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    Stand-up philosopher CharlieMac's Avatar
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    What do you pay now? Or do you mooch off some else's WiFi connection?
    I switched to ATT. Time Warner held my prorated refund for 5 months because they insisted that I had a wireless card of thiers even though I explained to them repeatedly that my laptop came with an internal card, so there would be no reason to use one of theirs.

    I switched to ATT and they gave me problems with the phone installation. I went Good Will Hunting on their asses and lit them up in an email that was forwarded to every corporate office I could find. I explained to them that it took a lot of convincing to get my wife to switch over and that I would never, ever consider ATT again. I also let them know that we order every single cable station there is, DVR service, the works, so it's not like we were switching over for basic phone service. They had a technician out and apologizing in 30 minutes.

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    The internet is for porn...not your tv. Sheesh.
    Sometimes it's difficult to balance the laptop at the right angle.

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    I come in Marklar. Marklar MM's Avatar
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    Sometimes it's difficult to balance the laptop at the right angle.
    That explains it. Get the proper cables and hook it up to the tv. Then it is like looking at porn on your computer, but through your tv.

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    I was just kidding. I use On Demand for CourTV and A&E On Demand. I don't really use PPV.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I personally honestly like AT&T (SBC) DSL more than Road Runner. I had TW years back and it was constantly going out during rainstorms. I'm sure they've improved their coverage out in the area I was living in (1604/151) but at the time it was horrible and anytime it rained I was liable to lose my connection.

    I had Dish Network at the time so the only reason I used TW was for internet so I can't speak for their tv service.

    Currently we have Grande cable and I'm not really in love with their lineup or anything else, but we get it for free so I can't complain much. For internet we have ATT&T and its been great. We got a free wireless router with it and we've only had one short outage in the time that we've had it. The speed is no worse than anything I ever had with cable, so I guess for us it works out better.

    Its also cheaper!

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    Stand-up philosopher CharlieMac's Avatar
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    Yeah, the free router and 12.99 DSL rate for a year makes sense. I think the high speed of Roadrunner is of no use to people on laptops either way considering the max on mbps.

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    Yeah, the free router and 12.99 DSL rate for a year makes sense. I think the high speed of Roadrunner is of no use to people on laptops either way considering the max on mbps.
    802.11B gets about 4-5 Mbps, I get almost 5Mbps on my Road Runner connection, and you can always upgrade to G which does about 25Mbps....

    My laptops all already have G cards, I just need to upgrade my router....

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    I thought it was 54.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Super G goes 108 Mbps, G goes 54 Mbps. Cable modems can go as fast as 500Mbps, most DSL lines not even a quarter of that. Also, it's not easy to network multiple PCs on DSL.

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    You Belinelli Believe It! dougp's Avatar
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    I personally honestly like AT&T (SBC) DSL more than Road Runner. I had TW years back and it was constantly going out during rainstorms. I'm sure they've improved their coverage out in the area I was living in (1604/151) but at the time it was horrible and anytime it rained I was liable to lose my connection.

    I had Dish Network at the time so the only reason I used TW was for internet so I can't speak for their tv service.

    Currently we have Grande cable and I'm not really in love with their lineup or anything else, but we get it for free so I can't complain much. For internet we have ATT&T and its been great. We got a free wireless router with it and we've only had one short outage in the time that we've had it. The speed is no worse than anything I ever had with cable, so I guess for us it works out better.

    Its also cheaper!
    Grande is the best in SA, due to the fact that where they provide service, has just had brand new fiber optics laid in front of your house.

    Time Warner is the second, due to the fact they normally will run you at 600kb/sec on a maxed download ... the line problems that you're talking about, with rain, were due to old piping that the cable is run through. Easily fixable by calling them and complaining, took about 6 months of doing it at my dad's old house before they finally repaired it.

    ATT/SBC ... sucks. Period. ty techs (worse than the TW stories here,) crappy connection speed, and it's all relative to the distance from the area "hub."

