tread for Castle as MIP candidate prior to his injury, and everybody thought he deserved it better than Ja Morant who was expected to be great in the first place. That seemed ages ago.

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    Yeah, he looks off. His balance is a little out on those jumpers. Yet we have seen more posters by him than previous years.

    I think part of it has been coaching. He isn't getting the ball on the move, eg Rip Hamilton or Klay style curls. It seems he doesn't get plays called for him. Perhaps he is a type of player that needs to.
    I've always thought he had a slight lean on his jumper. It definitely seems more exaggerated.
    He's really struggling out there.
    If you look at his splits he had pretty decent January- but horrendous February- of the 10 games in February 8 or with Fox-

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    While OJ may have never found the real killers... the crack beat writers over at the Express-News have found Devin's real issue: he just cares too much.

    https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...l-20184578.php

    Mitch things Devin is too much of a team player:

    "And that's sometimes the problem when you got good guys and people that really want to play for their team. At some point, you just got to not give a you know what."
    But at least Devin knows that the Power of Friendship is on his side:

    "I have people like KJ (reserve forward Keldon Johnson) coming up to me and being like, 'Dev, just play your game and be you,' " Vassell said. "So, every time I get a shot, everybody wants me to finish it. If I turn it down, they tell me I'm coming out, so I got to keep shooting. That's all I can say truthfully."

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    How much do those s get paid by Wright to write that ?

    I wish Spurs had a single realistic journalist who wasn't afraid to ask some actual questions.

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    While OJ may have never found the real killers... the crack beat writers over at the Express-News have found Devin's real issue: he just cares too much.

    https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...l-20184578.php

    Mitch things Devin is too much of a team player:



    But at least Devin knows that the Power of Friendship is on his side:
    Vomitted reading this trash. Trade both these losers for Caitlin Clark

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    If i had the energy i would dig up all those posts regarding trades with gems like these;

    ”only wemby and vassell are untouchable”

    ” markannen -yes- but NOT if it includes vassell!”

    ”we have our big 3- wemby, vassell and blah blah…”

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    He needs to wisely invest his money, as I don't see him playing long in the NBA like Paul or someone. He's set for life if he doesn't blow it or get ripped off, with the latter being more likely.

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    If i had the energy i would dig up all those posts regarding trades with gems like these;

    ”only wemby and vassell are untouchable”

    ” markannen -yes- but NOT if it includes vassell!”

    ”we have our big 3- wemby, vassell and blah blah…”
    that would take some energy because i can't recall seeing all too many posts like that.

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    Yeah, he looks off. His balance is a little out on those jumpers. Yet we have seen more posters by him than previous years.

    I think part of it has been coaching. He isn't getting the ball on the move, eg Rip Hamilton or Klay style curls. It seems he doesn't get plays called for him. Perhaps he is a type of player that needs to.
    Yeah, I've been pondering the same thing lately. Maybe he'd be better in an off-ball, movement shooter role, but then again he's looked terrible in catch-and-shot situations lately.

    It sucks that it seems like his development may have plateaued. Or his foot injury is affecting his shooting/scoring ala James Anderson in the past.

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    Yeah, as soon as a I found out he had foot surgery I was worried, but some people said it's just a little foot surgery no problems he will be a good as new.......

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    Another problem with Vassell is he's on the Spurs coaching staff/development. If he were in Grizzlies, Magic type of teams (aside from the obvious top systems like Boston and OKC), I'm sure he'd be posting decent numbers.


    This is not to defend this dude. I am all out on Devin. But we should all be out on the coaching staff and player developmental altogether.

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    If i had the energy i would dig up all those posts regarding trades with gems like these;

    ”only wemby and vassell are untouchable”

    ” markannen -yes- but NOT if it includes vassell!”

    ”we have our big 3- wemby, vassell and blah blah…”
    So people aren't allowed to watch the games and change their opinions? It's asses like you on sports boards who make people afraid to give truthful opinions. Why does it matter so much to you?

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