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    I can bet $22,223 to win $100 that Flagg doesn't get picked in the top 2? Sounds like free money with only 2 days left till the draft.

    Then again I bet this guy thought betting on Virginia was free money too.


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    Final Game Theory mock draft going to start LIVE in a few moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxaZmlLOI9Q


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    spurs intel at 17:44 into video
    the weird thing is he himself says "reportedly" as if he's getting this from some other report

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    Sounds like Sam Vecenie may be getting the same intel as Finkelstein:

    Khaman Maluach | 7-1 big | 19 years old | Duke

    The Raptors have entertained discussions in a wide variety of directions, league sources indicate. They were in the mix for Kevin Durant before he was traded to the Rockets on Sunday. They could look to move down if the player they want isn’t available at No. 9. It’s worth noting as well that Maluach is a player that has become the subject of trade speculation league-wide, with several late lottery teams interested in sliding up the board to acquire him.

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    Final Game Theory mock draft going to start LIVE in a few moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxaZmlLOI9Q

    Maybe he will further drop some Spurs BIG intel

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    Found these implied odds based on betting action to be quite interesting

    As much as I am a fan of the way Jase plays, I wonder if he would have the same odds of being drafted by Phoenix if he went to literally any school other than Michigan State

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    Watching now. Vecenie is terrific

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    Smokescreen season peeps. My takes FWIW:

    - I’m pretty sure Fears worked out/met with Spurs prior to the lottery going down.
    They likely ranked him as the second best PG in the class and would’ve been a likely candidate at #8.
    Harper would appear to make that moot now.

    - I buy the intel the Spurs are looking for a big but don’t that it comes from Wemby saying he doesn’t want to play C.
    I also can’t see them taking a true project like Essengue or Beringer when it’s likely their rookie contract is coming to an end before they actually have an impact. Wouldn’t surprise me if they look at Sharpe from Brooklyn in FA/Draft trade scenarios or Mark Williams from Charlotte (who Phoenix will likely have an interest in too).

    - Rotation wise: Fox, Castle, Keldon, Vassell, Barnes, Sochan, Wemby, Harper (8 guys for those playing at home), would all figure to get significant minutes. We are likely looking at two more pieces to be factors in the rotation throughout the course of the season (one, if point two comes to fruition). I think Branham or Wesley will be given a chance to be a part of the 10 man rotation initially too based on continuity and possible Off-season improvements.

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    Found these implied odds based on betting action to be quite interesting

    The 1.3% on Harper at one is 100% betters with money to burn saying “Nico is re ed, he might just do this”

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    backup C is clearly an issue for the spurs. for the last couple of years theyve been pretty disastrous with wemby off the court. collins was a clossal bust after signing his extension. bassey has been ok-ish but hant really developed, keeps getting hurt, and is still a little undersized. they had sochan playing center a lot last year. bismack biyombo played 10 games total in 23-24 and was a free agent until the spurs signed him off the scrap heap and he started 26 games down the stretch. memu spent a lot of time at center.

    they will definitely address the position with more urgency than just re-signing bassey or something like that. but i dont think taking a project-ish player like beringer makes sense if they need the C help now. i dont think playing the long game and developing some talent over the course of a couple of years makes sense. its too much work for not enough reward. this still will be a backup player even if they pan out. if its not somebody who seems ready to contribute right away like Sorber (assuming his medicals are ok) or Maluach, its not worth a lotto pick for us, and id much rather just attack this need in FA with something more ambitious than signing some vet minimum guy. with some of the Maluach chatter, that tells me the spurs arent sold on Sorber (or its a smokescreen and they do like Sorber)

    other than reddit mock drafters, i havent seen any Fleming buzz at 14 at all, though i'd still love that pick at 14. really seems like its Carter Bryant or Cedric Coward here.

    vecenie has mocked Coward to the Spurs today as well in his final mock
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    Sam Vecenie believes Cedric Coward has worked out for the Spurs

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    Worked out/met with Spurs Tracker


    LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
    Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
    RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina
    Jeremiah Fears, Guard - Oklahoma
    John Tonje, Guard - Wisconsin
    Sean Pedulla, Guard - Ole Miss
    Thomas Sorber, Big - Georgetown
    Cam Carter, Guard - LSU
    Javon Small, Guard - West Virginia
    Obinna Anochili-Killen, Forward - Marshall
    Zeke Mayo, Guard - Kansas
    Khaman Maluach, Big - Duke
    Danny Wolf, Big - Michigan
    Egor Demin, Forward - BYU
    Dylan Harper, Guard - Rutgers
    Dylan Cardwell, Big - Auburn
    Kobe Sanders, Guard - Nevada
    Taelon Peter, Guard - Liberty
    Joan Beringer, Big - France
    Cedric Coward, Forward - Washington State


    Maxime Raynaud, Big - Stanford
    (also worked out with Wemby)


    Jalon Moore, Forward- Oklahoma
    (Tore his Achilles during workout)


    Milos Uzan, Guard - Houston
    (Returned to school)h

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    Coward, Fleming, would be my choices.

    Want no part of Beringer Essengue as theyre projects.

    Rather would get a reliable big in free agency or trade.

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    Sam Vecenie believes Cedric Coward has worked out for the Spurs
    Honestly

    A couple months ago I was all in for the team to match Wemby with another big next to him who handles the dirty work and rebound - hence why I’m super high on Sorber.

    then it dawned on me that it might be better to follow OKC’s lead and go after relentless defensive, switchable demons. This is why I’ve been high on Powell. And why I would like a Herb Jones archetype at the 4. Coward might be that archetype.

    So we will find out what route the Spurs take. Whether they will go all in on the double big/ improved rebounding team approach OR the OKC all switchable players approach. I think they will do the latter since they hired the coach from Dallas since that’s his specialty.

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    Vecnie thinks Coward is gonna grow into his body and get to 225. Wit that and the wing span, hand size, and pure shooting form, hes my 1A at 14. The fit is too perfect.

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    Honestly

    A couple months ago I was all in for the team to match Wemby with another big next to him who handles the dirty work and rebound - hence why I’m super high on Sorber.

    then it dawned on me that it might be better to follow OKC’s lead and go after relentless defensive, switchable demons. This is why I’ve been high on Powell. And why I would like a Herb Jones archetype at the 4. Coward might be that archetype.

    So we will find out what route the Spurs take. Whether they will go all in on the double big/ improved rebounding team approach OR the OKC all switchable players approach. I think they will do the latter since they hired the coach from Dallas since that’s his specialty.
    Coward has a pretty similar build to J-Dub who plays everything from 2-4 for OKC

    Height

    Coward - 6' 5.25
    J-Dub - 6' 4.5


    Wingspan

    Coward - 7' 2.25
    J-Dub - 7' 2.25


    Standing Reach

    Coward - 8'10
    J-Dub - 8' 9.5


    Weight (at combine, J-Dub has gotten bigger)

    Coward - 213
    J-Dub - 209


    coward has also been a high% 3pt shooter each year (on low volume in year 1). theres a lot to like there. red flag with him is age (will be 22 when season starts) and compe ion level. but the physical tools and player profile is there. at the very least seems like a perfect replacement for KJ off the bench, an alternative to champagnie with more physical upside

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    Honestly

    A couple months ago I was all in for the team to match Wemby with another big next to him who handles the dirty work and rebound - hence why I’m super high on Sorber.

    then it dawned on me that it might be better to follow OKC’s lead and go after relentless defensive, switchable demons. This is why I’ve been high on Powell. And why I would like a Herb Jones archetype at the 4. Coward might be that archetype.

    So we will find out what route the Spurs take. Whether they will go all in on the double big/ improved rebounding team approach OR the OKC all switchable players approach. I think they will do the latter since they hired the coach from Dallas since that’s his specialty.
    Wednesday is going to be super interesting. A lot of the rumors might be smokescreens. Wemby doesn’t want to play the 5 would be the best smokescreen of all-time. I’m not sure what rumors to believe but I think we will find out a little bit of the truth come Wednesday night. If the Spurs trade up for a big or draft one at 14 the rumors could definitely be true. Especially if the Spurs give up future draft capital. That would signal to me they did what they had to make Wemby happy. If it’s a smokescreen the Spurs could totally go wing/forward at 14 and Cedric Coward would be atop that list for me.

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    link?

    Sorry to all those who thought that we would get another shooter in the lineup when this report makes it obvious that theyre not prioritizing that in the front court. They want a bruiser in the middle and Wemby is our shooting 4. Something many have opposed for a while. Sucks doesnt it DAF86
    Of course it sucks 'cause this would mean the Spurs won't maximize their potential. Hopefully this is just made up BS and Wemby doesn't become another Anthony Davis that spends his entire career ing about playing C.

