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    They're not Israelis, they're Palestinians
    Israeli citizens are citizens of Israel. Some Israeli citizens -- about 20% -- are Arabs.

    Thanks for admitting you just want to kill Jews.

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    Iran state TV saying MOU draft reached -- no US reply as yet

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    all scuttlebutt, but amounts to an epochal strategic loss for the USA if accurate

    could be Iran is releasing its wish list

    According to Tehran, if a final deal is reached within 60 days, the MoU will be approved in the form of a binding UN Security Council resolution.
    Under the draft MoU, U.S. military forces will withdraw from the vicinity of Iran and lift the naval blockade. In return, Iran has committed to restoring the number of commercial ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz to pre-war levels within one month.
    The management and route of ship traffic through the Strait will be handled by Iran in cooperation with Oman.
    $$$

    Iranian state TV stated that the MoU framework is not yet finalized, and no step will be taken by Tehran without "tangible verification."-Reuters reports citing Iranian state TV

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    deal not close?

    The White House says that reporting in Iranian media about a draft MoU between the U.S. and Iran is untrue and a complete fabrication. "Nobody should believe what Iranian state media is putting out," the White House said.

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    "Nobody should believe what Iranian state media is putting out"

    True enough. Nobody should believe what the White House is putting out either, unfortunately.

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    "Nobody should believe what Iranian state media is putting out"

    True enough. Nobody should believe what the White House is putting out either, unfortunately.
    Sad times we live where I think Iran state media tells less lies than the WH

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    Central Command is getting reports that military personnel are being targeted using commercially available location data. Few details available, but it’s a sign that the tech industry’s advertising-surveillance complex is having consequences on the battlefield.
    www.reuters.com/business/med...

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    Trump threatened Oman yesterday

    "Oman will behave just like everyone else, or we'll have to blow them up"

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    deal is on, according to unnamed US officials, subject to Trump's final approval



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    "we made a deal to make a deal, but neither of the dealmakers has signed on yet"

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    Mojtaba Khamenei did not approve the agreement, and this is one of the reasons Trump did not say 'yes'

    “Actually, there is perhaps an agreement here between Arakchi, Kalibaf, Witkoff, and his people on the other side - but the senior Iranian leadership, the decision-makers, did not say 'yes'”-i24

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    "we made a deal to make a deal, but neither of the dealmakers has signed on yet"
    "IT'S RUNNING ON FUMES BUT LOOKS CLOSE"

    set up for the weekend before "NO MORE MR NICE GUY!!" come Monday

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    "IT'S RUNNING ON FUMES BUT LOOKS CLOSE"

    set up for the weekend before "NO MORE MR NICE GUY!!" come Monday
    simulating deals with Iran to manipulate/soothe the market won't work when there's a shortage of physical oil -- price discovery/demand destruction will happen
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    This is pathetic.

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    Exxon Senior VP Neil Chapman, "at the Bernstein Conference":



    https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintan.../3mmwtnytpek2o

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    "IT'S RUNNING ON FUMES BUT LOOKS CLOSE"

    set up for the weekend before "NO MORE MR NICE GUY!!" come Monday
    yesterday was the first day of this four-day pillar of Islam, Eid al-Adha

    so yea, roughly corresponds with the end of this particular festival

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    *US defensive strikes incoming"

    Iranian armed forces fired warning shots at four vessels near the Strait of Hormuz, which were attempting to pass through the strait without coordination.
    The explosion heard in the city of Jam, Bushehr province, was caused by defense forces confronting hostile aircraft. Unofficial news reports indicate the destruction of an American drone.

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    seems for now we're in the extend and pretend phase

    it can't last forever

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    *US defensive strikes incoming"
    The Department of War saying these are defensive strikes and this isn't a war is annoyingly hilarious and stupid.

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    seems for now we're in the extend and pretend phase

    it can't last forever
    It can last long enough to cause permanent economic and military damage. We've already exhausted a bunch of our weapons stockpiles that will take years to replenish.

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    It can last long enough to cause permanent economic and military damage. We've already exhausted a bunch of our weapons stockpiles that will take years to replenish.
    expect to see more desperate lashing out

    they don't know when they've already lost

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    the economic damage will be extensive regardless

    practically speaking it may not be until 2027 at the soonest that normal shipping volumes of extractive products and distillates will begin to resume in the Persian Gulf, assuming a stable diplomatic/political resolution can be reached beforehand

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