I don't think it's an either/or situation here. Tell me this - do you honestly see Sabonis bringing 50 million/year value in a scaled down role? Because the entire basis of his impact right now (which, by the way is way below what his counting stats would suggest), is based on being an elite offensive rebounder and having high usage as a hub. He has very few ancillary skills if he's not force-fed high usage/time of possession. The alternative to this is you play him in his exact role that he has in Sacramento and use Wemby as a 7'5" Miles Turner, which would also be a colossal waste.
My main beef with guys like Sabonis (and Giddey for that matter) on this team is that you already have your high-usage high-impact guys on your team so that there's no room for another guy who depends on usage to get his impact, especially when he is getting paid the way he is exclusively due to his counting stats. What you need are low usage high impact guys, and those are guys who are generally paid less and generate value not from counting stats but from defensive versality and spacing. Even in your example where you get an exclusive vertical spacer and rim protector, it's entirely possible that his impact is comparable to Sabonis while getting a fraction of the cost.
Which are the complementary players? From the names you dropped as the core I suposse: Vassell, Sochan, Keldon, Champagnie, Kornet, Barnes. 3 out of those 6 players are bad to complete non-shooters. That isn't "most", that is half the players. There absolutely needs to be a change there.
if the Spurs want to be a playoff team they need to package Keldon + Branham for a starting 4
Do y'all think that the Spurs have an offer for John Collins tendered?
I'd think they have at least kicked the tires on him. I'd guess that several teams are working on deals for him.
On another weird note, I'm semi-surprised that the Spurs haven't added a superfluous point guard to the rotation. That seemed like a Pop thing.
If Joker is still playing at his elite level, the Nuggets should come out of the west. Tim Hardaway is a good bench piece. Maybe one more shooter wouldn’t hurt though. Still some good deals out there for the Nuggets.
I don't think the Spurs have much interest in John Collins tbh. There's never been smoke between the two and Collins has been made available many times over the years.
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Drew Eubanks is being waived by the Los Angeles Clippers and is signing a one-year deal with the Sacramento Kings, per Shams Charania.
It leaves a hole at the PF-ish position, but man Duncan Robinson could drive some jersey sales, probably on par with 2nd round cash considerations, right?
If he signed here he would have to put his full name on the back of the jersey. "DUNCAN ROBINSON"
What the are Kings doing
I like what Denver did, they provided Jokic with depth and shooting.
Exactly. #51?
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If you ask me they haven't even called Ainge
I really don't think they're interested tbh, or it would've happened already. I honestly think they're content with Barnes, Sochan, and Bryant being our 4 rotation this season. I wish they were bc I think Collins would be a considerable upgrade at the 4 this season on an expiring, but PATFO seem comfortable with what we have so I think they're done for this offseason.
Also possible. Considering how ridiculous his reported trade demands were for Lauri last year when Brian reached out, they may have soured on speaking to he and Zanic altogether. Ainge really is an annoying prick, always has been. More than likely though, they're just content with what they have and therefor aren't interested in Collins.
#51: "I'm one better than David!"
#49: "I'm not quite as good as David."
#71: "I'm as good as both Tim and David combined!"
#29: "Robinson minus Duncan = some residual shooting ability."
Devin was like the fifth best shooter on the team last year behind Unc, CP3, Champagnie, and Mamu and Champagnie actually gives you some defense for 1/9th the price. Would you rather have Vassell or be able to use the MLE to get good players who will contribute? Because if they do both it's gonna be hard to re-sign Castle and Harper, especially with the cap not going up as much as expected from the TV/streaming deal. There is so much opportunity cost tied up in Vassell's contract and five years in he is who he is: a loser from the tank core that should probably be churned. The Spurs already waited too long to get anything useful for Keldon when it was clear he didn't work here and I don't want to see them go down the same road with Vassell.
Collins is cheap right now, I just don't think the Spurs are looking to make a trade for an upgrade
CP3 and Mamu are gone.
We've got time to trade him tbh. We don't have to decide on Castle/Harper for another few years. I honestly think MATFO betting that he ups his value this upcoming season is worth a try.
I have Keldon out of the rotation and it's complicate to have a backup C that will both shoot 3's and protect the rim.
Let's say Spurs end up playing with a 9 players rotation of:
Fox/Castle
Harper/Castle
Vassell/Bryant
Sochan/Barnes
Wembanyama/Kornet
Aside of trading Sochan, it isn't easy to fix the shooting of that group.
And, hopefully, Sochan best shooting form will translate into better shooting numbers.
Since I just saw Duncan's age, I finally looked up if his name was based on TD and D-Rob, but as expected, since he was born before they played together, it was just a coincidence. I always thought (without ever looking it up until now) that his parents were Spurs fans or something.
Still, his name was made for the Spurs.
Duncan Robinson to Detroit
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