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"It was a good decision because that was the decision they made" is definitionally sniffer. You're better than this.
my expectations are irrelevant, but ownership and leadership’s are not. This team is never going to return to excellence by happenstance and surprise. It will only come when those are the expectations and moves are made in order to meet those expectations. A phrase I use in my organization: “excellence is when we no longer accept that which we do not expect”
"It was a good decision because that was the decision they made" is definitionally sniffer. You're better than this.
Stopped reading after this. Well, I didn't, but I should have. Do you think that the team is just gonna wake up one day and be a contender?
maybe that’s what happened in 1997 and the organization is effectively telling on itself
That’s an easy one. Wemby and Fox were both on the shelf.
I have expectations. They need to make the playoffs and gain experience playing in the playoffs next year. I don't think they should be a contender. I also(probably delusionally) want/expect them to clear some of our roster dead weight and get serious about finding role players.
What is the ST consensus on this? Playoffs or GTFO? I think it's kinda fair, imo.
No, they weren't. They played. Before Wemby went down, they were consistently losing games when many had expected them to make the play in. And that's to say nothing of the 4 months of HC Mitch they got with Wemby.
So if Wemby or Castle or Fox go down in 25-26 (dear god I hope not), does that mean Mitch gets another year long free pass?
We Tanking for the 2026 top 3 draft picks.
We've got 20131 penciled in as the year finally gets real
Pop could be in a wheelchair and be using an oxygen mask and still be running the team - from the old folks home. (takes off his oxygen mask and yells play some defense ..I need some nasty)
They would have made the play in with just Wemby staying healthy after the Nico show and Sacto getting fleeced. Once Wemby went down, they were actively trying to lose games, and they still finished just 5 games behind Dallas.
That pick is now gone, and that Meme has run it’s course.
that’s pretty much where I am. Top 8 in the west at a minimum, but preferably top 6. Not expecting a top 4 team. DET’s leap is a good expectation IMO. Houston’s might be asking too much though it’s not like there was a huge delta between the 2 seed and the 8 seed
DET is a good comp for expectation. Some people are just going to throw shade because that's how their personalities are built.
Mitch may not be the answer but he's a choice that brings familiarity and continuity. He seems to be a solid representation of the organization overall.
Good luck to Coach Johnson
Yeah, this year was kind of OKC, then everyone else.
Awful news. Very disappointing.
Well, looks like the theory that the Spurs went interim with Mitch because they wouldn't need to take him long term is incorrect.
We ed.
Man, I had a bunch of posts quoted, but don't even want to reply to them anymore. I was not expecting this hire to be announced so soon after Pop's announcement that he is stepping down.
I will say, though, what about bringing in a defensive minded assistant like Mike Brown (would he be willing to be an assistant again?). Spurs need high level assistants. This is a must IMO. Maybe even a former player that has respect around the league as an assistant coach too. Sort of like with the Warriors having Jerry Stackhouse and Sam Cassell at Boston.
Also, here is another angle - Maybe the Spurs did enquire with other head coaches - What if some of those guys turned the Spurs down? Maybe they did talk to Jenkins or some of those other guys and they didn't want to come because of the pressure of expectations, or maybe they didn't feel they'd have full control to coach their way with Pop as President of Basketball Operations? Maybe the did look into it. Maybe one of two of them were interested, but they didn't offer them enough money?
Budenholzer, I am sure won't take another job if he's getting 10M a year from Phoenix to sit out and not coach. If he takes a job for less money, he loses all the Phoenix money. He'd have to be getting paid close to the 10M and go to a situation he likes, otherwise, I doubt he wants to give up any of that money. If the Spurs actually did want him, it's going to be tough to hire him in the next 4 years if the offer isn't for 10M a season, which I don't see the Spurs ever paying while also paying Pop his HC money still. I knew Bud was a long shot due to the money he's owed as I was talking to Exstatic about this within the past week. Maybe they did offer him 5M and year and he said no as he'd be taking a 50% pay cut losing the money Phoenix still owes him. Someone said Monty Williams is coaching his son's team in SA for free as he'd lose all the money the Pistons owe him if he takes another HC job for less money elsewhere.
Anyway, I did read articles about Mitch towards the end of last season that I were written at the start of last season when he first took over an interim HC. They were saying that anyone that's ever been around him talks about how high level his BBIQ is. Back in college the players (I can't remember who, but a couple of them made the NBA - I just looked it up and Brook & Robin Lopez and Landry Fields were at Stanford at the time Mitch played) used to call him "The Maestro," so maybe they wanted to give him a shot first if Victor has signed off on him and the other current players like him. They possibly view this as a Riley and Spoelstra type move giving the young guy they believe in the chance.
Btw, what year did Mitch join the Spurs? Has he been around at least one or two good Spurs teams that had TD/Kawhi still playing?
Last edited by Ice009; 05-02-2025 at 03:12 PM.
They were 5-8 in the month leading up to Wemby's injury and had a considerably difficult SOS for the last half of the season. But glad to see you acknowledge the reality that Wemby and Fox did, in fact, play.
Oh. Ok!
We are a joke of an organization who isn’t serious about winning. We passed up actual proven winning candidates and instead of looking outside to winning organizations with different ideas and viewpoints, we hired internally in a team that hasn’t had a winning record in 7 years.
Idgaf what any sniffers say, this is absolute bull and a slap in the face to the fans
T1
OKC
MIN
HOU
T2
GSW
LAC
DEN
LAL
T3
MEM
SAC
I'd say top-6 should be the expectation. If they can't beat out at least LAC/LAL in T2, given their anticipated decline, then we got problems.
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