    As stated above, tell TW that you will go to ATT cause they have the deal for like $12.99/mo for a year, and they'll give you a discount. I threatened to cancel my DVR & such because I got one for $80, but they just discounted me down to $40/mo for all the digi channels + free dvr service/box.

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    My wireless dsl is 54.0 mbps and it's perfectly good. I know I could get faster with a cable modem, but what's the point of having a laptop then? I used to have it connected to a cable modem and it kinda seemed like I was defeating the purpose in a way. I will gladly give up the extra speed for the portability. It still seems pretty damn fast to me, but perhaps I am just not all that picky. I had dialup for years so no complaining from me.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Super G goes 108 Mbps, G goes 54 Mbps. Cable modems can go as fast as 500Mbps, most DSL lines not even a quarter of that. Also, it's not easy to network multiple PCs on DSL.
    Um, say what? We have the 2 destops plugged into the router, and at times there have been as many as 8 laptops hooked up to the network via the wifi connection. Its been easy as pie.

    I'm sure that RR has a higher celing than DSL does, but I doubt it'd ever reach it on a regular basis nor would I need it.

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    After stubbornly hanging onto my free dial up for years, DSL feels lightning quick to me. I can't imagine needing anything faster.

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    After stubbornly hanging onto my free dial up for years, DSL feels lightning quick to me. I can't imagine needing anything faster.
    While I am sure there are some people who need the higher download rate, for most I think it's about having the biggest/best/fastest etc. I know people who buy a whole new computer simply so they can have a larger hard drive. Seriously, if you have to replace your entire system to jump from 140gb's to 180, then you simply need to start buying your porn on dvd.

    Oh, and give me your old desktop

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    We finally broke down and got DSL because I was getting disconnected on the neighbors wifi all the time. And for me, getting disconnected at the wrong time means losing a lot of money. It was stupid not to pay 30 bucks a month because I was losing far more than that because of disconnects.

    Stupid Wifi.

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    My box broke last week and they sent a guy Saturday. They said he'd be here between 8 and 9 but he didn't get here until 3:30...he gave me a free new box, though.

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    Um, say what? We have the 2 destops plugged into the router, and at times there have been as many as 8 laptops hooked up to the network via the wifi connection. Its been easy as pie.
    Hummm...do your two hard connections have unique IP's or are they sharing an IP?

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Sharing the same IP. Its just like a cable setup with the router exept the signal comes from the phone line as opposed to the cable line.

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    Yes, it's just that with routers cable modems assign each computer a unique IPs so that networked systems aren't stepping all over each other. What you have is more like just a network-switch. I've heard that you can 'rent' an additional IP from some DSL providers.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Yes, it's just that with routers cable modems assign each computer a unique IPs so that networked systems aren't stepping all over each other. What you have is more like just a network-switch. I've heard that you can 'rent' an additional IP from some DSL providers.
    No, its a router. The DSL assigns an IP to the router just like anyother router. It has the DSL modem built in.

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    anyone heard of AT&T uverse??? it is bad ass... lots of channels. cable connection, dvr, wireless internet, VOD, etc..the works.. all for 89 bucks! with timewarner i would have been paying $150 a month. the TW person i called, was like, "are you serious?" i will see what i can do, but i doubt we can beat that!" they couldn't.

    http://www.sbc.com/gen/u-verse?pid=7871&cdvn=custom

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    My box broke last week and they sent a guy Saturday. They said he'd be here between 8 and 9 but he didn't get here until 3:30...he gave me a free new box, though.
    if it's time warner, you can always take your old cable box in and switch it out. no need to wait on a tech. tw increased speeds here in austin 9 months to a year ago - i regularly get 600k/s off the news servers and a steady 50k up, which is invaluable. upload on DSL really sucks unless you start paying for a decent upload. it's more important for games and file sharing than anything else though.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    anyone heard of AT&T uverse??? it is bad ass... lots of channels. cable connection, dvr, wireless internet, VOD, etc..the works.. all for 89 bucks!
    I'm ready to make the switch, but they don't have NBA TV yet.

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    I was looking for that (U-verse)...It seems like it'd be a lot cheaper than TW, so I want to look into it.

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    Damnit. Not available.

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