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    My sense is Suns have Spurs best offer, Spurs have made clear there isn’t much wiggle, and Suns are doing a last push to see if Houston will return their picks to top the offer. Houston holdout the line, but I think they’ll end up with the winning deal.
    Houston is definitely holding the line, they want Devin Booker. They are
    playing the long game. Putting pressure on PHX to eventually blow it up and then give them their 27 pick, 29 swap back along with other draft assets mixed with players.

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    Saw a good trade:

    CHI Gets: Keldon + Branham + 2 2nds (38 this year from SA + NOP 2nd next year from SA)

    PHX Gets: Vucevic + Vassell + 14 from Spurs

    SA Gets: KD

    PHX gets their vet Center who can help some now plus a good young player and good pick.

    CHI finally gets something out of Vuc in the form of Keldon + 2 2nds

    SA has to give up Dev + Keldon + 14 and 2 2nds (to dump Branham) but keeps it at that and gets KD (while adding Harper still and keeping Sochan + Castle)

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    Since it has been rumored that a KD to the Spurs deal was done last week, I assume all this media hype is just there to make the Suns look like they are trying? And at the end of it all they sending him to San Antonio

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    ing re I literally pointed out the facts that KD has been playing as PF for 5 ing years.
    If I say he's too slow, that means he can't play SF on defense. Offensive roles are fluid, anyway.

    Would you have SF KD defend Nesmith or Williams, because that would happen if we had a legit PF like let's say John Collins.
    Dumb re wasting my time on explaining basic .
    He made all NBA a year ago at SF. Still just making things up.

    Cheers lil bro. Done with ya.

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    He made all NBA a year ago at SF. Still just making things up.

    Are you completely braindead?
    Their 23-24 starting lineup was Beal/Booker/Allen/KD/Nurkic, with Gordon, Okogie and O'Neale starting some games when Beal got hurt.
    Are you trying to tell me KD wasn't the PF in those lineups.

    Try to find any game where KD matched up with the smaller of the two forwards or the opposing team. Or should I even say with the more perimeter oriented forward.
    He's still a good defender at PF, but he can't keep up with SFs.

    Let's say we get Fox/Castle/KD/John Collins/Wemby lineup and we're playing SGA/Dort/Williams/Chet/Hartenstein.
    How do you match that up?
    Collins is too slow to guard SF and too small to guard C.
    You think KD would be able to keep up with Williams?
    Or you want to put KD on Dort and have either Williams or SGA abuse Fox?

    Are you braindead? You're just straight up lying and trying to present your as facts.

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    Think this is one of the unappreciated things for older athletes as well. The new training facility the Spurs built is legitimately state of the art. There's no better place in the NBA designed to lengthen players careers.

    Durant clearly wants the Spurs as a top choice. Him staying quiet is prolly his end trying to gain favor in those pursuits. Suns have a lot of decisions to make going forward. Taking their due diligence likely due to who might fall in the draft or who might cave to a ransom.

    We will see how it plays out. Can't wait to hear from Durant after the trade and see what he thinks about the outcome whichever it may be.

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    We don't have to agree to an extension, correct? One year rental and let's see how much he wants to let the young guys grow.

    I've been repeating it but Wemby and Durant front court has the potential to be one of the greatest defensive front courts of all time.

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    We don't have to agree to an extension, correct? One year rental and let's see how much he wants to let the young guys grow.

    I've been repeating it but Wemby and Durant front court has the potential to be one of the greatest defensive front courts of all time.
    If he comes here he will get the extension. That's the whole part why he's shutting down other teams and telling them he won't sign there. He'll also give us a slight discount.

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    Try to find any game where KD matched up with the smaller of the two forwards or the opposing team. Or should I even say with the more perimeter oriented forward.
    He's still a good defender at PF, but he can't keep up with SFs.

    Let's say we get Fox/Castle/KD/John Collins/Wemby lineup and we're playing SGA/Dort/Williams/Chet/Hartenstein.
    How do you match that up?
    Collins is too slow to guard SF and too small to guard C.
    You think KD would be able to keep up with Williams?
    Or you want to put KD on Dort and have either Williams or SGA abuse Fox?
    you are making up



    KD is guarding Clarkson, SGA, Doncic, Russell and a bunch of SFs in these clips, but of course you gon somehow spin this into "he's lost all of his mobility within 1 year" for the love of Harrison Barnes. His length gives him plenty of room for error and enough ability to recover. Saying he can't guard 3s is idiotic.

