Spurs Select F Jeremy Sochan with the 9th Pick in the 2022 NBA Draft

[SpursFan86]

$11MM/year for Sochan sounds more than reasonable. Would be happy to extend him for 3 years/33MM.

Once you get into that 16-20MM/year range that’s where I start being less thrilled at the idea of keeping him around.

[024]

Even though the basic stats didn't really show it, I thought Sochan made some progress last year. He's finding his place on his team and with some good facilitators, he should be a useful rotation player. His size is good enough at PF against most teams (Spurs really need a couple more reliable bigs though). I can see his shot improving next year as he works on his form. Could be an opportunity to lock him into a reasonable contract and hope he outperforms it (doubt it will be 11m/yr, maybe closer to the MLE amount of 12-13m/yr).

[RC_Drunkford]

Sochan might actually be the one player who can lock up SGA's foul ba ing ass

[k830713]

Sochan 50/4

[stnick2261]

If Sochan can start hitting the 3 at a high clip, I'd really like to see if he can play the SF position.

I see a lot of people saying Fox, Castle and Harper should all play together, but I think that loses our size advantage. 32 minute rotation at the PG/SG positions is enough for each to play at 100% effort without getting worn out.

Sochan is fast enough to play SF, plays excellent Defense against smaller players, and it would open up the PF position for a larger player (big man) to bang around.

But it all comes around to his shot.

[John B]

I think Sochan needs to be just a 3andD guy like Bowen did. Bowen couldn’t even dribble the ball if his life defended on it, likewise Danny Green. But those players were “specialists” during the championship years. The more Spurs add talent to this roster, the better their duties are defined. I’m okay with extending Sochan with a “3&D” money, 11/year.

[Knoxxx]

Sochan might actually be the one player who can lock up SGA's foul ba ing ass

True dat! I remember one game SGA just quit driving the ball on Sochan and passed it away quickly, not sure I’ve actually seen anyone else do that to him.

[scott]

Toumani Camara is everything we are hoping Sochan can become. Great defender capable of switching 1-5, can hit the 3.

What contract would you offer Camara if he was a FA right now? Sochan is probably worth around 50-60% of that.

[scott]

And before someone tries to argue that Sochan is a better defender than Camara (who just made All D 2nd team). Camara is 4 years older though.

[Ariel]

I was supporting of drafting Sochan (I wanted whoever from Mathurin, Dyson Daniels and him were left at 9) and I still believe he can become a valuable player, but Spurs should absolutely NOT hand him a big contract before he proves he can't be played off the floor in the playoffs due to his offensive limitations. If they want to give him a 3 year deal (ideally 4th year team option) below the non tax payer MLE or in that range then that's fine, otherwise let hiim play out his 4th year and test restricted free agency. If he doesn't improve he won't get much elsewhere, and if he gets a big offer it's probably due to him elevating his game which means he's either a keeper or will get the Spurs an interesting return. No need to rush it unless it's a no brainer.

[quentin_compson]

I think we all need to appreciate the fact that at this point at least, Sochan isn't a bad shooter, he is simply a non-shooter. 3 and D is a looooong way away for him.

[cd021]

$11MM/year for Sochan sounds more than reasonable. Would be happy to extend him for 3 years/33MM.

Once you get into that 16-20MM/year range that’s where I start being less thrilled at the idea of keeping him around.

Sochan 50/4

I'm not sure he'd agree to either offer tbh. At that point he might as well gamble on himself. Even so, I think his value is higher relative to the rising cap. Still, I probably wouldn't pay him more than 15 million a year at this point.

[cd021]

Even though the basic stats didn't really show it, I thought Sochan made some progress last year. He's finding his place on his team and with some good facilitators, he should be a useful rotation player. His size is good enough at PF against most teams (Spurs really need a couple more reliable bigs though). I can see his shot improving next year as he works on his form. Could be an opportunity to lock him into a reasonable contract and hope he outperforms it (doubt it will be 11m/yr, maybe closer to the MLE amount of 12-13m/yr).

His efficiency improved quite a bit thanks to him taking fewer threes and shooting more of his shots at the rim. He also shot 70% within 3 feet which is great. Very good on the glass. I'm still iffy about his future even though he has is useful now.

If he can't be a consistent shooter then he is basically a center, and his value goes way down. If Fox and Wemby can be good high-volume 3-points shooters, then he could still work but I'm still hoping he can at least hit open threes.

[poopbox]

Toumani Camara is everything we are hoping Sochan can become. Great defender capable of switching 1-5, can hit the 3.

What contract would you offer Camara if he was a FA right now? Sochan is probably worth around 50-60% of that.

I mean Camara is such a different type of player than Sochan I don't see how the two can be compared and I don't see any way for Sochan to become that type of player. He doesn't have the skill set.

I'm learning I like Jeremy even less than I thought because instead of being ok with getting him for super cheap I would rather do literally anything else with that money. Never thought I could dislike a player so much I wouldn't want to pay him 10 million a year but here we are.

I'd do 4 for somewhere between 80 and 90 for Camara. And 2 years into that contract it might be a steal cause he seems like the type of player who would explode with more playing time.

[KobesAchilles]

I think Sochan has proven with his instagram posts that his shot is completely fixed and he is ready to take the next leap developmentally. He has shown he can handle the ball. He can make all the passes and run an offense. He shuts down every teams best player. And add to it his elite 3 point shot that he has developed and he is worth 5 years 130 million. I think that’s a fair price and in 5 years time it’s going to be a steal.

