2025 NBA Draft

[Biggems]

Could Sorber be the next great big from the Hoyas? It's been a good minute since we have seen low post greatness from GTown. They came strong with Ewing, Mourning, and Mutombo.

On offense, Wemby likes to pretend he is Durant. Server has some legit go to moves in the post. Also, the NBA is allowed to play zone. Just make Sorver's defensive zone close to the basket. It would allow Wemby to attack from the weak side and block shots from the side or behind.

I believe it can work. Plus, wasn't Sorver only a freshman?. If so, he still has some growth and learning to do. Name a better organization to learn how to be a big in the NBA than the Spurs.

BTW, I would still go after JT Toppin if we draft Sorver.

[exstatic]

Could Sorber be the next great big from the Hoyas? It's been a good minute since we have seen low post greatness from GTown. They came strong with Ewing, Mourning, and Mutombo.

On offense, Wemby likes to pretend he is Durant. Server has some legit go to moves in the post. Also, the NBA is allowed to play zone. Just make Sorver's defensive zone close to the basket. It would allow Wemby to attack from the weak side and block shots from the side or behind.

I believe it can work. Plus, wasn't Sorver only a freshman?. If so, he still has some growth and learning to do. Name a better organization to learn how to be a big in the NBA than the Spurs.

BTW, I would still go after JT Toppin if we draft Sorver.

This isn’t the 90s. Bigs have to be able to space , and defend in space. The Golden Child Edey is even showing cracks. Now that teams care about games, they play him off the floor regularly by putting him in pick and roll after pick and roll until they get the switch the want, and the they attack him off the dribble. Miss me with “traditional “ bigs, please. Grab someone like Tomislav Ivisic in the second round. He blocks shots, rebounds and can shoot the 3 ball. He also won’t cost a first rounder.

[thOOdee]

I'd take McNeeley over those guys.

wouldnt kon and mcneeley be kind of redundant though?

[BatManu20]

Cooper Flagg getting used to his new digs tbh.

[Dejounte]

I fundamentally disagree that this player doesn't need to be a 3pt threat, but I appreciate your take.

I like Sorber and would take him with the ATL pick, but not to be our starting PF next to Wemby.

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/...sMade/dir/desc
^The Spurs are middle of the pack when it comes to 3 pt differential for 3pt made. Their opponent 3pt % drags down their 3pt differential which means the issue is more on how poorly we defend 3’s vs how poorly the team shoots as a whole.

meanwhile…

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/...ounds/dir/desc
^the Spurs are fifth worst in defensive rebounding differential
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/...ounds/dir/desc
^fourth worst in overall rebounding differential
10th worst in offensive rebounding differential

rebounding is a MUCH worse problem than 3 pt shooting is. Tell me your data on why this isn’t the case.

[rascal]

wouldnt kon and mcneeley be kind of redundant though?

Kon is not a SF, not big enough, McNeeley is. I wouldn't even draft Kon.

McNeeley(under rated) is better value at 16 than Kon(over rated) at 8.

[rascal]

Cooper Flagg getting used to his new digs tbh.

Flagg is going to Charlotte.

Mark Williams
Cooper Flagg
Lamelo Ball
Miles Bridges
Brandon Miller

That's a nice starting five if they can get them healthy.

[spurraider21]

I find it disturbing how much I’m agreeing with rascal about draft takes. With that said I’ve warmed up to Kon a little more than he has

[Mr. Body]

Kon is listed as 30 pounds heavier than McNeeley. One inch difference. Kon is definitely a swing/wing.

And Cooper Flagg would be trash in Charlotte because Charlotte is trash and will forever be trash until they get rid of Lamello Ball and even then will still be trash.

[rascal]

Kon is listed as 30 pounds heavier than McNeeley. One inch difference. Kon is definitely a swing/wing.

And Cooper Flagg would be trash in Charlotte because Charlotte is trash and will forever be trash until they get rid of Lamello Ball and even then will still be trash.

Have to wait for the measurements but McNeeley looks bigger than only one inch difference and a longer wingspan. I don't like Kon as a SF in the NBA, he's a guard.

