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    If I'm castle I am right where I want to be surrounded by greatness in Admiral, TD and Wemby. Past legacy and future promise.

    Spurs veteran pedigree at free consultation for a guy who is smart enough to know the value of that and who is determined enough to make great use of it.

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    Timmy rocking the $19.95 TeePublic Big Foot tee
    Meanwhile DRob rocking the Mexican guayabera!

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    Castle was not thought of as a “high ceiling” prospect… that’s revisionist history tbh
    Totally agree.
    I said he had/has a higher ceiling than Risacher, not that either was seen as having a particularly high one.
    I think many believed that before the draft as well with shooting being the obvious swing skill.
    Shooting remains the question mark but I think most of us have raised our perception of his ceiling considerable.

    I wonder what the Spurs thought.

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    In the zoomed in shot in the press conference, Duncan looks his 6'11'' in shoes and not like he shrunk 2-4 inches, as people are joking on social media. I always thought Robinson looked more than two inches taller than him though, but either way there's no chance Wembanyama is "only" 7'4.5''ish in shoes.

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    Man Big Dave won the genetic lottery. Dude hasn’t aged. Meanwhile poor Timmy…

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    Wemby is easily 7'6. He is towering over the Admiral

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    Congrats to Castle, a well-deserved recognition on an amazing rookie season. That All-Star weekend was special, I still wish he would've won the Dunk Contest.

    On a separate note - remember when the usual Spurstalk suspects were B&M' about how the Spurs couldn't draft well anymore, and what was the use of getting high draft picks if they were gonna be wasted? Good times...

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    Congrats to Castle, a well-deserved recognition on an amazing rookie season. That All-Star weekend was special, I still wish he would've won the Dunk Contest.

    On a separate note - remember when the usual Spurstalk suspects were B&M' about how the Spurs couldn't draft well anymore, and what was the use of getting high draft picks if they were gonna be wasted? Good times...
    I mean, Wemby was a no brainer obviously. Caste was a good pick, sure. But Wesley/Branham arent looking like much of anything (Wesley I still have hope for), Sochan hasnt really improved much since being drafed, Vassell has regressed and let's not forget the ing Josh Primo pick i'm not letting them off the hook for drafting the obvious generational prospect and Castle when most of their picks in the Wright era have been meh to downright terrible

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    I mean, Wemby was a no brainer obviously. Caste was a good pick, sure. But Wesley/Branham arent looking like much of anything (Wesley I still have hope for), Sochan hasnt really improved much since being drafed, Vassell has regressed and let's not forget the ing Josh Primo pick i'm not letting them off the hook for drafting the obvious generational prospect and Castle when most of their picks in the Wright era have been meh to downright terrible
    I'll never understand the Primo pick bashing. How the is the organization expected to rote out or predict sexually deviant and silent-predatory players before they choose from the stack of 18-year-old prospects? There were no previous incidents, nor signs, that anyone heard or saw.

    How is this not a victim-blaming rhethoric to the Spurs? It'd be like holding the Hayward trade against the Celtics for not foreseeing his leg blowing into pieces his first game on the team. Just completely hypocritical and trying to ascribe your own prerrogatives and narratives (that he Sucks And Would Have Always Sucked) to a situation that had nothing to do with talent.

    Like sure, he didn't look like a worldbeater in his games with us, but NBA history is littered with players who had underwhelming rookie seasons then grew into their talent or elevated their game. There is absolutely no proof that Primo wouldn't have become another of those, and if nothing else, a serviceable role-player, which is not a bad outcome for a 12th pick.

    Seriously, break it down for me, and in the meantime tell me about this Sexual Predator Detector device of yours. You'd do well to sell that and make some $$$ tbh....

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    Congrats to Castle, a well-deserved recognition on an amazing rookie season. That All-Star weekend was special, I still wish he would've won the Dunk Contest.