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    IMO HOU still has best offer - Green likely has more value than Vassell and pick 10 > pick 14. If HOU can re-route Green to a team that values him (say BKY) and get more assets to send to PHX then I think HOU makes most sense.

    Would BKY do: Cam + Claxton + 27 for Green + 3 2nds? If so PHX Gets: Cam + Claxton + 10 + 27, HOU Gets: KD and BKY Gets: Jalen Green + 3 2nds

    Not sure Jalens value - that’s probably the fulcrum here.
    I agree Houston can put together a better package than the Spurs are willing to. KD most likely will go to Houston as Houston will give just enough to get a deal done.

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    This really feels like a no lose situation as long as Wright doesn’t budge.
    We either get KD on a sweetheart deal or we keep building around Wemby & Fox with some great developmental pieces in Castle Harper Sochan et al.

    If we really want the Durant deal we should involve a third team to make the Suns’ return more palatable.
    The Suns need to save face while eating a sandwich and to convince themselves that this is a good deal.
    The Suns really want 2FRP so maybe we trade down #14 with Brooklyn to get two later FRP in the deal or something similar to that.
    Last edited by couchman; 06-17-2025 at 09:38 AM.

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    KD is guarding Clarkson, SGA, Doncic, Russell and a bunch of SFs in these clips, but of course you gon somehow spin this into "he's lost all of his mobility within 1 year" for the love of Harrison Barnes. His length gives him plenty of room for error and enough ability to recover. Saying he can't guard 3s is idiotic.
    Now give me a highlight video of one specific game with a dozen defensive possessions against those quick players.
    Much like Lebron, he can do it for a stretch, but you can't expect him to chase players around all game long and he shouldn't do it.

    He'd be very good at PF as weakside help and an occasional 1v1 defender, there aren't many PFs in the West that can bully him.

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    you are making up



    KD is guarding Clarkson, SGA, Doncic, Russell and a bunch of SFs in these clips, but of course you gon somehow spin this into "he's lost all of his mobility within 1 year" for the love of Harrison Barnes. His length gives him plenty of room for error and enough ability to recover. Saying he can't guard 3s is idiotic.
    A proud dad moment! Look at you leaning on facts based responses Bravo to you sir!

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    Saw a good trade:

    CHI Gets: Keldon + Branham + 2 2nds (38 this year from SA + NOP 2nd next year from SA)

    PHX Gets: Vucevic + Vassell + 14 from Spurs

    SA Gets: KD

    PHX gets their vet Center who can help some now plus a good young player and good pick.

    CHI finally gets something out of Vuc in the form of Keldon + 2 2nds

    SA has to give up Dev + Keldon + 14 and 2 2nds (to dump Branham) but keeps it at that and gets KD (while adding Harper still and keeping Sochan + Castle)
    I actually like this trade and think it mostly makes sense for everybody. The question is whether the Suns like Vucevic. They probably want more splash.

    Keldon would be great for a Bulls team that needs toughness and Branham might look better in a different setting. Just feels like Phoenix needs a little more.

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    It's clear the suns were using the Wolves, Rockets, Heat to goad more assets from the spurs. Doesn't look like it worked and now KDs camp is trying to force the envelope.

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    It's clear the suns were using the Wolves, Rockets, Heat to goad more assets from the spurs. Doesn't look like it worked and now KDs camp is trying to force the envelope.
    come home kd

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    Goldsberry reporting the Suns want #2 and Castle for KD this is not a serious franchise

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    Goldsberry reporting the Suns want #2 and Castle for KD this is not a serious franchise
    AND?!?!?!?!?

    I agree, not serious in the least.

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    Goldsberry reporting the Suns want #2 and Castle for KD this is not a serious franchise
    Yeah they arent getting either.

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    Goldsberry reporting the Suns want #2 and Castle for KD this is not a serious franchise
    Kings wanted Castle too.

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    Kevin Pelton from ESPN just dropped and insider piece with information on the Spurs.

    He says the Spurs offer for Durant is Harrison Barnes, Keldon Johnson, Blake Wesley, Malaki Branham, pick 14 and 2027 hawks 1st

    He says the Spurs value Devin Vassell’s shooting and that they would like to keep him or he may be involved in another transaction.

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    He states that and alternative plan could be the Nets Cam Johnson for a similar deal but with less assets

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    He says that the Spurs would have been in the Giannis Market but that is dead for now.

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