2025 NBA Draft

[John B]

As prospects,they were BPA on the Spurs board.

Primo was BPA??? Come on man. That was a big swing, and a big miss. I understand the reason (it took me months to finally reconcile with myself), but nah, Primo was NOT BPA. Missing out on obvious BPA's Sengun, Duren, even Jalen Johnson (questionable character* but obviously very talented). Spurs concept of BPA is suspect.

[scottspurs]

If the Spurs traded Vassell. Also depends on what he gets traded for, but Tre Johnson would be a wonderful pick. No offense to the Kon or die folks but Johnson is 2 or 3 levels above him as a scorer. The stats don’t show it but Tre showed some playmaking chops. He played on a terrible Texas team that he dragged to the NCAA tournament. After his teammates missed shot after shot he would go into F it I’ll do it myself mode. He actually tried to be a team guy most of the time though. Terrible Coaching. I watched every Texas game this year and I’m convinced they would have been under .500 without him. On defense Tre was basically hidden so he could conserve his energy. Energy he needed to carry the offense. He has length so I think he can be disruptive in the NBA. Needs to put on some wiry strength though.

As the team is constructed right now Kon would be the better fit between the 2 shooters but without Vassell the Spurs would need Tre’s scoring. Kon is more of a connector/glue guy. Tre is an All-star level scorer. Defenses focused on him. He was able to finish at the rim pretty well when they didn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if he led all rookies in scoring next season. If you get him to play respectful defense he could be Reggie Miller. Kon reminds me more of Eric Gordon on offense. Can shoot and uses his body well despite the lack of explosiveness. Kon is the higher IQ player. The better passer. Defensively not sure who will be better. Kon has the IQ and more bulk but Tre moves his feet better, is longer and overall the better athlete.

Im just saying don’t right off Tre Johnson and live in the Kon is the only shooter the Spurs could look for in the top 10. Both are tremendous prospects.

[scottspurs]

With Johni Broome it’s going to come down to what he measures at. If he is the listed 6’10 with shoes he will be a 10-year pro. At the very least a long term back up big that contributes to winning. I suspect he might be shorter and not have a great wingspan. If he checks in at like 6’8 or 6’9 and the athletic testing doesn’t check out. I would have serious concerns. The metrics love him though. Could be a better college player than pro for these reasons.

[John B]

If the Spurs traded Vassell. Also depends on what he gets traded for, but Tre Johnson would be a wonderful pick. No offense to the Kon or die folks but Johnson is 2 or 3 levels above him as a scorer. The stats don’t show it but Tre showed some playmaking chops. He played on a terrible Texas team that he dragged to the NCAA tournament. After his teammates missed shot after shot he would go into F it I’ll do it myself mode. He actually tried to be a team guy most of the time though. Terrible Coaching. I watched every Texas game this year and I’m convinced they would have been under .500 without him. On defense Tre was basically hidden so he could conserve his energy. Energy he needed to carry the offense. He has length so I think he can be disruptive in the NBA. Needs to put on some wiry strength though.

As the team is constructed right now Kon would be the better fit between the 2 shooters but without Vassell the Spurs would need Tre’s scoring. Kon is more of a connector/glue guy. Tre is an All-star level scorer. Defenses focused on him. He was able to finish at the rim pretty well when they didn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if he led all rookies in scoring next season. If you get him to play respectful defense he could be Reggie Miller. Kon reminds me more of Eric Gordon on offense. Can shoot and uses his body well despite the lack of explosiveness. Kon is the higher IQ player. The better passer. Defensively not sure who will be better. Kon has the IQ and more bulk but Tre moves his feet better, is longer and overall the better athlete.

Im just saying don’t right off Tre Johnson and live in the Kon is the only shooter the Spurs could look for in the top 10. Both are tremendous prospects.

I get that Tre Johnson is the better scorer, but Kon is the better fit between the two. As you said, Kon is a glue-guy. Spurs already have Wemby, Fox and Castle. You don't have room for Tre Johnson to shine like a Reggie Miller.

But again I'd secure a big bruiser to help Wemby first, before I draft a SG/SF shooter.

[scottspurs]

^ I’m down with Kneuppel, Sorber and Broome. The problem is, after picking Kneuppel at 8th, and Sorber (and Queen) are gone at 15th, Spurs missed out on the biggest bullies of this draft, and I doubt Broome is available at 38th. But yeah sure, that would be a great draft, a high bball shooter, and two big defensive bullies in the paint.