    On a separate note - remember when the usual Spurstalk suspects were B&M' about how the Spurs couldn't draft well anymore, and what was the use of getting high draft picks if they were gonna be wasted? Good times...
    I mean, they're still this way.

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    I mean, they're still this way.
    The old adage remains forever true; there is no worse blind man...

    I still like to bring it up, though, because the Spurstalk Overton window is such that these very important and positive moves/decisions get completely overlooked or taken for granted most of the time.

    It's not about hitting all the shots you take - but you do need to hit on the big ones. I'm excited to see what they do this upcoming draft.

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    The old adage remains forever true; there is no worse blind man...

    I still like to bring it up, though, because the Spurstalk Overton window is such that these very important and positive moves/decisions get completely overlooked or taken for granted most of the time.

    It's not about hitting all the shots you take - but you do need to hit on the big ones. I'm excited to see what they do this upcoming draft.
    Just recently people were ing and moaning about how awful things were until it was pointed out that the Spurs were a play-in team until Wemby went down, that they drafted the ROY, and that they did what everyone was begging them to do in acquire a good veteran talent. And they got that good veteran talent in Fox for nearly nothing.

    People here just like to whine. But they're whining for each other. It's a club.

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    I'll never understand the Primo pick bashing. How the is the organization expected to rote out or predict sexually deviant and silent-predatory players before they choose from the stack of 18-year-old prospects? There were no previous incidents, nor signs, that anyone heard or saw.

    How is this not a victim-blaming rhethoric to the Spurs? It'd be like holding the Hayward trade against the Celtics for not foreseeing his leg blowing into pieces his first game on the team. Just completely hypocritical and trying to ascribe your own prerrogatives and narratives (that he Sucks And Would Have Always Sucked) to a situation that had nothing to do with talent.

    Like sure, he didn't look like a worldbeater in his games with us, but NBA history is littered with players who had underwhelming rookie seasons then grew into their talent or elevated their game. There is absolutely no proof that Primo wouldn't have become another of those, and if nothing else, a serviceable role-player, which is not a bad outcome for a 12th pick.

    Seriously, break it down for me, and in the meantime tell me about this Sexual Predator Detector device of yours. You'd do well to sell that and make some $$$ tbh....
    There is proof, namely that he never made it. The Clippers jumped on signing him after his suspension was up and he never could hack it. The Primo pick wasn't a up because he became a sex criminal, it was a up because he was a complete scrub drafted in the lottery.

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    There is proof, namely that he never made it. The Clippers jumped on signing him after his suspension was up and he never could hack it. The Primo pick wasn't a up because he became a sex criminal, it was a up because he was a complete scrub drafted in the lottery.
    I think that’s some revisionist history to fit a narrative. Wouldn’t call him a scrub. He actually started that last season pretty well, and it wasn’t like the Clips (or any other team) pounced to get him. It took time. The Spurs were also marketing him aggressively.

    https://www.nba.com/watch/video/josh...a-city-thunder

    The big blunder though was how the a team that prides itself on picking winners and losers on character could miss so badly in that area. Honestly, I also kinda think if it was another team they would have looked the other way.

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    Just recently people were ing and moaning about how awful things were until it was pointed out that the Spurs were a play-in team until Wemby went down, that they drafted the ROY, and that they did what everyone was begging them to do in acquire a good veteran talent. And they got that good veteran talent in Fox for nearly nothing.

    People here just like to whine. But they're whining for each other. It's a club.
    Yup, I think there is a lot to be excited about.

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    The primo pick was a shock then as he was mocked as a high second rounder, low 20s for the optimistic ones. He simply isn’t that good, and everything since has proved that. The spurs somehow also extended him despite all the red flags and then somehow cut him a few days later. I’m sure that wasn’t brought to managements attention in those few days so the FO was definitely thinking the issue will just go away.

    I have no issues with the Branham and Wesley picks, not sure what people are expecting out of high mid 20s picks.

