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    Whiny, where's your Lebanon thread? Israel has been bombing and murdering children there every single day this year.
    What's that got to do with the price of gas here?

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    Whiny, where's your Lebanon thread? Israel has been bombing and murdering children there every single day this year.
    Are you unable to start a thread yourself?

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    they said that in 2022. it was down below $3 by October.

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    they said that in 2022.
    Link please.

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    I've posted once or twice about Lebanon since the war started

    the search term "Gazafication" might surface a recent WH23 take

    the general interest in politics in this forum is puny, topics are lost at sea
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    Two supertankers carrying Iraqi oil to China passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday, raising hopes of a partial opening of the vital chokepoint for Middle Eastern energy and sending crude prices tumbling.
    Shipping data showed the two ships traversing the strategic waterway. A third supertanker transporting Kuwaiti oil to South Korea was also shown to be in the strait before its transponder was switched off.

    Collectively, the three ships are carrying 6mn barrels of oil, potentially the largest volume to exit the Gulf in a single day since the US and Israel started the conflict with Iran at the end of February.

    The supertankers steered through the northern side of the strait, following a route designated by Iran. “It is most likely that there was a deal done with Iran,” said Matthew Wright, lead shipping analyst at data company Kpler.

    Analysts at shipping data company Windward said the passage of the ships, two days after Iran launched a new agency to administer permits and charge tolls, suggested the strait “is no longer a closed corridor but a contested and tiered-access environment”, shaped by US and Iranian enforcement.

    To boost the credibility of its new agency, Tehran also on Wednesday said 26 vessels had passed through the strait over the previous 24 hours, although it was not possible to verify the claim using ship-tracking data.1
    https://www.ft.com/content/110b9bb3-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

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    Are you unable to start a thread yourself?
    baby-bird syndrome

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    are we winning?



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    Whiny, where's your Lebanon thread? Israel has been bombing and murdering children there every single day this year.
    My take on the war in Lebanon isn't hidden, you can find it in this thread and others-- Israel's conduct has been more or less directly genocidal.

    I agree with you 100% that the Israel/Lebanon War is threadworthy.



    Go for it, Ball Buster

    Make a thread!

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    House GOP calls off war powers vote it knows it will lose -- sparing Trump the embarrassment of vetoing it

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ar-powers-iran

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    "Trump fellates Xi in public"

    Acting Navy Secretary Hung Cao said Thursday the U.S. is pausing a $14 billion arms sale to Taiwan because of the Trump administration’s war with Iran.

    Speaking during a Senate Appropriations Defense Subcommittee hearing, Cao insisted the U.S. still had “plenty” of missiles and interceptors, even as scrutiny grows over America’s dwindling munitions stockpiles.
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...n-paused-iran/

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    US used over half its THAAD interceptors defending Israel during Iran war — report

    The US reportedly used up more than half of its inventory of THAAD anti-missile interceptors while defending Israel from Iranian attacks during the recent war.

    According to The Washington Post on Thursday, the United States used over 200 THAAD interceptors to shoot down missiles bound for Israel. It also launched more than 100 SM-3 and SM-6 interceptors to defend Israel, which itself used fewer than 100 Arrow interceptors and around 90 from the David Sling’s system.

    A US official told the newspaper that if fighting renews with Iran, the US will likely need to use even more interceptors defending Israel because of a decision by the latter to send some missile defense batteries for maintenance.

    “Israel is not capable of fighting and winning wars on its own, but nobody actually knows this, because they never see the back end,” said a US official quoted in the report.

    The Pentagon denied to The Washington Post that there is any issue of burden sharing with Israel, saying, “Ballistic missile interceptors are just one tool in a vast network of systems and capabilities.”

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    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-use...an-war-report/

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    scuttlebutt on the MOU under discussion

    immediate cessation of hostilities including Lebanon, end of the US blockade, reconstruction funds for Iran, sanctions on Iran to be lifted as talks progress, can kicked on the nuclear issue, US to redeploy troops "near Iran" on completion of the deal

    I’ve learned details on the latest proposal from the US to Iran to end the war which includes significant financial concessions to Iran.

    As expected, it would be a multi-step process, building on a previous 14-point proposal. The proposal is a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) that sets up negotiations toward a “final deal.” It kicks the can down the road on the toughest issues so that the war can end.


    In the agreement, which would be signed in Islamabad, the terms the US has offered Iran to include:



    • Immediate end to military operations including Lebanon and no more threats of force against each other.
    • The MOU leads to negotiations on a “final deal” to officially end the war. Axios reported earlier that would be 30 days of talks, I heard it’s now longer and could be extended.
    • Discussions of nuclear enrichment, removal of enriched material discussed later in the final deal. Iran commits in the MOU to never develop a nuclear weapon.
    • A large economic reconstruction plan for Iran, to be developed by the US and its allies in the region. How it works exactly is part of the final deal.
    • The US will unfreeze Iranian funds as talks progress.
    • All US and UN sanctions - including secondary - to be lifted after a final deal which will lay out a schedule.
    • Before a final deal and the lifting of sanctions, the US will issue waivers for Iranian oil exports, banking and other products/areas.
    • US removes naval blockade and starts to redeploy forces after MOU is agreed to. Pre-war maritime traffic restored within 30 days. US forces removed from near Iran within a month of a final deal.
    • The UN Security Council will eventually bless a final deal.

    After publication, a White House official responded: “President Trump has made his redlines in negotiations clear. Iran can never have a nuclear weapon, and they must turn over their enriched uranium. Any agreement must contain these items because the President will only accept a deal that puts America First.”
    https://atmarquardt.substack.com/p/u...reconstruction

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    Iran has been attacked twice under cover of negotiations so far...this weekend would be the third time

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    Maybe Trump will switch things up and attack Cuba

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    Maybe Trump will switch things up and attack Cuba
    Sure, why not.

    "CUBA SHOULD BE OUR 51ST STATE THEY HAVE GREAT CIGARS"

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    Sure, why not.

    "CUBA SHOULD BE OUR 51ST STATE THEY HAVE GREAT CIGARS"
    unless it's a turnkey operation like Venezuela, I don't think the US is ready for the likely stream of refugees

    no way does Cuba become the 51st US state

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    unless it's a turnkey operation like Venezuela, I don't think the US is ready for the likely stream of refugees

    no way does Cuba become the 51st US state
    Oh I know. I'm not sure Trump knows. I was predicting a similar tweet like the one he had with Venezuela.

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    Seoul says Korean tanker exits Hormuz under coordination with Iran

    A South Korean tanker has passed through the Strait of Hormuz under coordination with Iran, Seoul said Wednesday, marking the first known transit by a South Korean vessel since the outbreak of the US-Iran war in late February.

    Foreign Minister Cho Hyun first disclosed the development during a parliamentary session, saying, “At this very moment, a South Korean tanker is exiting the Strait of Hormuz under coordination with the Iranian side.”

    Cho added consultations with the Iranian authorities had been completed and that the vessel had “begun sailing yesterday and is passing through very cautiously.” He also mentioned “2 million barrels,” apparently referring to the volume of crude oil aboard the tanker.

    South Korea’s Foreign Ministry later confirmed that “one South Korean tanker has passed through the Strait of Hormuz and is continuing its voyage,” suggesting the vessel had exited the high-risk waters around the strait and entered a safer maritime zone. Around 10 South Korean crew members were aboard the tanker that completed the transit, the ministry said in a message to reporters.

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    https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10742061

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    ^^^facts on the ground are running ahead of negotiations

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    wash, rinse, repeat


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    People are calling it the biggest ever!


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