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    Yeah, I would have be super happy with that package from NOP . It sucks in more ways than one that Atlanta took it as it could affect the 2027 pick from ATL if they get a good player out of it.

    It's only one game, but do you think the Spurs should have went with Thomas Sorber instead over CB?
    Thomas Sorber isn’t playing in summer league so hard for us to gauge but based on presti drafting and the players they did bring to summer league, quite possibly. For example Ajay Mitc looks like Tony Parker in summer league and topic looks like a future star with a little Ginobili in his game. Even second round pick Barnhizer looks ing amazing, like the next Dort type stud. He absolutely dominated the boards and looked nba strong.

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    The reason I mention Sorber is because he can play PF/C which I think was a bigger need for the Spurs. Carter has more upside, but maybe Sorber was the safer pick.
    I know he's out injured/recovering still, but was more looking at the position he plays.

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    The reason I mention Sorber is because he can play PF/C which I think was a bigger need for the Spurs. Carter has more upside, but maybe Sorber was the safer pick.
    I know he's out injured/recovering still, but was more looking at the position he plays.
    I think at the end of the day spurs thought Bryant was the best available player and I agree. We just have to be more patient with him as many on here are saying. Rather not draft for positional need. We still need talent.

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    Jumping to conclusions after 1 summer league game shows how idiotic some on here are lmao same crew that freaked out when wemby struggled in his games, let the kid get his feet wet before you start calling him Primo
    That's just revisionism. Primo had some really nice summer league games, really nice, showed flashes. We have no idea how he would have developed. You're acting like he was drafted knowing what would happen. But, yes, Carter Bryant and Primo are exceptionally similar in terms of how much they played and the limited impacts they had as freshmen and how they were drafted with being hopeful for the future.

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    Spurstalk freaking out after one summer league game? Shocking! You all are the most manic depressive group of posters on the internet

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    The biggest hot take after one summer league game I’ve seen so far is that we already blew the draft by drafting Harper instead of edgecomb. Edgecomb looks like prime Westbrook after one game apparently.

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    I appreciated the confidence Carter was shooting with. That's very important.

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    Edgecomb looks like prime Westbrook after one game apparently.
    He indeed does.
    28 points on 27 shots.

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    That's just revisionism. Primo had some really nice summer league games, really nice, showed flashes. We have no idea how he would have developed. You're acting like he was drafted knowing what would happen. But, yes, Carter Bryant and Primo are exceptionally similar in terms of how much they played and the limited impacts they had as freshmen and how they were drafted with being hopeful for the future.
    Not to mention Primo was always a strange pick. No one had him projected as a lottery pick. Most didn't have him in the first round and some didn't even have him on their draft boards. Most people agreed on Carter Bryant going somewhere in the lottery. Primo was slightly undersized and not very athletic. He was not explosive and lacked when it came to creating his own shot. And he was not a great defender. Bryant has the size, athleticism, and moves like an NBA wing. I was never a fan of the Primo pick bc most of what I listed was never going to get much better. Carter Bryant might be a bit green, Primo was green AND he was undersized and not a plus athlete and struggled to create his own shot and he wasn't aggressive. So he had plenty working against him. Primo is just a lazy comparison but you're right the one thing they have in common is their college impacts.

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    lol

    rookie was ok and he will get better and better - I doubt he spends much time in the G league - if at all -

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    Not to mention Primo was always a strange pick. No one had him projected as a lottery pick. Most didn't have him in the first round and some didn't even have him on their draft boards. Most people agreed on Carter Bryant going somewhere in the lottery. Primo was slightly undersized and not very athletic. He was not explosive and lacked when it came to creating his own shot. And he was not a great defender. Bryant has the size, athleticism, and moves like an NBA wing. I was never a fan of the Primo pick bc most of what I listed was never going to get much better. Carter Bryant might be a bit green, Primo was green AND he was undersized and not a plus athlete and struggled to create his own shot and he wasn't aggressive. So he had plenty working against him. Primo is just a lazy comparison but you're right the one thing they have in common is their college impacts.
    Primo had good size for a guard and was handling some point duties for an Alabama team as a freshman. Like, literally he was more important to Alabama than Bryant was for Arizona. They both had completely underwhelming stats.

    Y'all are just ing wrong on this one.

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    If you guys are referring to my posts, it honestly feels like you’ve never read a game thread before. Posts in a game thread are live reactions and observations based on that specific game. That’s the whole point. If I say a player looks bad tonight, I’m talking about tonight. And if I say something like “he’s gonna struggle this season,” that’s obviously assuming the performance we’re seeing continues. It’s not a prophecy.

    Next game, Carter Bryant could drop 30 and look amazing, and I’d probably post something like “he’s an All-Star in the making.” That wouldn’t contradict what I said tonight. It would just reflect what happened in that game. That’s how game threads work. Not every comment is a career verdict.
    Wasn’t responding to your posts. I never even read any of them. If I recall, I generally like most of your posts.

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    That's just revisionism. Primo had some really nice summer league games, really nice, showed flashes. We have no idea how he would have developed. You're acting like he was drafted knowing what would happen. But, yes, Carter Bryant and Primo are exceptionally similar in terms of how much they played and the limited impacts they had as freshmen and how they were drafted with being hopeful for the future.
    Primo just got cut much in the same way hundreds of players do, if he didn't manage to work himself back in the league you can't just it up to what happened, it's far more likely he was just not good enough to begin with, as EVERYONE but the Spurs thought.

