Phoenix Suns expect to part ways with Kevin Durant this offseason. Could the Spurs be a good landing place?

[ace3g]

[TimDunkem]

Weren’t there already credible reports from national reporters that the Spurs did make an offer but the Suns weren’t satisfied?

Credible sources and ST poo poos them.

Some random dork named Gambadoro says it never happened, and ST immediately believes it.

[Mr. Body]

I don't think people know what all-in means anymore

[FkLA]

For those curious about what the Spurs’ actual offer was…turns out they (reportedly) didn’t even make one

Unwarranted arrogance from a franchise still living off of the greatness of the great Timothy Theodore Duncan smh

[DPG21920]

Durant could theoretically bust in HOU and it was still a fine risk/reward for HOU. Even if things go bad with KD HOU has a ton of firsts and lots of young talent.

[Jordan Jackson]

Spurs fans underestimated the Power of Friendship. It’s going to take a whole lot to break that up. The front office will continue to bend this roster to find a fit for those dudes.

[cd98]

For those curious about what the Spurs’ actual offer was…turns out they (reportedly) didn’t even make one

Hmmm, well one of these twitter fiends owes us an explanation of why it was reported repeatedly that they were making low ball offers. If the Suns fed that to the media, then why would San Antonio not refute it? Maybe they wanted the Rockets to give up more? I mean, I don't think it worked. They basically pulled a Scola again.

[NASpurs]

I don't really care that we missed out on KD. Like I said before, I just don't want some of carryover losers still on our team. If I have to watch Vassell summoning his inner Kobe on every ing shot next season...

Either change your game or GTFO

[cd98]

Durant could theoretically bust in HOU and it was still a fine risk/reward for HOU. Even if things go bad with KD HOU has a ton of firsts and lots of young talent.

Well the beauty for Houston is that even if he did tear an ACL or have some other significant injury, if they even extend him, they can just trade him with one of their many great picks and they got plenty to rebuild. They don't even care about Green and he was a guaranteed trade this offseason one way or another.

[DAF86]

Unwarranted arrogance from a franchise still living off of the greatness of the great Timothy Theodore Duncan smh

Meh, don't sweat it. The Suns got more from the Rockets than anything the Spurs could have offered without overpaying, so it's all good in my eyes. Unless you were willing to offer another first round pick (which would have been a mistake), the Spurs weren't beating the Rockets' offer.

[WaywardTexan]

Hmmm, well one of these twitter fiends owes us an explanation of why it was reported repeatedly that they were making low ball offers.

No offer is the lowest of balls

[Mal]

#10 > #14
Green > Vassell, even with the playoff struggles. At least he's always healthy.
Brooks > Barnes

We would've had to add another unprotected FRP or Jeremy and a bad FRP to that offer to make the Suns seriously consider it.

Just make the call, Suns had every right to tell Wright to off.

[KobesAchilles]

You're not worth telling to kill himself. You're just a whining infant, lol.

OMG the Spurs waaaaah.

You do realize the first part of your post isn’t an actual insult. Telling someone that they aren’t worth telling to kill themself is actually a good thing. The whining infant part also isn’t really an insult either. I’m past kindergarten.

I will do a better job with you. If the Spurs make the playoffs this season I will quit Spurstalk for a year. If they don’t then you quit Spurstalk for a year. Deal?

[Atl Spur]

Spurs sat and let everyone who loves talking talk; people who tend to have so much to say usually are talking to much! The spurs will make some moves I’m sure but are less pressed after the stroke of draft luck.

[MannyIsGod]

Good news. Spurs weren't really at a stage were giving up true assets for a 37 years old player made sense. They should suround the Fox/Harper/Castle/Wembanyama core with the right role players. I also wouldn't be surprised if Spurs' FO think that Vassell and Sochan belong to that right role player crew.

This is here I'm at. I do hope they move 14 for more immediate help, but unless Durant was going to take a substantial pay cut and unless the price was right then then whatever. You get Durant if it makes you a contendor the next year or two, and I just have a hard time visiualizing that as the Spurs timeline. And if through half of the season that IS what is happening becuase players have taken leaps, then you make a deal at the deadline. The Spurs are asset rich and just need to make sure they stay that way with flexibility until they are ready to make a big splash trade. The Spurs are primed for a decade of being amazing - no need to blow that up now because we lose patience.