There are too many haters here on Spurstalk. Sochan is only 22 guys. He completely redeveloped his shot. His rebounding is elite. His defense is elite. He will be our Draymond for us. Yall just need faith. Sign him long term and get him at a cheap deal bc next year if he plays out his contract he’s going to be a max guy.

[scott]

I mean Camara is such a different type of player than Sochan I don't see how the two can be compared and I don't see any way for Sochan to become that type of player. He doesn't have the skill set.

I'm learning I like Jeremy even less than I thought because instead of being ok with getting him for super cheap I would rather do literally anything else with that money. Never thought I could dislike a player so much I wouldn't want to pay him 10 million a year but here we are.

I'd do 4 for somewhere between 80 and 90 for Camara. And 2 years into that contract it might be a steal cause he seems like the type of player who would explode with more playing time.

Toumani is a different type of player because he can do all the things we need Sochan to do, but Sochan can't... which is exactly my point.

[heyheymymy]

Devin, Jeremy, and Steph are all three in Marbella, Spain on holidays

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/co...e_in_marbella/

[Tyrone Jenkins]

If Sochan can start hitting the 3 at a high clip, I'd really like to see if he can play the SF position.

Why does anyone think this will happen at this point?

[Tyrone Jenkins]

I think Sochan has proven with his instagram posts that his shot is completely fixed and he is ready to take the next leap developmentally. He has shown he can handle the ball. He can make all the passes and run an offense. He shuts down every teams best player. And add to it his elite 3 point shot that he has developed and he is worth 5 years 130 million. I think that’s a fair price and in 5 years time it’s going to be a steal.

There are too many haters here on Spurstalk. Sochan is only 22 guys. He completely redeveloped his shot. His rebounding is elite. His defense is elite. He will be our Draymond for us. Yall just need faith. Sign him long term and get him at a cheap deal bc next year if he plays out his contract he’s going to be a max guy.

Elite level shooting? Shuts down the other teams best player? Elite rebounding?

We must be watching different games...

[exstatic]

Why does anyone think this will happen at this point?

Because he’s shot better than Aaron Gordon at this point in their respective careers? We don’t need him to be Steph Curry. If he can shoot 35-36% on 5 attempt,that’s fine. He’s shot 31% the last two years, higher than any year ofGordon’s first three. You howling hyenas will probably get your way, they’ll trade him, and he’ll go be some other team’s Aaron Gordon, instead of being ours, OKC if we’re really unlucky. He’d be a thorn in Wemby’s side for a decade.

[LeBowen]

Because he’s shot better than Aaron Gordon at this point in their respective careers?

No, he didn't.
You can't look at percentages of a non-shooter like Jeremy. Every single one of his attempts except for buzzer beaters when he simply had to shoot were completely wide open.
He needs to get to 40%+ on those "alone in the gym" attempts where noone is even trying to contest him before we can look at his percentages.


https://www.nba.com/stats/player/163...Regular+Season
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1631110/shooting

Or are you really going to have another one of your typical takes and say Jeremy is a better 3pt shooter than Castle just because of their percentages?
There's a bigger gap between Jeremy and Castle than between Castle and Devin.

[exstatic]

No, he didn't.
You can't look at percentages of a non-shooter like Jeremy. Every single one of his attempts except for buzzer beaters when he simply had to shoot were completely wide open.
He needs to get to 40%+ on those "alone in the gym" attempts where noone is even trying to contest him before we can look at his percentages.

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/163...Regular+Season
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1631110/shooting

I watched Aaron Gordon’s early career. Jeremy is a better shooter than early career Aaron. You’re allowed to hold any opinion you like, but that doesn’t make it right.

[LeBowen]

Jeremy is a better shooter than early career Aaron.

Year 3 Jeremy, 1.7 attempts, 4 games with more than 1 3pt made.
Year 3 Gordon, 3.3. attempts, 15 games with more than 1 3pt made.

Do I need to start posting highlights for you to see how Gordon's jumpshot looked compared to Jeremy's and the level of contest?
But I guess Jeremy was a way better shooter because he shot 2% better on half the volume. Not to mention how the game has changed over these 8 years and that half the volume in 2025 is actually even worse than that.

Or do you think that Castle is a worse shooter than Jeremy because he shot 2% worse on more than double the volume?
Until a player, in this case Jeremy, starts taking normal 3pts in the flow of the offense and gets at least some attention while doing it, his percentages are irrelevant.
He's at 30% on practice shots with no contest.

and he’ll go be some other team’s Aaron Gordon

He can become a good player, but he definitely won't became Aaron Gordon because of the size and athleticism difference.
He can't finish for through contact while young Gordon was jumping through and over defenders with ease.

You’re allowed to hold any opinion you like, but that doesn’t make it right.

[rankingtear]

Toumani is a different type of player because he can do all the things we need Sochan to do, but Sochan can't... which is exactly my point.

Would Toumani force the other teams best wing defender to guard him instead of Victor, cause that what we need Sochan to do tbh.

[poopbox]

Would Toumani force the other teams best wing defender to guard him instead of Victor, cause that what we need Sochan to do tbh.

No but he is a way more functional and modern nba player than Jeremy, and he is someone who when the balls finds him can do more than either make a wide open dunk, layup, or airball a 3, which is the extent of Jeremy's offensive capabilities.