[scott]

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/...sMade/dir/desc
^The Spurs are middle of the pack when it comes to 3 pt differential for 3pt made. Their opponent 3pt % drags down their 3pt differential which means the issue is more on how poorly we defend 3’s vs how poorly the team shoots as a whole.

meanwhile…

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/...ounds/dir/desc
^the Spurs are fifth worst in defensive rebounding differential
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/...ounds/dir/desc
^fourth worst in overall rebounding differential
10th worst in offensive rebounding differential

rebounding is a MUCH worse problem than 3 pt shooting is. Tell me your data on why this isn’t the case.

For starters, I don't see it as a trade-off between 3p shooting and rebounding. I don't claim that fixing one is the solution of the other. Both are important.

I posted earlier, Spurs are actually top 10 in Adjusted Reb Chance %, but they are among the worst in the league in box outs and below median in absolute rebounds/game. I don't think the solution is in getting Dennis Rodman on the team, but rather more fundemental - a dedication to box outs. You don't have to be a stellar rebounder to simply box out your man and make the rebound more available for yourself or a teammate. A 3 reb/gm swing (which is actually a 6 reb/gm improvement, because each rebound you get is also one less rebound your opponent gets and is a 2 reb swing) would take us from being 27th in rebound differential to being 2nd. The margins are that slim.

Give me a guy who's a decent rebounder (and will box out), plays D and shoots the 3 over a guy who is an elite rebounder, plays D and can't shoot. Coaching and discipline can go a very long way when it comes to rebounding. But 3p shooting requires talent that is harder to train.

That's my opinion on things.

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[benefactor]

Jesus ...I can't believe some of you still want to take a player who can't shoot.

[CGD]

Miami and Dallas doing their parts last night

[exstatic]

Miami and Dallas doing their parts last night

Plus Sacramento losing again, inching ever closer to that denial of pick to Atlanta #12 spot.

[BatManu20]

Flagg is going to Charlotte.

Mark Williams
Cooper Flagg
Lamelo Ball
Miles Bridges
Brandon Miller

That's a nice starting five if they can get them healthy.

You don't know where he's going anymore than I do. And LaMelo Ball is literally never healthy, so that won't work.

[BatManu20]

D-Rob mixing it up with the Dookies.

[rascal]

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[thOOdee]

anybody familiar with the international game, how does Zaccharie Risacher compare to Noa Essengue. Seem like they have similar build. Are their games similar?

[spurraider21]

he doesnt really compare to Risacher other than being French. they play very different. Essengue is more of a PF, like Jerami Grant or discount Giannis.

[thOOdee]

If the draft order stays as is I think the top 8 plays out like this

Jazz - Flagg
Obvious.

Wiz - Harper
Obvious.

Hornets - VJ
Equal as a prospect to Ace imo. Better fit in backcourt next to Lamelo. Plus Hornets already have a slightly better version of Ace in Brandon Millers.

Pels - Ace Bailey
Best available.

Sixers - Maluach
Embiid insurance. Sixers need a big forward but the next best one is CMB and that’s a reach at 5.

Nets - Tre Johnson
This could go a number of ways. I can see them taking Tre, Fears or Queen here. Don’t think they go with Kon as they are better of shooting for upside.

Raptors - Fears or Queen
I think the Raptors would LOVE Maluach But he’ll be gone. They have a glut of wings/forwards so they’ll take either a C or PG. Possibly Jaku but doubtful.

Spurs - Kon
I could also see CMB here tbh.

been thinking about this, and if spurs somehow have fears on the board, I don't know how you don't take him. Or better yet, shop him around for for something we need now ala 2024 dillingham package.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

I’m not sure if anyone mentioned him yet but any thoughts on CMB? I can see his combination of smarts and toughness being something the Spurs would covet if they don’t land in the top 4 or miss out on Kon.

But I’m assuming if the Spurs like him then they have to be confident in Castle’s and Sochan’s shot drastically improving in the next year or two.

[thOOdee]

my guess with cmb is peak draymond and floor dejuan blair. Both I wouldn't be devasted about, but also really doesn't excite me too much. I think question is, if even in best case scenario, would adding draymond next to wemby be the best fit. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see it. We already have sochan.