    It won't matter anyway, because when the chips are down the franchise will revert back to what works best and inevitably play Wemby at center.

    In any case, I have always said I'm not against pairing Wemby with a frontcourt player that can matchup with the Jokics and Senguns of this World. What I don't get is why you are so bent on that player not being able to shoot threes.

    A player that takes on the physical beating of matching up with opposing centers, while staying on the wing on offense and provide spacing. Can we all agree that's the type of player we should get and not a guy that will just stand below the rim, ing up the spacing?
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    Have the courage to draft a Coward

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    Have the courage to draft a Coward
    7'2 wingspan with a silky jumper. He's my #1 target at 14.

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    Coward has a pretty similar build to J-Dub who plays everything from 2-4 for OKC

    Height

    Coward - 6' 5.25
    J-Dub - 6' 4.5


    Wingspan

    Coward - 7' 2.25
    J-Dub - 7' 2.25


    Standing Reach

    Coward - 8'10
    J-Dub - 8' 9.5


    Weight (at combine, J-Dub has gotten bigger)

    Coward - 213
    J-Dub - 209


    coward has also been a high% 3pt shooter each year (on low volume in year 1). theres a lot to like there. red flag with him is age (will be 22 when season starts) and compe ion level. but the physical tools and player profile is there. at the very least seems like a perfect replacement for KJ off the bench, an alternative to champagnie with more physical upside
    I’m less focused on size and more focused on lateral quickness. My eyes were glued to the screen trying to figure out what makes OKC’s scheme work so well and it’s just that their players are so quick on their feet to get to their spots. Getting beat by their man was so rare. They are so much quicker than Vassell for example, and you’d look at Vassell and think that his build looks like he should be quick on the floor but he’s not. I’m comparing tape between Carter Bryant and Coward and Carter doesn’t move like he should out there. His saving grace is his length and size but I think I’ve seen enough of these types to know that it doesn’t guarantee being a consistently good defender. Coward moves better than him, and his extra length does make me believe he’d actually serve a purpose on defense, and that’s why I’d much prefer him over Bryant. I like to point to Isaiah Roby when it comes to these archetypes and look at how one could be blessed with almost perfect physical tools yet failed as an NBA player. To me, the missing ingredient is just their lack of quickness (and sometimes it’s poor defensive IQ) is why they weren’t successful. I’m rambling.

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    Ok Spurs Fans. I have reviewed the draft board and picked the best players for Our Spurs to solidify a Championship.

    With number #2.

    Draft:

    5. Utah Jazz – Ace Bailey – Wing – Rutgers
    Bailey’s workout process (or lack thereof) has been truly bizarre, and with the amount of misdirection surrounding his camp, combined with a tight-lipped Jazz front office, it’s difficult to discern what interest there is from either side in this hypothetical marriage.

    Ace Bailey 39 points on 16-29 FG (4–8 3pt)
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    — Greg Finberg (@GregFinberg) June 20, 2025


    Even before this rumored slide, Bailey was a mercurial player at Rutgers, recording gaudy scoring numbers, while racking up losses, and head-scratching lowlights.

    However, the oversized wing has long been considered a top-three player in this class, a narrative that only seems to have changed in the last week due to mishandling the pre-draft process.

    With number #14. Trade UP as needed to draft:

    12. Chicago Bulls – Thomas Sorber – Center – Georgetown
    The Bulls had the 19th-ranked defense in the NBA, and the 20th-ranked offense last season, meaning they could use an upgrade on either side of the ball.

    Luckily, Sorber does a little bit of both due to his soft touch around the rim, shooting upside, and strong steals and blocks numbers.

    Sorber has terrific feel on both ends, and could be a great big man to pair with Matas Buzelis in future seasons.


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    I am warming up to Coward. I felt at first the Spurs should go with someone taller but he is essentially just a slightly shorter version then Bryant with a bigger wingspan.

    My order would be Bryant, Essengue, Coward, Fleming, Sorber, Beringer

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    It’s awfully quite in the NBA news cycle, honestly I don’t position matters, spurs should draft whoever they feel is the best prospect. A part of me has wanted a rim running big but we have others needs as well

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    I don’t think Essengue or Beringer should be considered at 14 at all

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