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    yoni floods the zone with new conspiracy theories.

    He's spiraling.

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    I just need to know why yoni and everyone yoni worships have to lie about literally everything.



    https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2016164981281325153

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    You know yoni decided to declare victory after Laura Ingraham and Bill O'Reilly told him to last night.



    https://x.com/TheRickWilson/status/2016202136841826448

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    It just keeps getting better...




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    Any thoughts on why Dems are losing their minds now?

    Because your secret police are murdering US citizens in the street.

    Hope this helps.

    My question for you is why do you lie about everything?

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    More of Democrats being for it before they were against it.


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    yoni in spam mass coward pussy tweet mode. Flailing.

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    These are people in the country legally without criminal records who did nothing wrong. lil pussy yoni puts people on ignore to stay in his comfort bubble.



    https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status...04110445219865

    This is wrong. yoni will never address anything like this.

    He's a ing coward.

    On an anonymous message board.

    lol

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    another conspiracy theory

    yoni is having a tough TACO Tuesday.

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    another conspiracy theory

    yoni is having a tough TACO Tuesday.

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    Here is the ST Trump mentality in a nuts .



    https://x.com/SonnyBunch/status/2016150993629536527

    yoni is going through the several stages of grief right now, but he will always end up in a state of permanent denial because he is incapable of emotional or intellectual growth.

    He's been that way for 20 years. They're still translating the do ents.

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    Tsa grappling with his full on NRA love vs his Trump love. He may be in Korea for a while.

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    Tsa grappling with his full on NRA love vs his Trump love. He may be in Korea for a while.
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    I'm not going to waste my time on a website that is down half the time and only has three active members, one of which I have on ignore and the other two (you and winehole) that run away like pussies and refuse to answer questions. The three member circle jerk echo chamber this forum has turned in to is absolutely pathetic. How much time do you spend per day trying and failing to load the site or log in? I'm not going to waste my time to finally log in and see you've abandoned another thread we were in because you got cornered and made an idiot out of yourself.

    As for Pretti...FAFO

    "What does it mean to call someone a protester. The term carries moral weight. It suggests expressive conduct, a public statement, and a basic commitment to nonviolence. It implies distance from force, from coercion, and from direct interference with lawful state action. When officials, media, and activists described Alex Pretti as a protester, they were not merely describing where he stood. They were making a claim about what he was doing, what he intended, and how his death should be understood.
    The ac ulating evidence no longer supports that description.

    Based on what is now known, it is far more accurate to say that Alex Pretti functioned as an active participant in the ICE Watch insurgency in Minnesota. He was not a bystander. He was not merely present. He was trained, coordinated, armed, and operational. He provided actionable intelligence. He accepted assignments. He moved toward enforcement scenes in response to real time direction. And on the day of his death, he inserted himself physically into a confrontation with federal officers while carrying a loaded firearm and additional magazines, in violation of Minnesota law, after being warned by his own parents not to engage officers because of his anger.

    To see this clearly, it helps to distinguish protest from direct action. Protest expresses opposition. Direct action seeks to obstruct. Protest communicates. Direct action intervenes. Protest attempts to persuade an audience. Direct action attempts to impose costs. ICE Watch was not organized around persuasion. It was organized around disruption. Its purpose was to locate, track, and interfere with immigration enforcement operations in real time.

    Alex Pretti attended ICE Watch training. He participated in Signal groups used to coordinate these operations. He did not merely observe these channels. He contributed to them. He provided location updates. He responded to calls for support. He moved to spot ICE vehicles. He accepted assignments to go to enforcement scenes. That is not expressive dissent. That is operational participation.

    On the day he was killed, Pretti did not stumble into a chaotic situation. He went to it. He went armed. According to the narrative being advanced, he carried a Sig Sauer P320 series 9mm pistol equipped with an optic and two additional 17 round magazines, a total of 51 possible rounds. Crucially, his mother has claimed that her son never carried his gun in day-to-day life despite having a permit and that he always carried his wallet and government issued ID. That means on this day he did two things he reportedly never did before: he carried his firearm and he did not carry his wallet or ID, a direct violation of Minnesota law which requires both to be on one’s person when carrying and to be disclosed to officers. These are not technical oversights. They matter precisely in volatile encounters with law enforcement and, in the frame being made here, signal that this was not ordinary protest behavior but a significant departure from his own patterns.

