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    I didn't see that part in the published text, is this just vibes?



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    US WAR AIMS: Unmentioned or punted to further talks.

    IRAN GETS: Immediate concessions, including economic benefits.

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    why do people take advice from a man who won't take his own advice?
    Because he held up a Bible that one time

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    "It's signed. I signed it in Versailles. I just signed it."

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    if Trump decides to break US law by waiving sanctions on Iran without approval from Congress, what can we do about it?

    story of his whole presidency, tbh

    I don’t think the president has the authority under domestic law to issue these waivers. The Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act (INARA) of 2015 applies here and temporarily bars a president from waiving sanctions against Iran. The executive branch has counterarguments, to be sure. And it’s doubtful that any ins ution will make the president comply with INARA in any event.
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    Peter Doocy: “A wise man once said, in January 2020: ‘Iran has never won a war, but has never lost a negotiation.’”

    President Trump: “Who said that?”

    Reporter: “Donald Trump.”

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    twice as much in inflation-adjusted dollars as the Marshall Plan, I've heard

    a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

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    Within the boundaries of the military force that the United States was capable of performing with its allies, Iran comprehensively inflicted economic and political damage such that it forced the other side to the negotiation table looking for any possible deal.

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    astonishingly this narrative line is genuine, not AI-generated



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    Trump is still in an escalation trap...getting branded as a loser by his own camp must sting


    Donald Trump’s ceasefire agreement with Iran has now been released, and it confirms what we all expected: He got nothing of any significance. A surprising number of his allies agree. Fox News personalities, visibly angry and rattled, are saying they’ve “very skeptical” of the deal, that it “doesn’t feel like a victory,” that the U.S. “lost the most,” and that Iran is “better off” than before. Others are already throwing JD Vance under the bus, with one even suggesting the agreement is so bad that it... might have “let the president down.”
    https://newrepublic.com/article/2120...t-live-tv-lost

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    In a talk shortly before the Administration released the final language, Robert Pape described long form not only why the MOU was a US capitulation but also the energy cliff still being in play meant Iran was ideally positioned to extract more concessions over the negotiation period

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    Israel views the now revealed MOU as a massive strategic defeat. Here is what Jerusalem is actually afraid of and why each fear is real:

    1) Clause 10 issues oil waivers the moment the MOU is signed, before Iran gives up anything concrete. Israel watched the Iranian economy approach collapse during the war. Now it gets crude sales, banking access, and eventually the frozen assets under Clause 11. Iran can now rebuild its economy.

    2) Clause 8 lets Iran dilute its enriched stockpile on its own soil under IAEA supervision rather than ship the uranium out. Israel always assessed Tehran would refuse to surrender the material or the enrichment right, and the text confirms it. Trump declining to rule out low-level enrichment tells Israel the US baseline has moved.

    3) The theaters are now linked. Clause 1 ties a permanent end of fighting in Lebanon to the broader Iran deal. Israel fought to keep Hezbollah and Iran as separate files now there will be pressure on them from the US to restrain.

    4) Israel reads the text as requiring no pullback before a final agreement, which buys time. But the Americans want to accelerate, with a fifth political and military round in Washington next week. The expectation in Jerusalem is mounting pressure to halt operations in south Lebanon.

    5) Iranian prestige is way up. Iran defeated both America and Israel and announced Tehran will charge for passage through the Strait of Hormuz, which will not return to its prewar state. The narrative matters because it shapes deterrence, and right now Iran owns it.

    6) One senior Israeli source told Ynet, "Iran emerged a global power, and Israel went from a regional power to the world's punching bag. In such a situation it will be very hard for Netanyahu to oppose a withdrawal from Lebanon. The pressure will grow."

    Israel is worried that this opens the road to a more stable Iranian regime, with a path to nuclear weapons, a revived resistance axis and Israeli options in Lebanon blocked. A strategic disaster for Israel.
    https://x.com/academic_la/status/2067356106813510129

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    apparently, yes

    Does the president have legal authority to bind the United States to an armistice agreement for a war he had no legal authority to start?

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    operation blame JD

    Witkoff and Kushner are ghosts, I guess



    Ben Shapiro: "This MOU appears to be a disaster that does not achieve any of the signal goals that were set by the administration at the beginning ... in my opinion the vice president, the chief negotiator, has not well served the president"

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    What bothers me is you've seen people in Bibi's cabinet who have come out & attacked the deal & very personally attacked the president. My message to them is Donald J Trump is the only head in the state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel

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    it's not Trump's first rodeo


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    Hegseth blames gulf allies, who Trump put under the crosshairs by attacking Iran


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