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Nope not feeling that at all, even if Utah threw in pick #5 I'm saying no
What about the number? Does Harper get the infamous #2?
Nope not feeling that at all, even if Utah threw in pick #5 I'm saying no
The more I have time to marinate on it, the more I think this is it.
Draft Harper. Move Devin, Keldon and maybe Sochan to get capable forwards.
You can't trade Fox now, for a few reasons:
- Spurs won't do dirty to a player who forced his way here at a discount. It would damage our ability to get players in the future.
- Fox has one year remaining so his value is going to be diminished because Fox may want to test FA after being traded by the team he wanted to be at... which means...
- Fox needs to sign an extension first, but when he does there will be a 6 month moratorium on trading him.
So, you sign Fox to an extension, which even at a 30% max hopefully won't look too bad after several years of 10% cap increases. If he plays two years at his current level, he'll still have great trade value right when Harper will be ready to take over as starting PG.
I’ve read Harper can play off-ball, and that his off-ball three-point percentage is better (36.8%). Draft him and figure it out later - like Timvp said, he’s a tier above everyone else not named Flagg.
Wemby
Reid/Fleming
Castle
Harper
Fox
I’d like to add Naz Reid (sign-and-trade Vassell) and/or Rasheer Fleming. Forget about trading for Giannis, he’s too expensive both in terms of assets and salary for a soon-to-be declining and often-injured player.
It’s not Bailey’s measurements that put me off, it’s his archetype. He’s an alpha scorer who likely isn’t good enough to pull that lever in the NBA,so then what are you? He’s not a creator for others. His asst/tO ratio is a fraction, manifesting some of the same issues as Cam Whitmore.
2 for Mark and 5 is closer. Harper would've been the first-overall pick last year. Mark is potentially overpaid now given his contract and lack of consistent performance. Maybe you think the Jazz were forcing Lauri to sit to tank. But the Jazz can't claim that, and we don't know how much of it is true. Pretty sure if the Spurs wanted him, they could get him without 2 or Castle being involved.
I can't believe people are serious about trading for Giannis.
There is no way anyone who wants to trade for him actually watches him beyond scoreboards and highlights.
Dude is a moody selfish malcontent.
To say you want to trade for Giannis is to say you want a player who is going to force the team to give a roster spot to his brother, to get your coach fired (after playing a hand in getting the coach hired), to refuse to run even an average number of pick and rolls ( the main reason the bucks aren't as good as they should be is that Giannis doesn't like to screen and dive) and have him be hurt either at the end of the season or in the playoffs, something that has happened 3 of the last 4 years. Bonus points for talking about getting traded and playing for a championship team every off season after he won a championship.
His injuries are directly related to his brute force play style as well. Giannis is going to be one of those dudes who averages 28 and then starts averaging 18 overnight when his body breaks down.
Hard pass on this dude. Spurs would have to start playing "giannis ball" which hasn't gotten the bucks anything but early playoff exits save 1 magical season. Victor is to good for that.
Flagg is high motor and a jack of all trades. Bailey so far is a one note player: a guy who can get off difficult jumpshots and hit them at a decent clip but who doesn't really do anything else well. And the FT shooting scares me. With all the concerns about Steph's shooting last year at UConn he was still 6 points higher at the FT line than Bailey at Rutgers.
Yeah I don't think he will fall nearly as much as Whitmore, but no one should be writing him in at #3 or even #4 in pen on their expected draft boards.
There’s delusional and then there’s this.
Bailey is regarded as a potential 27-28 PPG scorer in the NBA. Though certainly not immediately. I’m just tired of us rolling out 6-5” guys at forward, we need more length, badly.
If you wanted to draft measurements, just get an elephant.
There's nothing delusional about Dallas wanting to get Giannis. Maybe there's no way to get in on it, but it's in play.
Harper isn't gonna be happy about coming off the bench his Rookie year tbh.
Imagine his camp asks us not to draft him for that reason
I do not like Giannis and have been pretty vocal about my dislike of him for years now. He and Lillard both get/got by with reputations for being awesome people despite repeatedly finding themselves in situations where they handled things poorly. I thought it was poetic justice that Giannis made the Bucks trade an actual winning player in Holiday for that loser. It's a shame that even with him trying to force his way out of a mess of his own making that many folks still thinks the Bucks owe him a trade to wherever he wants to go.
He's the last player I'd want to put around Wemby. Bad fit on the court; even worse fit off it somehow.
He'll work fine as an isolation scorer for the spurs as someone who can punish teams for sending a 3rd guy into a Victor / Fox or Victor / Castle pick and roll. Teams actually need an isolation scorer who can get buckets around 2 established stars. Those are the teams that make the playoffs. Like Reaves for the lakers, Powerll for the clippers, Gordon for Denver, etc. Castle is fine but he doesn't have the offensive ceiling or polish that Bailey has.
Not sure what "good enough to pull the lever in the NBA" even means. Put him on the Spurs and I am positive no teams best defender or even second best defender is going to be trying to check Bailey with Fox and Victor on the court.
Exactly. Don't be Portland and turn down MJ because you have Drexler.
Now you're thinking. Two 6'6 all star level talent guards in the backcourt with Wemby for 10-15 years.
I see, so why are they bothering to measure players?
30mpg as a 6th man on a playoff team is way better than Mormon land or Poole party, the most likely outcomes he was looking at.Harper isn't gonna be happy about coming off the bench his Rookie year tbh.
Imagine his camp asks us not to draft him for that reason
Players will be moved to get out of his way.Harper isn't gonna be happy about coming off the bench his Rookie year tbh.
Imagine his camp asks us not to draft him for that reason
Certainly not to compare them to far superior players just because their measurements are similar. Flagg s all over Bailey,in spite of similar dimensions.
Nah. He gonna want to play with Wemby.Harper isn't gonna be happy about coming off the bench his Rookie year tbh.
Imagine his camp asks us not to draft him for that reason
Trade 2 for 6 Wizards pick and Bilal Coulibaly? ��
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