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His two old teams reaching heights he never could while the Clippers are stuck with broken down, old stars.
The one single reason why I'm not (a) trading Castle or (b) passing up on Harper. I don't want be in the position of Clippers fans right now.
With budding young talents/prospects, it is imperative that you give them proper time and opportunity to evaluate before putting them on the block..
His two old teams reaching heights he never could while the Clippers are stuck with broken down, old stars.
It's such a terrible feeling if you're a Clippers fan, tbh. The "what could have been'' part with a young prospect is an even worse place to be than when your bonafide star player bolts in free agency or forces his way out.. This is why I am all for giving Harper-Castle a minimum 3-4 years together to see what we have in both. Even then, you could still make a terrible mistake in player evaluation (see Thunder with Harden in 2012)
His two old teams reaching heights he never could while the Clippers are stuck with broken down, old stars.
It was still the right move to make.
It was effectively a trade for both PG13 and nephew.
PG13 just finished 3rd in both MVP and DPOY voting, nephew carried his team to a ring and won another FMVP.
PG13 was 29 and nephew was 28, it was supposed to be a 4 year window of having the best duo in the league, but then covid and injuries struck.
If Giannis was a couple of years younger, we'd all be for trading both Castle and Harper without any hesitation.
Clippers coughing up what became SGA is a cautionary tale. Lots of teams going in on big mistakes trying to shortcut the process. I don't really like many of the big type moves lately. Not sure Gobert to MIN worked out. KAT to NYK but even if that was just about money context Bridges to NYK has not seemed to be worth the premium either. Obvs teams have to do something and obvs teams want to manage their contention windows, and not sure if you can just rewind the timeline and still have contracts work. But at some point the Knicks eg took it too far and I wonder how the team just a few moves back would fare in place of the current one.
I'd also point to MIL getting Dame. Would welcome context corrections but still feel like the Bucks took it too far trying to finagle some superteam duo to jar their window still open and in doing so sacrificed flexibility, depth, and chemistry. Even PHX had they not gone after Beal and focused around KD and Booker taking their time to move off Ayton and think of what they could've done with that Beal chunk instead? I know there are cir stances like money and compatibility and star demands so maybe I'm wrong but some of those moves are just rushed, dumb, and hamstrung the teams.
imho there had to be better moves to take. It looks like tunnel visioning for some premature finishing touch in hamfisted impatience and lack of discipline while spilling value.
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Thunder's 11 players who got non-garbage time minutes in these playoffs.
Yeah, Giddey was #6 and he got traded away, but the point is that Spurs need to find some more good players with late picks or get reclamation projects like Champagnie or Bassey who have some value.
This becomes even more important with the new CBA.
We got our Fox, Wemby and hopefully Castle, Harper core, the rest of the roster can be acquired for cheap if our front office proves to be competent enough.
which is why I'm against trading the pick. Especially when there are a lot of good defenders available in our range and those are hard to come by on the trade market. I totally expect the Spurs to trade it away though.
I guess it's going to come down to if there's anyone they think is worth picking available.
Last year's trade was a huge overpay by Minnesota and a good decision in hindsight, considering how weak the draft was.
#14 has way lower value than #8 and I'd hate to see another similar trade, I'd be fine if it's used in a trade for a legit player.
Our four player core should be set after the Harper pick, we just need to stack up on 3-D wings with legit size and we're good to go.
We could even take a brute force, quan y first approach to it. Just get 2 or 3 Champagnie-style reclamation projects every summer, eventually a couple of those will hit.
Chet. I’m guessing that Jalen will correctly insist on his SuperMax after his All NBA selection. Guessing that they’ll offer Chet a < max extension, and he’ll go into FA next year.
It would be ironic if Wemby’s injury, and subsequent non selection for All NBA might be the cause of the first OKC cracks, because Jalen was selected.
you can only sign a supermax when you have been in the league 5 or more years. What you are talking about is the 30% rookie max.
Well to be fair I didn't expect the Boston injuries.
Yeah,but the usually rookie max is 25%, so BabyMax?
Inside a given draft year, this is obviously true, but (IMO of course), this year's draft is much better than last years. In terms of the quality of prospect you might draw, I'd say the two picks (#8, 2024 and #14, 2025) are even, maybe even leaning towards this year (#14, 2025).
It's not even close. This draft is FAR better.
Cavs were historic in multiple metrics and got destroyed in the second round...
OKC’s perimeter is better than Cleveland’s though
It’s easier to abuse Garland because of his size
the Cavs play defensive liabilities. Garland and Mitc are both negatives on defense. All you gotta do is get the switch and go 1-on-1 against them. Indiana is exposing the Knicks for it in the ECF.
OKC doesn't have any liabilities on the roster. All 15 players are positive defenders by defensive EPM.
Yep. Would be nice if we started taking the second round seriously, for starters.
Jalen's All NBA selection this season doesn't actually make him eligible for the Rookie SuperMax. He still needs to make All NBA (or win MVP/DPOY) next season. He can sign an extension this summer that includes language that allows for his contract to scale up to the 30% max *if* he meets the criteria.
Not specific to JDub, but Rookie "SuperMax" deals can include criteria for the scaling up beyond 25%. For example, OKC could do a contract where JDub gets 27% for making All NBA third team, 28% for second team, 29% for first team, 30% for MVP (as an example). This is one of those little known features of Designated Rookie Extensions, it's not just a 25% or 30% situation.
Hoping to see the knicks eliminated at home...
might not happen due to the pacers youth/inexperience - but maybe carlisle can keep them focused...but its 50/50 that we see either a pacers blow out/knicks elimination
or
pacers relax and assume they can just turn it on again in indiana?
man the clippers doesnt have a young superstar like wemby..so its different. Even if we passo on harper or castle it doenst matter because we have wemby.
Thought I read that the selection had to be in one of the two years before the new contract or extension kicks in.
Edit: the actual criteria…
Be named to an All-NBA team in the most recent season or two in the last three seasons.
Last edited by exstatic; 05-29-2025 at 06:25 PM.
Milwaukee has Giannis, a top 3 NBA player, and they’re still in the ter. One guy can’t do it, not even a superstar.
Yep, it has to be in the most recent season prior to the extension kicking in (which would be next year). You'll see extensions with the Designated Criteria built into them (but not yet earned) show up this way in Spotrac (Cade's is now earned, it just hasn't updated yet):
But my original question was not so much is who is OKC going to lose... but which OKC Free Agent will earn a deal that will eventually be viewed as an overpay because they're coming from OKC (like Bruce Brown when he left DEN)?
They amazingly have no free agents of significance this offseason... but the year after iHart, Dort, Cason and Jaylin Williams are set to become Free agents. I could see Dort and Cason getting oversized deals from dip team like Atlanta or Brooklyn.
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