Donald G.W.B. Trump officially attacks Iran

[Winehole23]

the previous US military quagmire weighs in

Nearly 1,000 drone attacks targeted Saudi Arabia during the war, with up to half launched from inside Iraq, according to a Saudi assessment. -WSJ

[Winehole23]

last time the US Embassy in Iraq issued a warning, it said "leave by land routes"


this time it cautions US citizens flying out of the country to be cautious of "persistent threats from drones and missiles"

The US Embassy in Baghdad issued on Monday a new warning against going to Iraq, urging Americans currently there to leave immediately.


The embassy cautioned that Iran-aligned groups in Iraq are planning more assaults on US citizens and American-linked interests throughout the country, particularly northern Iraq.


Some members of the Iraqi government continue to deliberately offer political, financial, and operational cover for these terrorist groups, according to the embassy’s statement.


Iraqi airspace has been reopened, with few commercial aircraft now flying, according to the US Embassy in Iraq, which cautioned Americans considering air travel to be cautious of persistent threats from missiles and drones.
“The US Embassy in Iraq is still operational to support US citizens in the country,” according to the statement.


“Do not try to visit the embassy in Baghdad or the consulate general in Erbil due to substantial security threats,” the embassy advised, urging US nationals to contact authorities at the embassy and consulate via digital tools.

https://www.iraqinews.com/iraq/us-ur...iraq-to-leave/

[Blake]

"A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media"

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/polit...rump-iran-deal

Moron.

[Winehole23]

"A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media"

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/20/polit...rump-iran-deal

Moron.

sh!tposter in chief f@cking things up, as he does

hope he doesn't poast us into WWIII

[Winehole23]

Trump demanded peace talks, Iran told him to get bent.

So now he's extending the deadline -- the correct decision imo. Better to jaw-jaw than to war-war.

Trump has painted himself and the world economy into a corner with his whimsical war of choice on Iran. Pressure is still on, Trump's continuing the blockade.

[Winehole23]

32% approval on Iran in the new AP/NORC poll

https://apnorc.org/projects/fewer-ap...f-the-economy/

[Winehole23]

sounds not necessarily good

it's like no one thought this war through

The US military has significantly depleted its stockpile of key missiles during the war with Iran and created a “near-term risk” of running out of ammunition in a future conflict should one arise in the next few years, according to experts and three people familiar with recent internal Defense Department stockpile assessments.

Over the last seven weeks of war, the US military has expended at least 45% of its stockpile of Precision Strike Missiles; at least half of its inventory of THAAD missiles, which are designed to intercept ballistic missiles; and nearly 50% of its stockpile of Patriot air defense interceptor missiles, according to a new analysis conducted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Those numbers closely align with classified Pentagon data about US stockpiles, according to the sources familiar with the assessment.

Earlier this year the Pentagon signed a series of contracts that would help expand missile production, but the delivery timeline to replace these systems is three to five years even with the increased capacity, the CSIS experts and the sources said.

In the short term, the US likely maintains enough bombs and missiles to continue combat operations against Iran, in any scenario, should the shaky ceasefire fail to hold. But the number of critical munitions remaining in US stockpiles is no longer sufficient to confront a near-peer adversary, like China, and it will likely take years before the inventory of those weapons returns to pre-war levels, the CSIS analysis concludes

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/21/polit...sile-stockpile

[Winehole23]

one way I've heard this glossed is that the US doesn't have enough ships in the region to enforce the blockade

another way to read it is that Trump is scared to escalate, but he can't withdraw without looking like a loser -- he's got his d!ck caught in a crack

Iranian tankers bypass US blockade

Dozens of ships exiting the Gulf include several loaded with Iranian oil

https://www.ft.com/content/21dff2c7-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

[Blake]

Trump demanded peace talks, Iran told him to get bent.

So now he's extending the deadline -- the correct decision imo. Better to jaw-jaw than to war-war.

Trump has painted himself and the world economy into a corner with his whimsical war of choice on Iran. Pressure is still on, Trump's continuing the blockade.

TACO TUESDAY

[Winehole23]

for a couple of days, the Iranian line has been that the ceasefire is little more than preparation for a renewed US attack

Continuation of a naval blockade amounts to continued hostility; as long as the blockade persists, Iran will at least not reopen the Strait of Hormuz, and if necessary, it will break the blockade by force.-Tasnim

Iran did not request a ceasefire extension. -Tasnim

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump is so ed. His "regime change" basically put the IRGC in charge and they are ten times worse than the old guy they killed on the first day. He is stuck. They aren't going to give him at the negotiations. If he starts bombing again trying to be a tough guy they will start blowing up middle east oil production and we will be looking at $150+'oil. I am so convinced he is that stupid I bought $100,000 of west Texas oil stocks friday when he basically claimed he had a deal and oil dropped and the stock market zoomed.

