if theyre going to make Fox/Castle backcourt work... Bailey is a big step in that direction
Depends on who's still on the board. I don't think the FO is as against playing Castle at SF as some, so the two-guards in that range should still be options. Or maybe they go with a forward. Castle's presence shouldn't affect their board in any way.
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."
F. Scott Fitzgerald
At 4 you probably take Edgecombe or possibly trade back. Somehow people are forgetting that Fox is going to be 28 next year. He's not even so important that you don't draft good guards anyway. Bailey is not terribly interesting to me. If they can get Edgecombe, Knueppel, Johnson, or even Jakucionas out of this draft that's good for me.
Sure, if one of the ideas has any merit whatsoever.
Like Bruno Cabloco? Two years away from two years away?
I am not even in the top 50% of amateur talent evaluators on this website (we have some great ones here)... but my subpar evaluation skills are not interested in another guy who's highlight video is a bunch of missed shots but "you just have to really see the game beyond that!"
No mas Sochanes
You do realize that what you said is the exact opposite of the quote? You determine if there's any merit by actually entertaining both opposed views.
It’s a giant dump of a huge amount of footage, 3 or 4 hours. 20 minute highlight videos don’t show a real picture.
Does his .261 3P% show a real picture?
Depends on his FT%. J Fears is shooting not much better than that, but shoots 85% FTs on 6 attempts. He started at OU at 17, running the show for his SEC team, and probably has to create his own looks.
thats the type of player i'd like to take second round swings on though. get them on 2-way contracts so they're not immediately getting a guaranteed multiyear deal and taking a roster spot. if they havent proven enough, lock them into a second year on a 2-way like we did with barlow.
if it doesnt work out, oh well it was a SRP and never occupied a true roster spot. worthwhile gamble.
what i hate is taking "two year away" players with first round picks like Salaun last year would have been
Yep, it's a good thing there are no players with good FT%s who are bad 3P shooters.
On the one hand, we should keep Victor Wembanyama. On the other, we should throw him off a bridge.
There, now you're Nico Harrison.
The guy who commented about the video containing a bunch of missed layups wasn’t even being truthful about that. This sounds like a case of he said, she said type thing. I say try dedicating time to it and ignore what sparked this conversation in the first place. A lot of people want to say something without putting any effort in. They saw a couple missed layups and rationalized them, a classic case of cognitive dissonance.
Fair enough... but my (admittedly less educated) position is that I don't want a guy who can't put the ball in the bucket efficiently but who "impacts the game in other ways". I know these guys can sometimes add value... I'm just fatigued on them as Spurs.
There is substance behind that argument. As with everything, however, it would be way better if stats were provided with full context— volume, monthly splits to show growth or regression, comparisons, etc. Being told he shoots 31% at the 3 pt line isn’t enough for me, especially if the player has a convincing shooting form. I don’t like taking things at face value.
No...I'm just more intellectually curious than you... It's ok though...don't ever change..
It is getting y in here
After several months away from the forum, it is a pleasure to return for one of the best moments of the year with the draft.
It is also a pleasure to read your opinions on the different prospects.
I looked a little more this next draft class and based on the spurs weaknesses : the rebound, the defense, the shoot without forgetting the talent, I made the following board:
1- flagg ( no explanation needed)
2- harper ( this is a draft that seems to be two heads)
3- bailey ( if you go up without having flagg, it’s the best fit for me. He can do everything, shoot, take some bounce, counter ...you have to work on his IQ but I believe in it, he has a lot of natural qualities)
4- vj edgecomb ( most complete at this stage)
5- tre johnson- big shooter, a lot of things to learn yet but he can become a killer.
6- maluach- my number one choice if we stay in 8, it’s not sexy but he will contribute enormously in defense. We should not underestimate the contribution of a big back up who would play 10-15 minutes behind Victor and maybe 5-10 minutes at his side. Overall no rookie will play 30 minutes next year with our team except if we draft very high.
7- derik queen- the fit does not seem obvious because it appears more like an offensive prospect but the potential is great and it would bring physical density to the team.
8- I had trouble finding an 8th convincing player, so I’m ready to reach on Sorber if the injury is resolved. Interior complete and strong defensively not to mention its interesting pass game
overall the shooting potential of these bigs seems interesting, they are all not bad at free throws and a shoot could be developed for them.
Then it’s more complicated, I have a band with Demin, Knueppel, CMB, Jakucionis Newell and others. I need to think about how to classify them.
Agree with the top 5.
I see the logic going big with the 8th pick and would rather see that than Kneuppel, Demin, Kasparas, then go Flemming or McNeeley with the Atlanta pick. I would rather even see both Flemming(can play at SF or PF) and McNeeley(true SF size) than any of those guards. Spurs are deep at guard(and not likely to trade Vassell) and unless you get into the top 4 for those top two guard prospects fill out the other weaker positions of need with the draft.
Only guards I want to see drafted are Harper at 2 or Edgecombe at 4 because of their high upside if the Spurs get into the top 4.
Again the clear consensus top 4 but no consensus 5-14+ is nice for the Spurs sitting at 8 and 14. Lots of players that have been ranked as high as 5-6 will be around at 8-14 (Jaku, Knoeppel, Demin, Johnson, McNeeley to name a few).
Why do you have Tre top 5 when you have Kon so low? Kon's got no vertical pop but Tre's is nothing to write home about - 7 dunks on the year, can't rebound for , can't generate turnovers to save his life suggests low functional athleticism, and he can't play 3. I don't have an issue with your logic of going big and leaning into athleticism and defense, but it seems to be inconsistent to have such a gap between Tre and Kon.
Also have you seen Adou Thiero? Wanted to get your thoughts on him as someone who values high level athleticism with size.
I disagree we are deep at guard. We have lots of guards... but only two of them are good.
One is black, the other is white. It’s really that simple for rascal.
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