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    Similarly, as we and many others have discussed, Trump’s comparatively modest tariffs in his first term created an infinitesimal number of new jobs, at very high cost….with the tariff income being used nearly entirely to provide relief to parties harmed by retaliation. For instance, from Wikipedia:

    China implemented retaliatory tariffs equivalent to the $34 billion tariff imposed on it by the U.S.[12] In July 2018, the Trump administration announced it would use a Great Depression-era program, the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC), to pay farmers up to $12 billion, increasing the transfers to farmers to $28 billion in May 2019.[13] The USDA estimated that aid payments cons uted more than one-third of total farm income in 2019 and 2020
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025...g-restive.html

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    https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1897290798447911137
    https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1897305215466086757

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    Our country has so many stupid people

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    Our country has so many stupid people
    True, and they split us apart and tore the country up after Trump made President.

    & dad, sweetheart; it's a stayin' split apart and tore up.

    Let us proceed...

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    https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1897290798447911137
    https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1897305215466086757
    Let's give it a good, and lengthy run before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    You can't charge us (for example) $5 per episode and we charge them $1 per episode. Sure, (them) loves it, got used to it, made a fortune with it. We should all suffer, or, be fair & square.

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    Conservatives love wage reduction via inflation and price increases. Winning!

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    Conservatives love wage reduction via inflation and price increases. Winning!
    Let's give it a good, and lengthy run before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    You can't charge us (for example) $5 per episode and we charge them $1 per episode. Sure, (them) loves it, got used to it, made a fortune with it. We should all suffer, or, be fair & square.

    Let us proceed...

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    Conservatives love wage reduction via inflation and price increases. Winning!
    Yep, this has never worked at this kind of scale. Only made things worse.

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    Yep, this has never worked at this kind of scale. Only made things worse.
    Let's give it a good, and lengthy run before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    You can't charge us (for example) $5 per episode and we charge them $1 per episode. Sure, (them) loves it, got used to it, made a fortune with it. We should all suffer, or, be fair & square.

    Let us proceed...

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    Let's give it a good, and lengthy run before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    You can't charge us (for example) $5 per episode and we charge them $1 per episode. Sure, (them) loves it, got used to it, made a fortune with it. We should all suffer, or, be fair & square.

    Let us proceed...
    You realize these tariffs are just a sales tax on the people don't you? Trump is shifting the tax burden from Elon and other bag robber barons onto us so he can cut their taxes. The bag GOP could never get a consumption tax through congress so they short-circuited congress by making tariffs the consumption tax.

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    Yep, this has never worked at this kind of scale. Only made things worse.
    It's not designed to be a trade war. It's the GOP's wet dream of a massive sales tax on the people to replace income tax on the rich. And that sales tax is going to keep going up as other nations retaliate to our nazi king's increasing tariffs.

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    Conservatives love wage reduction via inflation and price increases. Winning!
    And then tease the poors with a few hundred dollar payment like W did to go on a shopping spree to make the economy look good for a minute.

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    You realize these tariffs are just a sales tax on the people don't you? Trump is shifting the tax burden from Elon and other bag robber barons onto us so he can cut their taxes. The bag GOP could never get a consumption tax through congress so they short-circuited congress by making tariffs the consumption tax.
    You're wrong, but, you're unrelenting, bum.

    Nobody wants to have a sweetheart deal end, be it an honest mistake, or, a theft. It's human nature. Same with the Europeans having to finally come to the fore for their own defense. They've had us for over 80 years guaranteeing their very lives and sanc y. They've kept that money for their MIC because we gave them safety thru our MIC. They were supposed to be pitching in, but never have. They used those funds to prosper their country, free health care, etc while we stood guard over them charging our population for our health care.

    I pray that Trump continues to clean house and make these countries pay their way. Leave Europe, bring our troops home and let Europe create their own MIC's and all the money that entails.