    Sochan and Vassell showed good promise early and just didn’t improve at all. That has all the signs of bad development. I still think they could be decently good players in the right roles, but they have no roles, or have roles that they can’t fill. It sure what the organization is thinking about those. Sochan is a case of PATFO outsmarting himself, and Vassell is just the wrong player in the wrong environment. You out him in a situation where he plays proper ball or sit his ass down then he can become a decent player, instead you got him in there thinking he’s the reincarnation of Kobe Bryant, jacking up these terrible low efficiency shots and expecting them to go in, play no defence and just put blinders on when he drives and that’s what you get. A player with promise having poor habits and doesn’t know how to play proper ball. He’s like one of those smart kids who grew up in bad environments with no guidance, and grew up to be a mastermind criminal.

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    Wemby looks about 7 foot ing 10 standing next to TD and Dave lol.

    I’ve always thought he was at least 7’5 barefoot but he might be closer to 7’6 lol.

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    I think that’s some revisionist history to fit a narrative. Wouldn’t call him a scrub. He actually started that last season pretty well, and it wasn’t like the Clips (or any other team) pounced to get him. It took time.
    in 4 games he was averaging 7/3/4.5 on 34.6% shooting. he was awful.

    The Spurs were also marketing him aggressively.
    thats because they were re ed and thought he was the face of the franchise for some reason that never made sense

    this was a preseason game

    The big blunder though was how the a team that prides itself on picking winners and losers on character could miss so badly in that area. Honestly, I also kinda think if it was another team they would have looked the other way.
    thats a blunder too, but he was also a subpar prospect who had no business being picked that guy... good character or not

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    Primo was not just the worst pick the Spurs ever made, he could be the worst pick anyone has ever made. He wasn't projected to go high. The Spurs only picked him because they worked him out. The Spurs could have traded down twice and still gotten him. That is all before addressing his character issues and lack of NBA talent.

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    I'll never understand the Primo pick bashing. How the is the organization expected to rote out or predict sexually deviant and silent-predatory players before they choose from the stack of 18-year-old prospects? There were no previous incidents, nor signs, that anyone heard or saw.

    How is this not a victim-blaming rhethoric to the Spurs? It'd be like holding the Hayward trade against the Celtics for not foreseeing his leg blowing into pieces his first game on the team. Just completely hypocritical and trying to ascribe your own prerrogatives and narratives (that he Sucks And Would Have Always Sucked) to a situation that had nothing to do with talent.

    Like sure, he didn't look like a worldbeater in his games with us, but NBA history is littered with players who had underwhelming rookie seasons then grew into their talent or elevated their game. There is absolutely no proof that Primo wouldn't have become another of those, and if nothing else, a serviceable role-player, which is not a bad outcome for a 12th pick.

    Seriously, break it down for me, and in the meantime tell me about this Sexual Predator Detector device of yours. You'd do well to sell that and make some $$$ tbh....
    except that he's out of the league and his game never went nowhere, while players drafted after him became All-Stars

    Just recently people were ing and moaning about how awful things were until it was pointed out that the Spurs were a play-in team until Wemby went down, that they drafted the ROY, and that they did what everyone was begging them to do in acquire a good veteran talent. And they got that good veteran talent in Fox for nearly nothing.

    People here just like to whine. But they're whining for each other. It's a club.
    and yet you're still here ing and moaning like the you are

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    It's 5 if you count Swen Nater in 1974.

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    Duncan has definitely shrunk a bit since retirement, tbh..Normal process, but it seems more accelerated than with D-Rob who is 11 years older

    DRob is 7’1 and 2 inches taller than Timmy. It looks about right. Plus Timmy tends to hunch a bit, unlike DRob who stands like a true military guy.

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    Duncans hands look massive compared to Davids.

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    If Timmy had that haircut in his playing days he'd be talked about so much more by the media. To his dislike, surely.

    Still, I hate it that his legacy takes a hit because of his lowkey personality. Jokic will be the same after he retires and disappears.

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