[Mr. Body]

You do realize the first part of your post isn’t an actual insult. Telling someone that they aren’t worth telling to kill themself is actually a good thing. The whining infant part also isn’t really an insult either. I’m past kindergarten.

I will do a better job with you. If the Spurs make the playoffs this season I will quit Spurstalk for a year. If they don’t then you quit Spurstalk for a year. Deal?

I don't care if you quit or not. It's just amazing how people come on here and and whine about the Spurs needing to make big moves and shake things up when they traded for De'Aaron Fox during the season. I'm very serious about this: what the is wrong with you? Is it brain damage? Or are you, like, a bot programmed to just spit out the same no matter what happens?

[MannyIsGod]

With the addition of Harper, Keldon becomes redundant because his game revolves around attacking the rim.
He's a horrible defender and a pretty bad shooter.
Great locker room presence, but we don't need his skillset anymore.

Devin is an inconsistent chucker, but I guess our front office still has hopes that he'll get his together. In theory he's a great off the ball player and could be a decent enough defender.

Jeremy is a very good defender, potentially elite and a huge negative on offense. But he's not a negative asset until we see his extension.

This is crazy. We need multiple players with the skillset that they can get to the rim and create shots. Especially off the bench. We desprately needed more of that last year and now we have that and y'all want to revert to where we were at before. I'm not saying we should keep or trade Johnson, but the idea that we got one more guy who can get to the bucket and now we somehow have a surplus of that skill is wild.

[MannyIsGod]

Either way this coming season is not a development season. It is a make the ing playoffs or bust season. Not play-in. Not well we won 40 games so we are growing. We need to make the ing playoffs. 8 seasons in a row for not making the playoffs needs to get some people fired.

This roster needs a shake up badly. And if they want to go all in next year on the shake up and take an extra year to see that Devin still is a No-D chucker and Sochan is a pussy when it comes to shooting open 3s that’s their prerogative I guess. But don’t try to chicken your way of admitting the FO made mistakes with these players by saying well the Spurs are young and developing. Bc I’ve seen zero development from any of the pre-Wemby players.

Also this chicken excuse of we are young needs to stop too. Idgaf about how young are players are when all the other young teams with talent except ours is making the playoffs.

Our core is literally 3 lottery picks from the last 3 drafts (including 25). I think we probably DO make the playoffs this year because Wemby is that guy, but honestly saying this is a make or break season to make the playoffs is pretty insane. This is 100% a developmental season. That's 100% the reason you don't blow your wad on Durant. Wemby is what, 21? 22? And he's the oldest of the core. Yeah man, this is a developmental season but one where we probably make the playoffs. But still.

[KobesAchilles]

I don't care if you quit or not. It's just amazing how people come on here and and whine about the Spurs needing to make big moves and shake things up when they traded for De'Aaron Fox during the season. I'm very serious about this: what the is wrong with you? Is it brain damage? Or are you, like, a bot programmed to just spit out the same no matter what happens?

Am I programmed to be right all the time? Yes I am. I actually have conviction in what I say. You just continue to spout out wrong and incorrect statements at every turn which is why you won’t take the bet bc you don’t actually believe the Spurs are going to make the playoffs. You have doubt. Bc if you didn’t you would take the bet.

And you can say otherwise But once you seriously go back and look at my posts you will be hard pressed to find when I was wrong. Heck I even said the Spurs were going to get a top 4 pick this year before the season even started. I’m just tired of being right at this point.

Fox isn’t shaking up the roster. He was a nice addition but we didn’t really give up anything to get him. We still have a roster filled with flawed players. My brain damaged mind wants the Spurs to exchange those flawed players for better players. It’s a weird concept I know. I am a fan of the organization. I am not a player fan. I want the organization to be a winner again. If a player isn’t helping the organization win then I want them gone.

[LeBowen]

This is crazy. We need multiple players with the skillset that they can get to the rim and create shots. Especially off the bench. We desprately needed more of that last year and now we have that and y'all want to revert to where we were at before. I'm not saying we should keep or trade Johnson, but the idea that we got one more guy who can get to the bucket and now we somehow have a surplus of that skill is wild.

