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    Castle has had a slightly better rookie campaign than Jimmy Butler did, especially as a scorer.

    It took Butler until year 3 to become a full-time starter. Granted, Thibs was the coach and the Bulls were good. Like 62-20 good.
    If Castle continues to improve, becoming a player of Butler's caliber is his ceiling. Who would ask for more than that?
    I think Butler is his 85% outcome. His absolute 99% outcome ceiling is SGA.

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    Castle has had a slightly better rookie campaign than Jimmy Butler did, especially as a scorer.

    It took Butler until year 3 to become a full-time starter. Granted, Thibs was the coach and the Bulls were good. Like 62-20 good.
    If Castle continues to improve, becoming a player of Butler's caliber is his ceiling. Who would ask for more than that?
    You do know Jimmy averaged 2.6ppg his rookie year, right? Steph had a way better rookie year. Jimmy was also 22 his rookie year, so Steph still has 2-3 seasons (age wise) before even getting to Jimmy's first good season at the age of 23.
    The 62-20 season was the year before Jimmy arrived and Jimmy's rookie year is the year that Derrick had that horrific injury in the playoffs, so really the Bulls teams Jimmy was on were good (his rookie year Bulls team was really good, but he didn't play much), but not great (They won 50 [this was the lockout season], 45, 48 games his first three seasons).

    Like Exstatic said in his reply, his absolute ceiling is higher, but has about 85% outcome as a Jimmy Butler type of ceiling (I agree with this).

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    ROY announcement tonight.

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    Stephon got this in the bag.

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    B2B ROY for the Spurs baby!

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    You do know Jimmy averaged 2.6ppg his rookie year, right? Steph had a way better rookie year. Jimmy was also 22 his rookie year, so Steph still has 2-3 seasons (age wise) before even getting to Jimmy's first good season at the age of 23.
    The 62-20 season was the year before Jimmy arrived and Jimmy's rookie year is the year that Derrick had that horrific injury in the playoffs, so really the Bulls teams Jimmy was on were good (his rookie year Bulls team was really good, but he didn't play much), but not great (They won 50 [this was the lockout season], 45, 48 games his first three seasons).

    Like Exstatic said in his reply, his absolute ceiling is higher, but has about 85% outcome as a Jimmy Butler type of ceiling (I agree with this).
    Thanks for the details exstatic and Ice009 I'm in now way trying to sell our boy short. It just feels like he's getting a lot of niggling criticism here and trying to put his ceiling in some perspective. Jimmy Butler without the prima donna-ness to SGA is a dream outcome. So happy for him and his family tonight!

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    25th percentile - Michael Carter Williams
    50th percentile - Holiday
    85th percentile - Butler
    99th percentile - SGA

    Seems about right

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    Almost time.

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    CASTLE!!!

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    bang!

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    I hope we find out the clown that rated Castle third.

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    Congrats to the Rook. Weak year for the race but they still got it right. Well-deserved.

    First b2b winner since Wiggins & KAT won it in 2015-16 with the T-Wolves. Only the 3rd ever pair to win the award b2b and only the 2nd time in over 50 years.

    Spurs also become the only NBA franchise to have 4 ROY winners.

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    Proud of our young guy!!! He quickly became my favorite player on the roster. I look forward to next season and seeing him continue to hopefully get better.

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    Congrats castle for winning ROTY. Well deserved.

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    We. Are. Stacked.

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    If we somehow win the lottery we will have 3 straight ROTY winners.

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