This is my worry. Queen, Sorber, Maluach (doesn’t really fit with Spurs), Fleming, Collin Murray-Boyles could all be gone by pick 15. Then what. You double down and draft Richardson or Jakucionis. Would the spurs be high on Lendeborg. Asa Newell? Reach for the next wave of bigs. Maybe Beringer the Raw French guy. Steven Adams would be nice but he can only play so many minutes these days. Spurs need a big body. To me it’s the biggest need. I love the philosophy of best player available. It’s not a bad strategy when you are a lottery team. But at some point you have to fix what needs fixing.

[John B]

This is my worry. Queen, Sorber, Maluach (doesn’t really fit with Spurs), Fleming, Collin Murray-Boyles could all be gone by pick 15. Then what. You double down and draft Richardson or Jakucionis. Would the spurs be high on Lendeborg. Asa Newell? Reach for the next wave of bigs. Maybe Beringer the Raw French guy. Steven Adams would be nice but he can only play so many minutes these days. Spurs need a big body. To me it’s the biggest need. I love the philosophy of best player available. It’s not a bad strategy when you are a lottery team. But at some point you have to fix what needs fixing.

Johni Broome could be an insurance at 15th (a stretch) if Spurs missed out on Queen, Sorber, Malauch. Getting Broome when they had a chance at Queen/Sorber/Malauch would be veryyy underwhelming, but they could get Kon or Tre Johnson at 8th. Then Boogie Fland at 2nd round. (I love this kid as backup PG at 2nd round)

[scottspurs]

Johni Broome could be an insurance at 15th (a stretch) if Spurs missed out on Queen, Sorber, Malauch. Getting Broome when they had a chance at Queen/Sorber/Malauch would be veryyy underwhelming, but they could get Kon or Tre Johnson at 8th. Then Boogie Fland at 2nd round. (I love this kid as backup PG at 2nd round)

If Broome measures at 6’10 I would be okay with it. Definitely a reach though. Something the Spurs are not afraid to do

[CorrectCrusader]

We need versatile defensive wings. That is our need

[scottspurs]

For those of us that are Team Queen. The 2 teams I worry that might pick him ahead of the Spurs are the Wizards and 76ers. He would fit really well next to Sarr in Washington. 76ers with Daryl Morey are analytics driven and the 5 players the metrics like most in the top 10 are Flagg, Queen, Knueppel, Tre Johnson and Khaman Maluach. Out of those players I think Queen fits the 76ers best.

[rjv]

This is my worry. Queen, Sorber, Maluach (doesn’t really fit with Spurs), Fleming, Collin Murray-Boyles could all be gone by pick 15. Then what. You double down and draft Richardson or Jakucionis. Would the spurs be high on Lendeborg. Asa Newell? Reach for the next wave of bigs. Maybe Beringer the Raw French guy. Steven Adams would be nice but he can only play so many minutes these days. Spurs need a big body. To me it’s the biggest need. I love the philosophy of best player available. It’s not a bad strategy when you are a lottery team. But at some point you have to fix what needs fixing.

Still a chance Hawks pick falls to 12th. If ATL loses to the Heat and the Mavs beat Memphis, then Hawks and Grizzlies flip a coin and the winner secures the 12th spot.

[John B]

For those of us that are Team Queen. The 2 teams I worry that might pick him ahead of the Spurs are the Wizards and 76ers. He would fit really well next to Sarr in Washington. 76ers with Daryl Morey are analytics driven and the 5 players the metrics like most in the top 10 are Flagg, Queen, Knueppel, Tre Johnson and Khaman Maluach. Out of those players I think Queen fits the 76ers best.

Man, Sarr and Queen would be crazy. It's what I want the Spurs to rather have, Wemby and Queen.

[John B]

How about Boogie Fland for Spurs' 2nd round pick? He'll make you forget Dilly if you haven't so.

[jjspur]

After the combine , I think Broome goes top 20. Some team will scoop him up as their backup center.

[mo7888]

How about Boogie Fland for Spurs' 2nd round pick? He'll make you forget Dilly if you haven't so.

It wouldn't be a bad pick there. It just depends if we move one of our higher picks or prefer a draft and stash type.

[Guru of Nothing]

Am I the only one out on Queen?