    He took position in the roadway. He directed traffic. He refused lawful orders. He physically intervened when an officer pushed another activist. He resisted arrest. During the ensuing struggle, officers observed his holstered weapon. An 8 year CBP veteran, trained in firearms and nonlethal options, concluded that his life or the lives of fellow officers were in danger and fired.

    State officials labeled the killing murder. But under Supreme Court precedent, the governing standard is not hindsight moralization. It is whether a reasonable officer in that moment could believe lethal force was necessary to prevent serious bodily harm or death. In such scenarios, the officer’s on scene judgment governs. On the facts as asserted, the shooting appears to have been lawful self defense.

    At the time, critics dismissed this analysis as speculative. They insisted that Pretti was simply a protester caught in a tragic escalation. What we are learning now solidifies the earlier conclusions.
    Just days before his death, Pretti spoke with his parents about repairs to his garage door. He mentioned giving a Latino worker a $100 tip amid immigration tensions in Minnesota. His mother, Susan Pretti, said he was troubled by the direction of the US, particularly the Trump administration’s rollback of environmental regulations. She described him as an outdoorsman who took his dog everywhere and who hated seeing land trashed. His father, Michael Pretti, said his son cared deeply about people and was upset by what he viewed as ICE kidnapping children and grabbing people off the street.

    These statements matter, but not in the way often suggested. They show motivation, not restraint. They show moral intensity, not moderation. His parents acknowledged that he participated in protests and was concerned by immigration enforcement. More importantly, they warned him explicitly not to engage officers. They feared he was too angry to control himself. Two weeks before the incident, his father told him to protest but not engage and not do anything stupid. Pretti responded that he knew this.
    He went anyway. He engaged anyway.

    Now we have access to Alex Pretti’s final Signal messages. These messages, uncovered by the Oversight Project, radically undermine the protester narrative. They reveal an organized, disciplined communications environment designed to direct resources, track federal officers, and respond rapidly to enforcement activity.



    The Signal chat was marked “LEAVE CHAT. DELETE CHAT.” Anti ICE activists in this group directed resources to the location where Pretti was ultimately shot. Users in the chat identified ICE vehicles, tracked their movements, and requested support at specific intersections and businesses. Within the chat, coordinators such as the user “Salacious B Crumb” spotted and directed resources to thwart ICE enforcement. ICE vehicles were identified by make, color, and license plate. Their movements were updated in real time. Calls went out for backup. Observers reported on agent actions. This was not spontaneous outrage. It was coordinated activity.

    The Oversight Project identified a user named “Alvin Q” as Alex Pretti. In the chat, “Alvin Q” reported his movements, indicated proximity to enforcement locations, and volunteered to spot ICE vehicles. He stated he was moving west on 38th to observe and update. Fifteen minutes before the incident, “Alvin Q” indicated he was near the location of the shooting and was actively texting about ICE movements.
    In the minutes leading up to the shooting, “Salacious B Crumb” directed others to the location with messages such as “BACKUP NEEDED.” One activist inside Glam Doll Donuts shared a video of the shop owners locking ICE out. One of the officers visible in that video, wearing a grey coat, appears to have been involved in the attempted arrest of Pretti.

    At 9:02 AM CST, the Signal chat first mentioned possible shots fired. After that moment, the user “Alvin Q” did not reappear in the chat. His prior emoji usage suggested a medical role. Then silence.
    These messages show something precise. They show real time tactical coordination. They show tasking, movement, and response. They show a system designed to interfere with law enforcement operations as they unfolded. That system did not treat participants as mere demonstrators. It treated them as assets.

    To be clear, we are not asserting with absolute certainty that Alex Pretti was the user “Alvin Q.” But the convergence of alias usage, location data, timing, and behavior makes the identification plausible. More importantly, even setting aside the alias question, the structure and function of the Signal group demonstrates that ICE Watch was not a protest network. It was an operational network.

    A protester holds a sign. An operative holds a position. A protester chants. An operative spots, reports, and moves. A protester hopes to be seen. An operative hopes to be effective.
    Alex Pretti was effective. He showed up where he was directed. He inserted himself physically. He escalated. He did so while armed. He did so in defiance of his parents’ warnings. He did so in coordination with others engaged in the same pattern of behavior.
    This does not require demonization. It requires clarity. Calling Pretti a protester is not charitable. It is misleading. It obscures the nature of the activity and the risks it creates, not only for officers, but for participants themselves.

    When activists embed themselves into enforcement operations, when they track officers, when they intervene physically, when they resist arrest while armed, the moral and legal terrain changes. The situation becomes one of imminent risk, not expressive dissent. Officers do not have the luxury of parsing motives or reviewing Signal logs in real time. They respond to what they see, to what they reasonably perceive as a threat.