    Trade must be equal. And as Trump calls it:::reciprocal:::. Trudeau calls Trump "stupid" for imposing the tariffs, but again that's because he's going to lose a bundle of money and can't face it without insulting Trump because he has been found out and held at bay. Instead of taking the news with grace, even grateful he doesn't have to pay reparations for the "theft," he lashes out. Again, it's human, but Trump must let him blow off steam.

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    And then tease the poors with a few hundred dollar payment like W did to go on a shopping spree to make the economy look good for a minute.
    A [[[few thousand dollars]]] like Trump gave us when COVID hit.

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    Trade must be equal. And as Trump calls it:::reciprocal:::. Trudeau calls Trump "stupid" for imposing the tariffs, but again that's because he's going to lose a bundle of money and can't face it without insulting Trump because he has been found out and held at bay. Instead of taking the news with grace, even grateful he doesn't have to pay reparations for the "theft," he lashes out. Again, it's human, but Trump must let him blow off steam.
    Trump's not stupid, he figured out he can use tariffs to effectively implement the mainstream GOP's wet dream of the Fair Tax, namely a giant sales tax so the people can be taxed more and the robber barons can run off with even more when they get huge tax cuts. You're paying more so Elon and the other bag billionaires can pay less. Trump's ting on your head and you're thanking him for the hat.

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    Thread hasn't ever opened a history book and is incapable of googling. "Let's try it and be blissfully and willfully ignorant about every other time it's failed and caused recessions and depressions every single time except when we were a pre-industrialized nation."

    Low education, low iq fools are what today's neo-monarchists are. They hate without cause, hurt themselves and everyone around them, then blame other people for their willful ignorance. In the internet age, it's unacceptable and irredeemable. GFY

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    Biden bros crying about theoretical inflation

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    who's out of touch with regular people now

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    https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1897290798447911137
    https://x.com/scottlincicome/status/1897305215466086757
    The only thing business hates more than regulation, taxes and tariffs is uncertainty.

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    It looks like they found a way to (at least temporarily) avoid recession:

    The Trump administration may exclude government spending from GDP, obscuring the impact of DOGE cuts

    Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said Sunday that government spending could be separated from gross domestic product reports, in response to questions about whether the spending cuts pushed by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency could possibly cause an economic downturn.

    “You know that governments historically have messed with GDP,” Lutnick said on Fox News Channel’s “Sunday Morning Futures.” “They count government spending as part of GDP. So I’m going to separate those two and make it transparent.”

    Doing so could potentially complicate or distort a fundamental measure of the U.S. economy’s health. Government spending is traditionally included in the GDP because changes in taxes, spending, deficits and regulations by the government can impact the path of overall growth. GDP reports already include extensive details on government spending, offering a level of transparency for economists.

    ...
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-gdp...4620bfd66923b2

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    The only thing business hates more than regulation, taxes and tariffs is uncertainty.
    Reciprocity will settle everybody's hash, Little v.

    Let us proceed...

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    Boiled down...

    "I'm President, and their not."

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    Thread hasn't ever opened a history book and is incapable of googling. "Let's try it and be blissfully and willfully ignorant about every other time it's failed and caused recessions and depressions every single time except when we were a pre-industrialized nation."

    Low education, low iq fools are what today's neo-monarchists are. They hate without cause, hurt themselves and everyone around them, then blame other people for their willful ignorance. In the internet age, it's unacceptable and irredeemable. GFY
    Just because something is on the Internet thru Google don't make it so/true.

    Just because something is written down in a book and published don't make it so/true.

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    Trump's not stupid, he figured out he can use tariffs to effectively implement the mainstream GOP's wet dream of the Fair Tax, namely a giant sales tax so the people can be taxed more and the robber barons can run off with even more when they get huge tax cuts. You're paying more so Elon and the other bag billionaires can pay less. Trump's ting on your head and you're thanking him for the hat.
    You're half-crazed since that Health Provider was gunned down. You thought I was siding him and took off after me with the proverbial hatchet.

    Get holt of you gd self, bum.

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