It's cherry picking, but I can't get past a 22 game stretch of 0-9 from three. Can someone paint me a rosy, yet plausible outcome for Queen playing alongside Wemby, Fox, and Castle?

[Biggems]

Sorber, Broome, Yasebule... Username checks out.

What does that mean?

[Biggems]

Am I the only one out on Queen?

It's cherry picking, but I can't get past a 22 game stretch of 0-9 from three. Can someone paint me a rosy, yet plausible outcome for Queen playing alongside Wemby, Fox, and Castle?

I cannot

[CGD]

Am I the only one out on Queen?

It's cherry picking, but I can't get past a 22 game stretch of 0-9 from three. Can someone paint me a rosy, yet plausible outcome for Queen playing alongside Wemby, Fox, and Castle?

I think it’s just a few loud Queen enthusiasts. He’d be a terrible pick with 8 in my view.

[John B]

Am I the only one out on Queen?

It's cherry picking, but I can't get past a 22 game stretch of 0-9 from three. Can someone paint me a rosy, yet plausible outcome for Queen playing alongside Wemby, Fox, and Castle?

It's not like you want him taking the 3's, but he won't be shy. Queen is there to flatten the ground for Wemby.

Dude is a bully in the middle, will command double-team. Guess who's there lurking around?

Wemby can be the most opportunistic player in the NBA ever. The guy is 7'5 with plenty of skills, except backing down his defender. You make somebody else do that at the post, and make it easier for Wemby to score. His body and knees would like not having to push people.

[CGD]

I get that Tre Johnson is the better scorer, but Kon is the better fit between the two. As you said, Kon is a glue-guy. Spurs already have Wemby, Fox and Castle. You don't have room for Tre Johnson to shine like a Reggie Miller.

But again I'd secure a big bruiser to help Wemby first, before I draft a SG/SF shooter.

What I like about drafting Tre Johnson is that it’s like resetting the Vassell contract. Frees you up to move Devin while adding a nice bench gunner in Tre, which I think is where most of us see Devs future on the Spurs if he stays. Why not do it for cheaper?

[LeBowen]

What I like about drafting Tre Johnson is that it’s like resetting the Vassell contract. Frees you up to move Devin while adding a nice bench gunner in Tre, which I think is where most of us see Devs future on the Spurs if he stays. Why not do it for cheaper?

To reset Devin's contract we'd need to move him.
Went over it a couple of times, but I don't see a team that would want him and has the return Spurs would want.
The only way would be to trade him to a tanking team. But then again, would they want to take on his contract?

[R. DeMurre]

Interesting article on The Athletic site today about OKC and their use of Holmgren and Hartenstein. Here are a few sentences from it:

The Holmgren and Hartenstein twin-tower combination outscored opponents by 96 points in their 316 minutes together. It had an offensive rating of 122.9 and a defensive rating of 109.4, both impressive.
It is, unsurprisingly, the best rebounding combination (77.4 percent rebound rate) of any of their top-50 most used two-man groups. They’ve walled off the basket. Daigneault called Holmgren and Hartenstein “easily” two of the league’s top-10 rim protectors. But it’s the other side that has him encouraged.
“The offensive flow that we’ve been able to maintain with two seven-footers on the floor (is key),” Daigneault said. “It’s something that always concerns you when you go super big. But I think it speaks to how skilled those guys are. They’re both in their own way very dynamic.”

[Guru of Nothing]

What does that mean?

As in, Biggems likes big players.

[CGD]

To reset Devin's contract we'd need to move him.
Went over it a couple of times, but I don't see a team that would want him and has the return Spurs would want.
The only way would be to trade him to a tanking team. But then again, would they want to take on his contract?

I think the Devin market will be more robust than we think on this forum. He’d be perfect on an emerging team like Orlando for example. I can also see west playoff teams having interest (eg Warriors), but not sure the Spurs would be willing to send him to a rival.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Am I the only one out on Queen?

It's cherry picking, but I can't get past a 22 game stretch of 0-9 from three. Can someone paint me a rosy, yet plausible outcome for Queen playing alongside Wemby, Fox, and Castle?

Why, can’t you imagine Queen playing next to Wemby and running around guarding the Tatums and Durants? Or packing the paint offensively and reducing your actual franchise center to a Myles Turner role?

Oh you said rosy..

It’s just that some people still live in the past. Can’t imagine anyone watching even these last play in games and thinking hmmm we must have less shooting and spacing.