[SnakeBoy]

lol a whole $100k

[Winehole23]

^^^ no topical take, as usual

[Winehole23]

Trump is so ed. His "regime change" basically put the IRGC in charge and they are ten times worse than the old guy they killed on the first day. He is stuck. They aren't going to give him at the negotiations. If he starts bombing again trying to be a tough guy they will start blowing up middle east oil production and we will be looking at $150+'oil. I am so convinced he is that stupid I bought $100,000 of west Texas oil stocks friday when he basically claimed he had a deal and oil dropped and the stock market zoomed.

Trump stumbling into inflationary recession isn't the worst possible outcome here

[ChumpDumper]

lol a whole $100k

You said Iran surrendered.

What happened?

Please explain.

[Blake]

Trump is so ed. His "regime change" basically put the IRGC in charge and they are ten times worse than the old guy they killed on the first day. He is stuck. They aren't going to give him at the negotiations. If he starts bombing again trying to be a tough guy they will start blowing up middle east oil production and we will be looking at $150+'oil. I am so convinced he is that stupid I bought $100,000 of west Texas oil stocks friday when he basically claimed he had a deal and oil dropped and the stock market zoomed.

lol a whole $100k

Not sure who is trying to big time more here.

[ChumpDumper]

How much did snacks' wife bet on oil?

[Winehole23]

Trump/Bibi killed the one guy who could sideline the IRGC and his replacement seems to be a non-factor. Iran's governance is in chaos and may not be agreement capable.

Unfortunately, something similar is true about the USA, which is depending on an irascible moron without object permanence for US strategy.

Why decapitation complicates war termination: "We saw that there is an absolute fracture inside Iran between the negotiators and the military — with neither side having access to the supreme leader, who is not responsive"

www.axios.com/newsletters/...

[Winehole23]

Trump mashed the button that makes the price of *everything* go up

[CosmicCowboy]

If it comes down to who in Iran gets their way between the politicians and the IRGC I'm pretty sure it will be the ones with the guns that comes out on top.

[Winehole23]

sounds bad

The global aluminium market is experiencing a "black swan" event as disruptions due to the Middle #East war trigger a supply shock that will lead to major shortages this year, according to the top metals analyst at commodity trader Mercuria.

The region accounts for about 7 million metric tons of annual aluminium smelting capacity, or roughly 9% of the estimated global supply this ​year. Aluminium is a key material for the transport, construction and packaging industries

Mercuria estimates the market ​will face, at a minimum, a deficit of roughly 2 million tons between now and the end of the ​year. Snowdon said this estimate may prove conservative, as it assumes a near-term improvement in alumina flows via the Strait of Hormuz #will enable ⁠some smelters to restart production this quarter.

"That shortfall compares with about 1.5 million tons of visible inventory and just over 3 million tons of total global stock, including non-visible units, leaving the market with limited buffers," Snowdon said.
A larger deficit is possible if the conflict is extended and flows of alumina - a feedstock for aluminium production - to the Gulf are ​limited, he added.

Middle East aluminium ​cannot easily be replaced. In ⁠China, the world's top producer, there is an annual output limit of 45 million tons, while the U.S. and Europe have little idled capacity that could return.

Snowdon said the ​U.S. and Europe were particularly exposed to the supply shock because of low stocks.

Of the ​3.4 million tons ⁠of primary and alloyed aluminium that the U.S. imported last year, the Middle East accounted for nearly 22%, according to Trade Data Monitor, an information provider.

Europe imported around 1.2 million tons, or 18.5%, of its primary and alloyed aluminium from the ⁠Middle East ​last year, according to TDM.

h​ttps://www.reuters.com/world/china/aluminium-faces-black-swan-supply-shock-mercuria-says-2026-04-22/

[Winehole23]

public bailouts already starting

wonder where the money comes from

TRUMP ADMIN NEARS $500M RESCUE DEAL FOR SPIRIT AIRLINES: WSJ

[Blake]

public bailouts already starting

wonder where the money comes from

Hooray pure capitalism. Boo socialism. Amirite, Republicans?

[CosmicCowboy]

public bailouts already starting

wonder where the money comes from

Thats bull . They were bankrupt before jet fuel went up.

[CosmicCowboy]

What people seem to have forgotten is that China is the worlds largest oil importer importing 23% of the worlds oil production before the war. They had a large oil reserve they filled last year at $60 a barrel that have been drawing down since the war started but it is estimated that they will have to re-enter the oil market in 3-4 weeks and that should be when oil really es.