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    Primo had good size for a guard and was handling some point duties for an Alabama team as a freshman. Like, literally he was more important to Alabama than Bryant was for Arizona. They both had completely underwhelming stats.

    Y'all are just ing wrong on this one.
    Stats are irrelevant to a player’s draft projection. There is a consensus as to where most players are slotted in the draft. Primo was a consensus second rounder. Bryant was a consensus top 10. Primo was a BIG reach. Carter fell to us. They are not the same, no matter how many times you say it.

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    why don't we play the Bulls so we can see Bryant vs. Primo?

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    Primo just got cut much in the same way hundreds of players do, if he didn't manage to work himself back in the league you can't just it up to what happened, it's far more likely he was just not good enough to begin with, as EVERYONE but the Spurs thought.
    No. Primo missed about two to three years of very key and constant development. I don't really get why people just constantly get this wrong. They think:

    1) the Spurs drafted him knowing he would be exposing himself
    2) that development doesn't matter at all

    Both are false. It's just retrograde misunderstanding of anything going on.

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    Stats are irrelevant to a player’s draft projection. There is a consensus as to where most players are slotted in the draft. Primo was a consensus second rounder. Bryant was a consensus top 10. Primo was a BIG reach. Carter fell to us. They are not the same, no matter how many times you say it.
    Primo was definitely not a consensus second rounder. He was coming up the boards and there was movement that other teams were very interested. Maybe if the Spurs don't take him, he goes in the 20s. Yes, Murphy and Sengun were the better picks, but it's just straight up lying to say he was a SRP.

    Look, y'all, you're just rewriting history and trying to cope with Bryant, making him out to be better than he is.

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    And, ultimately, I don't care where Carter Bryant was slotted in this year's projections. End of lottery sounds about right. Anything earlier was crazy. And, yes, absolutely is he similar to Primo in that they are very, very far from where you hope they go.

    Any other argument is missing what my point is here. Yeah, Primo didn't develop. So the what. That's not what I'm talking about. They're both coming off freshmen NCAA years where they were not very good and had big problems, but promising things. And, yes, Primo did have more duties for Alabama. Full stop.

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    It's rewriting history to say Bryant was mocked as high as 10?

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    He was in #10 to #15 range in most mocks, I'd say at that point it becomes about fit more than BPA, especially for a projected role player like Bryant.

    There's nothing wrong with the pick. Our guard situation is projected to be among the best in the league for both near and long term future, drafting a big has limited upside because we won't be playing with two bigs and we'll need a lot of 3-D wings over the course of Wemby's career.

    Bryant has legit size, good athleticism and a functional jumpshot. We don't need him to become the next nephew, we'll be happy if he develops into that Green/Bowen role.

    The only thing I maybe regret is that Hawks took the Pelicans offer right before us, that was massive value added for them.

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    Spurstalk freaking out after one summer league game? Shocking! You all are the most manic depressive group of posters on the internet
    Yeah but we were lectured on it that it is a game thread so grown man can act like a teenage girl with his feelings everywhere.
    ridiculous the way some are acting. And to excuse it by saying it’sa game thread I am allowed to act like this??? Ha ha

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    I'm sure Bryant will be fine. His ceiling doesn't have to be that high to hit and the Spurs don't need him to be the best player in this draft. If he is a good defender and he hits threes, they will be thrilled, even if he is never an all star. He reminds me a little of Robert Horry, though obviously he hasn't hit the clutch shots. I just mean that in terms of game. I don't think Bryant will ever be an all star, but a key contributing starter, yes, I think he can be that. He has the right size and athleticism to hit as a 3 and D player. That's why he was drafted in the lottery.

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    sigh primo was developed as a ball dominate pass first guard who could maybe shoot or use strength to get an advantage. IDK if the spurs ever said what they saw him has, but he has more in common with point sochan than bryant. Bryant is competing with SF Sochan which is its own can of worms. Castle is a realized version of the primo dream i think. Big guard who can bully his way to the rim. Obv castle is far far more athletic than primo. Primo needed like 4 years to be a realized project i think. Without wemby the tank would go on long enough to allow it.


    I think on balance primo might have been better than branham and westly. They each have advantages but primo was closer to a starting player than those guys ever were. granted it was on a tank team

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    Look, y'all, you're just rewriting history and trying to cope with Bryant, making him out to be better than he is.
    Rarely seen such blatant projection, holy . Primo pick was a shock to basically everyone, Bryant pick was chalk. There is no other reality and that's all I and most are getting at.

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    No. Primo missed about two to three years of very key and constant development. I don't really get why people just constantly get this wrong. They think:

    1) the Spurs drafted him knowing he would be exposing himself
    2) that development doesn't matter at all

    Both are false. It's just retrograde misunderstanding of anything going on.
    Primo didn't lose two to three years, less than one year passed between the moment he was released form the Spurs in October 2022 and when he was picked up by the Clippers on a two way contract in September 2023, which is less than the time lots of players miss every year due to injury or other reasons, with him being able to train and improve his skills and con ioning all of that time. To assume his career was derailed by the situation you'd need to prove 1) he was on his way to having a successful NBA career and 2) it was that particular event that stopped that from happening. Players survive worse situations all the time, provided they are talented enough. He just wasn't good enough to begin with at anything in particular.

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