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Landing 2 would be really sweet tbh, a Fox/Harper or Harper/Castle future is pretty sick
Gonna be sad when we inevitably get 14 and 10. Hope there are some good prospects in that range still, I don’t know beyond the top 5 (Flagg, Ace, Harper, Edgecombe, Traore)
Landing 2 would be really sweet tbh, a Fox/Harper or Harper/Castle future is pretty sick
Several. He was happy to coast on defense for long stretches. He's no Castle at that end.
Your looking at some old mocks, Traore fell off hard. Honestly after the current “consensus 5” plus Kon, it’s kinda a crap shoot up through about 15. So not sure how much we’d lose out on a 10/14 scenario.
10 is pretty unlikely. Not much different than #1, or any top 4 individual slot. Collectively, there is roughly 4X the chance of a top 4 pick than sliding to #10.
As mentioned, Traore ain't close to a top 5 pick. Maybe not even lottery.
I'm not convinced Bailey or Edgecombe are top 5. Probably, but one could drop.
Even if the Spurs get 10 and 14 they can still try to move up, which can be the best move regardless.
Traore will very very likely still be there at 14, he's having a terrible season. He'll probably go late teens.
Don't think I'd bother trying to move up even if it's 10 and 14 with how flat this draft gets after #4.
Btw speaking about Traore, he’s been really good in the last couple of months. Watched a game of his lately and he’s been amazing, his shot is falling, he can get anywhere he wants and his passing is crisp. Still a bit too turnover prone and can be overwhelmed with physicality but he’s playing against grown men.
Anyway, my point is that his early season struggles are long gone.
I echo that! I’ve been watching Traore’s last couple of games. He is playing awesome. I like him more than Fears and Demin
Largely depends. Sight unseen, no. But if you're looking at only like an Asa Newell and are seeing your guys go, I'd try to jump up. Get a contingency in place at least.
Traore is another guard who just doesn't work with this current Spurs team. Can't take a small guard with a nice pick when you are devoting so much to De'Aaron Fox. It doesn't work.
For the Nth time, De’Aaron Fox isn’t going to be here forever. You also really can’t have too many guards in today’s NBA. Traore would likely be on the slow track in Austin if picked at 14, and that would be an OK spot to pick a backup guard.
For the billionth time, nope. No sense in getting a tiny guard who is going to be permanently coming off the bench for five years and, if DAF plays 30-35 mins a game, Traore or Fears only gets 13-18 mins a game.
It just doesn't work. Eventually you'll figure it out.
I know French basketball is quite expansive these days, but do Wemby and Traore have any association with each other beyond casual acquaintances? Like we know Wemby and Coulibaly are boys etc, just wondering if there is any other factors that could influence the Spurs come draft day.
It’s pick 14. Your complaints might (or might still not) have merit at 8, but anything goes after the top 10.
If we’re doing french connections, traore and get essengue. Wemby and essengue will be joined at the nba/fiba/olympic hip for the next 10 years.
He's not Castle on D, but he's not Knecht either...
Still no. But people are talking Fears at 8, too. A small guard at 14 is also a waste. You're not picking in the lottery to stick a guy in G-League for five years. At the end of his first rookie deal he's gonna want to get out of here and actually play.
Can't say I'd be interested in trading up for guys like Maluach, Fears, or Queen and I doubt #9/10 + #14 get you up to #5 to draft Johnson, Knueppel, or Bailey. Maybe #8 + #14 could.
I'm all in on this guy, not sure why I don't see him hyped more here. guy played w men while most of these prospects played with children.
https://youtu.be/mgtGsqn3oLA?si=YsXuIoCAgdfIvKMR
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Essengue is a solid all around player with no weaknesses but he also doesn’t have any strengths at this time. You can tell he played soccer growing up because he has nice footwork but has terrible hands. That’s the one advantage American prospects have is they play other sports growing up with their hands. Baseball, football and so on. Essengue tries to dribble with his finger tips and can’t catch very well but other than that good all around player.
Everything I've seen has Traore falling way back, with Tre Johnson as the more/less consensus 5th.
I really want Kon or Johnson, but otherwise I won't lose sleep falling to 10. Brooklyn has 6 slot + 19, 26 and 27 + 36. If we end up with 10/14 I could definitely see us and Brooklyn making a consolidation trade like 14 for 19/26 and selling our 38th (and hopefully other seconds to an apron team hopefully for a pick/swap and not cash) or maybe using those picks to trade up with the 76ers if they don't get Flagg, the 10 + 14 only cost $1.5M more slot salary than the 5.
That could net us Bryant or Essengue + McNeely or Fleming + maybe Sorber or Wolf or whatever rebounding big is still there.
We only have 10 guys under contract with Barnes/Sochan/Bran/Wesley/Julian expiring with the last 4 having RFA rights or a team option.
Bringing in 3 cost-controlled rookies, trading at least 1/2 expiring's, and bringing in a MLE and low-cost vet experience seems likely.
Harper is measured at 6’4.50 barefoot. Castle is taller than him by 1”.
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