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Fleming at 14 and Kneupel or Maluach at 8. OKC with two 7 footers showing how its done. They will win the nba chamo despite being down 2-1 now
dude couldnt even start for his own college team
Fleming at 14 and Kneupel or Maluach at 8. OKC with two 7 footers showing how its done. They will win the nba chamo despite being down 2-1 now
Jase gives so much Spurs vibes and complements both Fox and Castle really well, maybe even Wesley if they give him another chance.
Fox/ Jase
Castle/ Wesley
also insurance if either Fox or Castle don’t work out or get injured long term. He’s mentioned Fox as one of the guys he models his game after, btw.
Although I think Queen is another top 5 talent, I think Spurs may pass on him. He keeps stating in his interviews he wants to be the best and I think his mindset is that he needs shots on offense in order to be the best. If he keeps his ego in check, then he’s an absolute yes. But I think he has aspirations to become the next Embiid, or a guy who wants a team to build around him.
Other guys besides Jase who I think will embrace Spurs Culture: Sorber, Kon, Tre Johnson, Egor Demin
I'm not quite that high on Queen, although I do like him and have him top 10, so he'd be in discussion at #8, but do do agree on Jase's fit. I also think he's got a pretty high ceiling.
Better prospect at time of draft? (ignore subsequent development, or lack thereof)
Carter Bryant:
Age 19.6 @ draft, 6'8", 7' wingspan
Per 100: 19 points / 12 reb / 2.9 ast
AST:TO 1
Athleticism indicators: 17 dunks in 700 minutes, OREB% 5.3, BLK% 5.8, STL% 2.8
Shooting indicators: 37% on on 8.4 3PA/100, 70% FT, 32% midrange
Jeremy Sochan:
Age 19.0 @ draft, 6'8", 7' wingspan
Per 100: 21 points / 15 reb / 4 ast
AST:TO 1.1
Athleticism indicators: 15 dunks in 750 minutes, OREB% 8.9, BLK% 3.2, STL% 2.9
Shooting indicators: 30% on on 6.3 3PA/100, 59% FT, 40% midrange
To me, there are a couple ways to look at this:
1. Since both guys are too small to play full time 4 and are more 3/4 hybrids, Bryant's better shooting signal gives him a better chance to transition to NBA wing full time and become a useful player in a playoff rotation
2. Sochan was taken 9 and was mocked mid-late lottery frequently so while he was a reach, he wasn't a major one. If you consider Sochan a reasonable pick at 9, there's no reason to think that 8 is too early to draft Bryant
3. That being said, there's no guarantee that Bryant develops any better than Sochan - he puts up worse rate-adjusted counting stats and plays with arguably less physicality with a similar AST:TO. Their athleticism indicators are fairly similar. His entire appeal is that he has a stronger shooting signal and so you are leveraging virtually the entirety of his appeal on a guy who also shoots 70% from the line
I'm not in love with him at 8, but a Jeremy Sochan who can hit 3s is probably one of the lowest friction archetypes you can draft - there's no limit to the number of OG/Toumani/Pat Williams types a team can have, as opposed to high usage guards or non-shooting bigs.
Didn’t know he hit nearly 70% around the rim. That’s Parker-esque.
I'm more in favor of Bryant at 14 if he makes it that far. I am curious to see what his actual measurements are because he looks bigger than that to me. I also think his frame is still filling out more than Sochan's was when drafted. I think his long term position will be at the 4 once he finishes maturing physically.
He's the real deal. If his court vision improves his ceiling is through the roof. Even if it doesn't he's gonna be more than solid if paired with a 2 or 3 with the court vision (Egor Demin anyone?l) to compensate for that weakness.
Besides Cooper Flagg, who else that we draft would be a starter on our team? I guess what I’m saying is what exactly are you looking for in this draft? If you told me that we draft someone with great size, great athleticism, can shoot, play defense, and moves well without the ball and can be effective without the ball. That’s the type of player I want.
Who I don’t want is a smaller player, less athletic, so so defense, needs the ball to be effective, and can shoot but isn’t used to shooting it only 6 times a game like our player we draft is going to shoot. I’m looking for a role player. And player A sounds like we can mold him into a better role player than player B
I wouldn't be mad at a Richardson/Sorber outcome. The fact that Jase was coached by Izzo bodes well for his coachability and toughness. Having 2 lefty scoring PGs would be an unusual situation. It might come down to a Bryant or Richardson as BPA on draft day. I'd probably go with Richardson.
Monday will clarify our future a bit more distinctly. Are we there yet?!?!
6'1 185 non lead guard, pass.
Until we get more measurements he's listed at 6'3"
How often did he get there? I couldn't find his shot diet stats.
Vassell shot 67.7% at the rim this past season and 68.1% for his career. The issue is that he rarely gets there, only 14.4% of his shot attempts are at the rim.
Parker shot 64.5% at the rim in his career and 34.8% of his shots were at the rim, though at his peak he was in the high 60s at the rim and high 30s in % of shots at the rim.
87 times
292 total shot attempts
29.79% of his shot diet
for threes, he had 114 attempts. Shot 41.2%
38.2% of his shot diet
Thanks. 30% is significant.
I'm still a bit afraid that he might not be able to share the floor with Fox, but if he's the best player available I could get on board. He would be up for an extension when Fox is 32 and starting to lose some of his athleticism, and it would be nice to have a good finisher at the PG spot for all 48 minutes. Of course this means CP3 would be gone, but I doubt he will stay anyway.
6'1 6'3 185lb sharing the court in the playoffs not a chance. If he is truly BPA then someone would match his value in a trade out.
We're drafting 1 and 4 Fam... no need to worry about the Carter Bryants or Jase Richardsons.
Half this board will be asking to fire Mitch Johnson when Carter Bryant starts in the g league, get limited minutes when he does get called up and finishes averaging 4 ppg on 10 mpg lol. I’m not saying he won’t be good but he is more of a project than most see him on here. Can the Spurs still develop players at a high level like that?
This guy would not be in the Spurs rotation this year except for spot minutes. He could pay off 2-3 years down the line but isn’t it about time the Spurs start making the playoffs. I mean they could in theory still make it even with a project on their Bench. I guess. If you think they can overcome being dominated on the boards every game next season
Half this board is dumb anyway. I just saw a post from a guy with vanilla takes that said a 6'9 225 player is stronger than a 6'9 265.
Re you're just embarrassing yourself in every possible topic and showing you don't even watch games.
I've been interested in Jase for a while now. I have a half serious theory that every year there's a 6'2 combo guard that gets overlooked because he's short even though he's actually really talented and then everyone wonders why they didn't pick him higher... to me for this year that looks like Jase. His shooting looks great. I don't see a starter but someone who could contribute early. Honestly, we shouldn't except our first round picks to somehow all be starters. No, we need players who can earn minutes in my opinion. And hope for more.
In that context I go back and forth regarding Carter Bryant. He looks like he's 2 to 3 years away from doing anything and that does kind of scare me to some degree. Jase at least looks like an asset.
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I'm surprised Broome didn't show up in these stats. He seems to pop up everywhere. Would you happen to have his stats?
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Do these numbers differ because it includes dunks? I took mines from barrtovik and filtered for close 2’s only.
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Harper's numbers here are amazing. Looks the most NBA ready guard among the lot.
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