Because we kind of do.
We replaced CP3 with Fox, Castle has shown he's all about attacking the rim and that also happens to be Harper's biggest strength.
Two of them will be on the floor at all times when everyone's healthy. I don't want Keldon's random, tunnel vision drives where anything can happen at all times to be a thing.
If he can't get his shot back, there's not much use for him.

[MannyIsGod]

Preach! Everyone here rightfully hates Dillon Brooks... but Dillon's bull is at least backed up by being a better, more impactful player than Jeremy Sochan. I just hate how Jeremy is a persona before he's a basketball player. Should be the other way around. Jeremy hasn't earned it yet.

Jeremy is no where near the level of Brooks on being a distraction for his team. Yeah, Sochan does some here and there, but it's not even comparable. If for nothing else, Brooks riling up Lebron and then being banished from Memphis should prove that. Is Brooks better than Sochan now? Sure. At the same age? Well at the same age Brooks was a ROOKIE in the NBA. I don't think Sochan has much of a future on this team because his shooting, but I do think Sochan will be have a better NBA career than Devin ing Brooks when all is said and done.

[MannyIsGod]

Because we kind of do.
We replaced CP3 with Fox, Castle has shown he's all about attacking the rim and that also happens to be Harper's biggest strength.
Two of them will be on the floor at all times when everyone's healthy. I don't want Keldon's random, tunnel vision drives where anything can happen at all times to be a thing.
If he can't get his shot back, there's not much use for him.

I mean you're talking about shooting and Keldon is the best shooter out of those 4. That's not really a great thing for Keldon, and I REALLY hope Castle and Harper both pass him up in that regard this year, but its just kinda weird to say he's expendable because of his shot when he's the best one.

I'm not against a trade involving Keldon if it brings back a better fit. I'm just against the stupid sentiment that so many people around here hold that want to trade him just to get him off the team.

[MannyIsGod]

Am I programmed to be right all the time? Yes I am. I actually have conviction in what I say. You just continue to spout out wrong and incorrect statements at every turn which is why you won’t take the bet bc you don’t actually believe the Spurs are going to make the playoffs. You have doubt. Bc if you didn’t you would take the bet.

And you can say otherwise But once you seriously go back and look at my posts you will be hard pressed to find when I was wrong. Heck I even said the Spurs were going to get a top 4 pick this year before the season even started. I’m just tired of being right at this point.

Fox isn’t shaking up the roster. He was a nice addition but we didn’t really give up anything to get him. We still have a roster filled with flawed players. My brain damaged mind wants the Spurs to exchange those flawed players for better players. It’s a weird concept I know. I am a fan of the organization. I am not a player fan. I want the organization to be a winner again. If a player isn’t helping the organization win then I want them gone.

This I 100% agree with. The roster construction is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked right now and we need pieces that fit better. I just think we might do that and still end up not much better, RIGHT NOW.

[LeBowen]

I mean you're talking about shooting and Keldon is the best shooter out of those 4. That's not really a great thing for Keldon, and I REALLY hope Castle and Harper both pass him up in that regard this year, but its just kinda weird to say he's expendable because of his shot when he's the best one.

I'm not against a trade involving Keldon if it brings back a better fit. I'm just against the stupid sentiment that so many people around here hold that want to trade him just to get him off the team.

He's the least bad shooter of the bunch and his shots are the easiest.
Fox's percentage is similar on way more difficult shots.

Anyhow, I don't want to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him but because we need to improve our shooting and wing defense.
There's no denying Keldon is a horrible defender.

[Chinook]

De-prioritizing the reigning ROTY, making he and the #2 draft pick bench players, all so you can make the lineup work for Jeremy Sochan seems pretty sub-optimal to me. Opinions may vary.

The Spurs better "prioritize" Castle if he doesn't learn to be a positive player. Both Steph and Harper have to earn their minutes, and in a scenario where Sochan is a better fit in the lineup than them, I don't think one can justify not going with him. While you can develop guys on a winning team, you do that in a different way than you do on a losing team. I've expressed my interest in giving Harper a chance as the starting SG before. I still believe that. But that's because I think he has the skill-set to make it work, not because I'm worried about his status.

Trading for a star, then purposefully not playing the best guys around him would be way more sub-optimal. I don't know that opinions truly vary there.