Should the Spurs Trade for John Collins?

[Dverde]

So the guy is so good he played in 40 of 82 games and they had to shut him down to trade him then no team was willing to pay their ask at the trading deadline because Jazz value him so much that they are trying to trade him again you Collins Stans are so funny. If he is so great he should opt out and let half of the NBA come do their presentations on accepting a new contract from them. But he didn’t he opted in because he knows no one will overpay him like he was overpaid last time. You had me last time with the “you don’t understand Otto Porter is actually really good”…now it’s John Collins…, it doesn’t pass the sniff test. He’s a serviceable player but the no way would I give up good assets to trade for him…nope nope nope.

[spurraider21]

So the guy is so good he played in 40 of 82 games and they had to shut him down to trade him then no team was willing to pay their ask at the trading deadline because Jazz value him so much that they are trying to trade him again you Collins Stans are so funny. If he is so great he should opt out and let half of the NBA come do their presentations on accepting a new contract from them. But he didn’t he opted in because he knows no one will overpay him like he was overpaid last time. You had me last time with the “you don’t understand Otto Porter is actually really good”…now it’s John Collins…, it doesn’t pass the sniff test. He’s a serviceable player but the no way would I give up good assets to trade for him…nope nope nope.

people are suggesting trading keldon johnson and second round picks for him. nobody is saying he's incredible.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don’t follow the Utah jazz and jerk off to John Collins highlights. So the guy who gets hurt got hurt and you want to trade for him since he’s all healed up now

"i dOn'T wAtCh aNyThInG bUt I kNoW eVeRyThInG"

he wasn't injured. Man you're slow

So the guy is so good he played in 40 of 82 games and they had to shut him down to trade him then no team was willing to pay their ask at the trading deadline because Jazz value him so much that they are trying to trade him again you Collins Stans are so funny. If he is so great he should opt out and let half of the NBA come do their presentations on accepting a new contract from them. But he didn’t he opted in because he knows no one will overpay him like he was overpaid last time. You had me last time with the “you don’t understand Otto Porter is actually really good”…now it’s John Collins…, it doesn’t pass the sniff test. He’s a serviceable player but the no way would I give up good assets to trade for him…nope nope nope.

So you think Keldon Johnson and Malaki Branham are great players?

[objective]

jesus what made him age so badly he looks 35

He did have to stop juicing

[Dverde]

people are suggesting trading keldon johnson and second round picks for him. nobody is saying he's incredible.

Does anyone not want to trade Keldon and second rounder picks? That’s a yes simply that Collins is an expiring contract. Utah isn’t going to accept that. You’d have to give them more than that.

[LakerHater]

Didnt he sign a huge contract?

[Death In June]

Keldon / matching salary and next years pick swap. Id also be willing to part with Devon or Barnes instead of Keldon (in that order).

[mo7888]

Keldon / matching salary and next years pick swap. Id also be willing to part with Devon or Barnes instead of Keldon (in that order).

Huge overpay imo

[scott]

Plot twist: Spurs re-acquire Zach Collins

[tbdog]

Don't get the love for Collins here. I think he is fine. But moving forward, 20mil plus for him? Someone that cannot play center defensively and is well do ented that he cannot play center. Much rather have Gathord for same price.

[bevo]

Would like him, but really depends on cost.

[Mikesatx]

Seems like Atlanta couldn’t wait to offload him after they signed him to his extension. My impression was he played well for his contract and once he got paid didn’t give much of a . I was super high on getting Lauri last year and worry he might be the same type of guy.

[DesignatedT]

I think he’s a pretty low BBIQ guy. His splits are nice but there’s something off here with this guy.

[spurraider21]

Keldon / matching salary and next years pick swap. Id also be willing to part with Devon or Barnes instead of Keldon (in that order).

If they really wanted token first round capital I’d offer them a swap with our 2027 hawks pick (not that it would be exercised)

[spurraider21]

Plot twist: Spurs re-acquire Zach Collins

The wrong Collins again!

[Death In June]

If they really wanted token first round capital I’d offer them a swap with our 2027 hawks pick (not that it would be exercised)

You’re right. I forgot for a moment he is on the Jazz. I can see how the swap holds zero value.

[Chinook]

I don't think anybody here want him as a back up C. If we trade for Collins it's to play him as the starting PF next to Wemby.

That was the impression I got. My thing is that

a) if the Spurs were to invest heavily into a more traditional-big PF, that PF needs to be able to play center. Backup C is a much bigger need than folks seem to think, and that center likely doesn't have the skill-set that makes playing a traditional PF possible in the first place. The Spurs have too many wings and forwards to try to play Wemby and a specific big the bulk of their minutes together. Sochan and Johnson and/or Barnes are all PFs who'd get minutes. No matter what STers want, the Spurs aren't going to severely limit those guys so they can play a situational lineup big minutes every night.

b) Collins might not actually warrant a starting spot and the minutes that come with that. He's not a bad player, but if it comes to putting the best lineup on the floor, he might not be part of that. If he's not part of that, or if he can only be a PF in that lineup for part of his minutes, then he HAS to be able to play center to take advantage of the Wemby-less minutes on the court. It doesn't have to be every game for it to matter. If the pairing doesn't work against 10/29 teams, that can still be almost half the schedule and multiple playoff series where Collins apparently can't play because he can only play next to Wemby, and the match-up doesn't let him do that.

So yeah, that's why I'd much rather the Spurs approach it the other way, where the aim for a backup center with the hopes they can play with Wemby when the need arises and just run a modern PF next to Wemby most of the time. I wouldn't be particularly interested in trading for Collins unless I felt like he was going to be the backup center.

[scott]

If John Collins shooting 40% on 4 3PA/GM isn’t a “modern PF”, then I don’t know what qualifies as one

[LeBowen]

I feel like most people who don't want Collins don't realize how few options are out there if we assume we don't want to send multiple FRPs out.

[SPURt]

What’s the price? I voted no because the price would be too steep for a player not on the Spurs timeline that isn’t going to be the difference in winning a championship for this team

[alex40214]

I'm all for it to replace KJ/HB, if we can sign him short-term to something like 60~75/3yr, not hindering Castles contract.

[objective]

After his rookie year, he's started 97% of the games he's played. I think it's odd if people aren't convinced he's a starter.

[Mnky]

Belongs in the washed up role player thread tbh

That thread belonged in the off season thread.

[pad300]

I think we need someone who can play 4 beside Wemby (with Wemby at the 5), and be useful at both ends of the floor.

Sochan could be that guy, but he needs a 3 to do it.

Otherwise, we need to bring someone in. John Collins is a pretty attractive option.

[John B]

They should but knowing the Spurs, they would rather let Sochan proved himself