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All these reports are just teams doing their due diligence and the media trying to stir up controversy before the draft. Spurs will almost certainly just take Dylan Harper at #2. Nothing else makes any sense.
Using #14 to move up to #3 makes no sense. That would cost Castle at a minimum, and other than Bailey or maybe Kon the best players at #3 are guards so it would be the same problem with Fox/Harper/VJ.
The Spurs trading #2 for #3 plus assets makes even less sense. The Sixers can't trade any firsts until 2029 at the earliest. Maybe if it's #2 for #3 + PHI29 + PHI31 + unprotected swaps in 2030 and 2032? Even then that's tough to swallow because there's such a large gap between Harper and whoever the Spurs would want at #3.
All these reports are just teams doing their due diligence and the media trying to stir up controversy before the draft. Spurs will almost certainly just take Dylan Harper at #2. Nothing else makes any sense.
Yup.
I just looked up the Sixers future drafts and I forgot to look at the incoming side.
What they have to offer is
- 2025 #3
- LAC28
- LAC29 swap protected #1-3
- two of PHI29/30/31/32
- swaps on the other two of those
- all their own seconds
- 5 excess seconds (1 in 2027, 2 in 2028, 2 in 2030)
If the Sixers were willing to fully empty the chest for #2, it might be worthwhile after all.
That would be stupid of the Sixers, but some FOs do stupid things and you never know until you ask!
Those 76ers LAC picks are likely fools gold. The Clippers will be set up for Leonard and Harden, with a one year extension, contracts to expire in 2027 and Ballmer will have a boatload of cap space to spend.
My guess is that Sixers offer is #2 for #3, McCain, and a future unprotected first, but I’m prob not taking that
Any truth to the idea that Harper's dad does not want him in San Antonio?
Yes he has publicly said he doesn’t want him to play for the Spurs. His son however has publicly said he wishes to play with the Spurs and his dream is to play with Wemby
Don Harris tweeted the Philly rumors are “laughable”
Draft night can’t be over soon enough.
future picks and swaps, not players. But it's most likely NOLA or Utah we're making a deal with.
Spurs obviously got a target in the top 10 and it's most likely Maluach
no team with Kawhi Leonard and James Harden is set up. Kawhi can't even play 50% of the games.
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 06-12-2025 at 12:51 PM.
If PHI wants to give us a kings ransom to flip picks we should be looking at it. And we should not discount a 3rd team being in the mix either, for example that could move us from 14 into the top 8 or 10 as was mentioned.
Spurs should not overthink this. Grab Harper when they can and figure it out later. The kid is going to be multiple All-Star.
I agree. Hopefully this is just redraft noise and the Spurs doing their due diligence, and Harper will be a Spur come Draft night.
The gap between 2 and 3 is larger than the gap between 1 and 2, imo.
A year from now the Spurs will crash out in like the second round of the playoffs, Harper will have started ripping up defenses and be first team All Rookie as the other unanimous member after the ROY Flagg and we'll be wondering what we'll be doing with the Atlanta lottery pick we have.
They have no ransom to offer
i distinctly remember thinking when the Spurs traded Gordan Giricek to Utah that we should have traded them Ginobili instead, because Giricek was a better shooter and that's what we needed with Timmy.
If Spurs trade down to 3 and get well compensated via some PHI future picks, those can enable the KD trade and possibly some surplus left over to possibly parlay to a Jaylen Brown. Example:
Spurs give:
#2, #14, any players but Fox/Castle/Wemby
Spurs get:
#3, #8, KD, Jaylen Brown
Fox
Castle
Brown
KD
Bailey/Edgecomb etc
Maluach
Wemby
And maybe it’s not Jaylen Brown due to his contract size, but some other strong veteran trade acquisition. But, the idea here is we should be thinking big as the stars could align for us.
And I’m aware that this likely involves more than 3 teams, but we don’t need to limit ourselves to only 2-3 team trade ideas. That’s not even realistic, that we do one 2-3 team trade only.
It wouldn't cost Castle. It'd cost us absorbing PG though and I don't think we do that.
That’s figurative speech. Someone posted they do have future FRPs to offer.
https://www.bleachernation.com/nba/2...5-draft-picks/
We get a couple of those, send one to PHO, perhaps another of our own FRPs, offload some of our future SRPs to PHO and PHI. Think outside the box for a second, man!
We are trying to make PHO think it’s a king’s ransom for KD. The real goal is to fleece PHO, PHI, and any other team we can, shhhh don’t tell them!
Thinking outside the box is fine if it meets our needs and satisfy's another to get it done.... This ain't that..
would be most likely Trey Murphy or John Collins. One of those plus fillers and future draft compensation. Lauri Markkanen might also be on the table if the KD trade doesn't happen. There's no way the Spurs want Jaylen Brown on a supermax and try to pair him with KD on a vet max. You'll have no money left. Might as well go for Giannis then.
Jaylen Brown has been ridden hard, and put away wet. He has a lot more mileage than his age would suggest. His contract is also unworkable. The last year, when Durant has rolled off, and Castle is in the first year of his extension, with Wemby and Fox getting paid already, is $64M.
Right, the point was that trading off Harper is feasible and should be considered. We can swap in and out other names based on individual preference. Brown for Naz Reid, Knueppel for Maluach, etc. That’s why I caveated Brown as I don’t think the Spurs would want his contract. The idea was an example of the caliber of player we could add, on top of KD and two draft picks, by being open to moving the 2 pick. I’m not saying I prefer to move the 2 pick, but if the deal is right never say never.
Appreciate your feedback and keeping me honest on the salary side, since you are much more studied in that area than I.
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