    That is why Supreme Court doctrine centers on the officer’s judgment in the moment. It is why after the fact narratives that ignore operational context are so dangerous. They invite repe ion.
    The tragedy of Alex Pretti’s death lies not in a protest gone wrong, but in a system that encouraged escalation while denying its own nature. ICE Watch trained participants to insert themselves into volatile situations. It normalized confrontation. It rewarded presence. It framed law enforcement as abductors and kidnappers. It treated interference as virtue.

    Pretti embraced that framework. He acted on it. And on that day, it led him into a fatal confrontation that his parents had explicitly warned him to avoid.
    If there is to be accountability, it should begin with honesty. The evidence no longer supports the protester story. It supports a harder conclusion, that Alex Pretti was an active participant in a coordinated effort to obstruct federal law enforcement, and that his death occurred during that effort, not despite it.

    Final Note.
    Some readers, particularly strong supporters of the Second Amendment, have interpreted criticism of Alex Pretti carrying a pistol, additional magazines, and an optic as opposition to the right to bear arms. That interpretation is incorrect. I am strongly supportive of the right to keep and bear arms and of lawful carry wherever it is legal to do so. Nothing in this op-ed rejects that right.

    Nor is this an argument about whether Minnesota’s requirement that a person carrying a firearm must also carry a permit and government issued ID is wise or unwise policy. The point here is contextual and factual. On the day in question, Alex Pretti broke that law, and he knew he was breaking it. That matters because intent matters.

    It is not inherently wrong to carry a firearm to a protest. But where the record shows an intent to disrupt law enforcement operations, to physically engage officers, and to insert oneself into an enforcement scene, carrying a firearm dramatically raises the risk of lethal outcomes. That risk materialized here.

    Every indictment of Pretti’s actions in this essay is contextual rather than ideological. They are not judgments about the Second Amendment. They are efforts to understand why Alex did what he did and what he intended to do. The evidence includes the firearm, a gun his mother says he never carried in ordinary life. The evidence also includes the deliberate absence of his permit and ID, items she says he always carried. Taken together, these facts point away from peaceful protest and toward intentional participation in an act of domestic terror. There was no protest there. There was an effort to interfere with law enforcement, and the presence of a firearm in that context is part of the factual record that must be confronted.

    https://x.com/amuse/status/2016235753005514902

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    Tsa still can't think for himself. Never will. Go back to Korea.

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    TSA's cope and seethe is walls of text and new conspiracy theories.

    TSA lost.

    Yoni lost.

    Trump lost.

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    Seriously guys. The secret police attacked a woman for no reason and Pretti tried to help her up.

    The secret police executed him for that and you say you'd do the same execution 100 times out of 100.

    You're the ing problem.

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    Seriously guys. The secret police attacked a woman for no reason and Pretti tried to help her up.

    The secret police executed him for that and you say you'd do the same execution 100 times out of 100.

    You're the ing problem.
    NO NO, HE HAD A GUN WHICH ALTHOUGH IS HIS 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT UNLESS HE IS PARTICIPATING IN AN ACT OF TERROR WHICH IN THIS CASE OF TRYING TO HELP A WOMAN CLEARLY IS AND SHOULD BE SHOT MANY TIMES WHILE DISARMED AND ON THE GROUND.

    (unless January 6, where it was a peaceful protest, weapons okay, pardons issued by our King)

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    If people like Pretti wanted to murder your secret police they would just buy a long gun and mow them down like you do in supermarkets with brown people.

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    lol "maximum damage"

    pussies

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    53-47 is the current partisan split

    67 is probably too tall a reach for conviction, but that any Republicans are on board with impeaching high government officials in their own party is newsworthy all by itself

    Sens. Thom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski called for Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to resign Tuesday, making them the first Republicans in Congress to say she should step down.


    Asked whether he had confidence in Noem, Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters on Capitol Hill: “No, not at all. I think she should go.”



    Tillis, who is not running seeking another term in Congress, said some of Noem's actions reflected "amateurish assistant-manager-sort of thought processes," calling them "unacceptable" for someone in a Cabinet-level position.


    "If I were in her position, I can't think of any point of pride over the last year," he said.


    Murkowski, R-Alaska, whose term runs until January 2029, said Noem should not be running DHS.


    “Yes, she should go,” Murkowski told NBC News.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ary-rcna256233

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