View Poll Results: Will Trump extend the 90 day deadline?

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  • I'm an idiot and think USA can negotiate and sign 90 trade treaties in next two weeks

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  1. #76
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    Still trying to make cringe taco meme a thing.

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    Still trying to make cringe taco meme a thing.
    He keeps doing it. We'll keep saying it.

    Tough , tough guy.

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    Why are you not citing Reed Smoot or Willis Hawley?

    A great idea is timeless, isn't it?
    I'm not advocating for 20% tariffs on all countries during a Great Depression. There's an optimal rate that is much lower and that our economy can easily handle.

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    I'm not advocating for 20% tariffs on all countries during a Great Depression. There's an optimal rate that is much lower and that our economy can easily handle.
    What were their reasons for wanting tariffs?

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    What were their reasons for wanting tariffs?
    Why? The economy and the financial system were in ruins. Trade policy wasn't going to quickly change that.

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    Why? The economy and the financial system were in ruins. Trade policy wasn't going to quickly change that.
    the economy and the financial system were in ruin when?

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    Why? The economy and the financial system were in ruins. Trade policy wasn't going to quickly change that.
    What were their reasons for wanting tariffs though?

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    the economy and the financial system were in ruin when?
    Stock market had collapsed in 1929 and set it in motion. Early 1930s was in ruins but not from trade policy, lol.

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    What were their reasons for wanting tariffs though?
    To protect from foreign compe ion but they went too far with rates and timed it terribly.

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    To protect from foreign compe ion
    Oh.
    but they went too far with rates and timed it terribly.
    Did they think the rates and timing were wrong at the time?

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    Oh.

    Did they think the rates and timing were wrong at the time?
    It's interesting how you don't ask anything about India or EU tarriff rates? Did you know a US auto import into the EU is hit with a 10% tariff? A big US motorcycle like a Harley is hit with like a 40-50% tariff entering India.

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    No, you have a really bad understanding of tariffs.

    We will still import some things that are tariffed but it will also make our own industry more compe ive and boost domestic industry. Still, we're not going to make EVERYYTHING on our own, so there will be tarriff revenue coming in.

    I think the reason you have such a bad understanding is because you work backwards from "trump supports it so it is bad" to reasons why you think it might be bad that don't really hold water.
    Tariffs make domestic industry more compe ive on domestic market, it makes them less compe ive on foreign markets (which one is bigger?). Especially if you do something stupid, like tariff everything (and make materials and components more expensive for businesses that need them). It can also takes years to spin up factories, let alone entire industries. And Trump's policies just made it a lot harder to do so, because of all the uncertainties and hostility towards foreigners.

    Targeted tariffs can be a useful tool, but generally work worse than subsidies as the effects are more unpredictable and often cause backlash from targeted country (which is why it's stupid to target entire world at once). They will cause a drop in consumption though, which i guess is not that bad as long as your entire current economy is not consumption oriented.

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    It's interesting how you don't ask anything about India or EU tarriff rates? Did you know a US auto import into the EU is hit with a 10% tariff?
    So we put a 25% tariff on their cars?

    Is that better?

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    My 401k keeps soaring.
    Last edited by DarrinS; 06-27-2025 at 11:24 PM.

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    So we put a 25% tariff on their cars?

    Is that better?
    We have 10% on UK car imports as a result of the trade deal. That's likely where we end up with the EU if we get a trade deal.

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    We have 10% on UK car imports as a result of the trade deal. That's likely where we end up with the EU if we get a trade deal.
    It already was 10%.

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    My 401k keeps souring.
    Why are you so miserable?

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    Tariffs make domestic industry more compe ive on domestic market, it makes them less compe ive on foreign markets (which one is bigger?).
    Germany sells like 2x or 3x more cars to the US than the US sells to Germany, and it's been like that in previous years despite like 4x higher EU import tariffs than US import tariffs.

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    Why are you so miserable?
    Your side is miserable. That's why you live here.

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    Germany sells like 2x or 3x more cars to the US than the US sells to Germany, and it's been like that in previous years despite like 4x higher EU import tariffs than US import tariffs.
    What are you saying is the EU tariff on US cars?

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    Your side is miserable. That's why you live here.
    But why are you miserable?

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    But why are you miserable?
    I'm loving everything that's happening

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    I'm loving everything that's happening
    Why are you constantly ing?

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    Still trying to make cringe taco meme a thing.
    Right, that makes you cringe but not Trump. Cringe priorities.

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    It already was 10%.
    In previous years it was 2.5%. Trump upped it to 10% and has threatened to go higher for the EU unless they reach a deal. So I'm hoping we end at 10% with a deal.

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