Spurs aren’t seemingly interested in any way of smartly improving on paper right now even with clear log jams and lots of money allocated to someone (whether its Keldon or Dev) that will have role reduced
JJJ needs surgery (?) for a turf toe injury he just sustained off-site…ouch.
They could have probably gotten him in the Dejounte trade if they really wanted him, couldn't they? If they could have gotten him then and passed, they likely had no interest now too.
This may be crazy, but the denizens of some fan website may just be wrong.
They weren't going to play Sexton anymore, and they could see themselves playing Nurkic. The Jazz probably want to be facilitators more than buyers or sellers. Collins' huge contract could offer relief to a team selling in order to save on future salary during the season. That's why they'd want to keep him. Nurkic can play a similar role. I'd expect both to be bought out by the deadline if not moved earlier.
I don't think the Spurs want to keep Barnes if they don't think he's a starting PF. They'd want to move him to a team where he could keep his streak going. But even if they're willing to be the team that breaks the streak, I don't think they should want to keep him if they intend to get Collins. There's really not a place in the rotation for him outside of the starting PF. There aren't a ton of forward minutes, and there a many guys who could get them, including Wemby and Castle/Vassell. As end-of-bench depth, sure. But if they get Collins, Sochan and Bryant should be getting the bulk of the remaining minutes, with Keldon and/or Champagnie likely holding Bryant's place for the year.i think you may be right about what utah would be willing to accept, but i dont think the spurs would want to deal barnes for collins either. barnes is expiring as well, and i could see the spurs wanting to re-sign him as affordable depth.
only thing i could come up with on the nurkic thing is they are hedging for a Kessler trade... so buying Nurkic to help them sell Kessler, i dont know. but the jazz should be acting like the pre-wemby spurs did... any reasonable player (like kessler) should be extended. they shouldnt be picky and looking to trade kessler unless theyre getting a haul
as for the barnes thing... he was starting at SF early in the year with sochan at the 4. i dont know that he was much more effective at the 4 than he was a 3. but at the 4, his poor rebounding and lack of weakside rim protection (not his fault, its not what id expect from barnes) becomes a problem. if they want to roll with vassell (or castle, however you want to sort them) as the starting 3, the notion of starting barnes just for the sake of starting him seems like poor thinking. imo they either have to take the leap with sochan (or eventually Bryant), or go get somebody who could start. collins makes a lot of sense as he's expiring anyway, but if Utah is insisting they want no part of Keldon (and the spurs are unwilling to attach second round picks), then yeah i dno. market is pretty dried up.
We only got CP3 cause we overpaid and promised him minutes. Paul is still a free agent right now because no team is willing to give him 11 million and guarantee he is a starter.
We only got Barnes because the Kings struck out on everything and had to settle for Derozan. If the Kings actually signed the players they wanted to we never actually get Barnes.
Neither of these moves had anything to do with the number 8 pick.
Wow, Memphis will have some adjustments to make. They could aid and abet the Spurs rising up one more spot in the West if JJJ is out for an extended period.
Does Sacramento have some deal with the League to just roll over and become a patsy? What explanation does anyone have for their moves?
NOP, Jazz and PDX right there with them. Whatever a team's problem is, I'm pretty sure that Hansen Yang is not the answer.
Crazy draft and offseason so far. Houston and Denver may challenge OKC come playoff time. If the Spurs stay healthy and the new staff and players come together well, I'd think that we just might end up with a winning record or very close to it for the first time in years.
Windhorst or one of his guests mentioned the Rockets might have to waive a player, and someone suggested Jacque (sp?) Landale. If so, might he be a decent depth piece now that Mamu is apparently gone?
I think if the Spurs ended next season with "close to" a winning record i.e. below 0.500 record, it would almost certainly mean that they are not a play-in team. If that were the case, assuming relative health for year 3 Wemby and Fox, even the most ardent supporters of the front office would probably call it an abject failure and there would be much greater scrutiny from the national media while this forum burns itself to the ground
Pretty ty list. spurs are probably done unless there is a trade, can't see the use in most of the remaining guys
IMO he's totally serviceable as a third string big if they don't want to keep Biyombo.
I wonder if we can get in on the potential trade with Bulls and Warriors - Kuminga for Colby White? It looks like they need a third team to facilitate the trade.
GRIZZ are a team we should be jumping next year..Both JJJ and Edey are possibly out for first month of season. they lost Bane and Morant regressing and in-and-out of lineup act ruining whatever chemistry they're building..
Makes sense for the Warriors and the Bulls plan is who the knows.
They also fired their coach who was actually good.
Bulls need a defensive Center and vertical spacer for Giddey they should send Colby White and filler to the Mavericks for Gafford. White is a combo guard and should be able to hold down the 1 spot while Kyrie rehabs then move to the 6th man scorer role.
I don’t even know why the Bulls want Kuminga with Williams, Buzelis and Essengue at the forward spots but they could give the Warriors Vucevic + draft capital to get it done.
Goodness gracious, Denver has been absolutely masterful with their roster.
Come on Spurs...getting so close!
The Texas triangle is going to be a murderers row next year.
Warriors overplaying their hand with Kuminga to a degree that is making Ainge feel better about himself
Mike Dunlevey Jr, Danny Ainge, Brian Wright… all guys who leave the steak on the grill just a little too long
Could have had Lauri for him and picks and now both franchises screwed up. They can probably get Kuminga down in price because no one wants him.
Kuminga is nothing more than Keldon Johnson on a small dose of steroids.
Which team needs a 6’6 power forward that shoots 33% from 3, has an assist to turnover ratio of just over 1, is an average rebounder and mediocre defender? No one by the sounds of it.
That keldon Johnson steak was at well done in 2023 and it’s still on the grill.
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