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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    A look at water-boarding...


    Actual waterboards used by the Khymer Rouge.


    September 28, 2006
    This Is What Waterboarding Looks Like


    As Congress has debated legislation that would set up military tribunals and govern the questioning of suspected terrorists (whom the Bush administration would like to be able to detain indefinitely), at issue has been what interrogation techniques can be employed and whether information obtained during torture can be used against those deemed unlawful enemy combatants. One interrogation practice central to this debate is waterboarding. It's usually described in the media in a matter-of-fact manner. The Washington Post simply referred to waterboarding a few days ago as an interrogation measure that "simulates drowning." But what does waterboarding look like?

    Below are photographs taken by Jonah Blank last month at Tuol Sleng Prison in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. The prison is now a museum that do ents Khymer Rouge atrocities. Blank, an anthropologist and former Senior Editor of US News & World Report, is author of the books Arrow of the Blue-Skinned God and Mullahs on the Mainframe. He is a professorial lecturer at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and has taught at Harvard and Georgetown. He currently is a foreign policy adviser to the Democratic staff in the Senate, but the views expressed here are his own observations.
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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Water-boarding in action


    CIA sources say the harshest technique was called "water boarding," in which a prisoner's face was covered with cellophane, and water is poured over it (pictured above) -- meant to trigger an unbearable gag reflex.

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    No permanent damage? Yep, I can support it.

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    According to Brian Ross, waterboarding has also generated intel.

    As a Christian, this technique, yes.

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    Actually, if Adnan or Azzam were captured, I'd very much like to do the waterboarding myself.

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    WWJW?
    Who Would Jesus Waterboard?

    Well, read the Bible, there are dozens of new testament verses demonstrating Christs desire to spread the gospel of torture.

    He was really into that , why do you think Peter freaked so bad when he realized he had denied Jesus 3 times...he was in for it.

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    No permanent damage? Yep, I can support it.
    Damn, Yoni, you nailed it. It was precisely Jesus's teaching that all manners of inflicting pain and suffering are ok as long as there is no permanent damage. It says so in John 3:17.

    And, since Christian means like-Christ, we sure as better follow his teaching!!!!!

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    obey my dog turambar85's Avatar
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    WHOOOO-HOOOO!!! Another great follower of the Lord Jesus Christ!!

    If this keeps up he will feel a lot better, his purpose for coming to Earth will be completed.

    You know, if you don't torture a Muslim, the baby Jesus sheds a single tear.

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    WHOOOO-HOOOO!!! Another great follower of the Lord Jesus Christ!!

    If this keeps up he will feel a lot better, his purpose for coming to Earth will be completed.

    You know, if you don't torture a Muslim, the baby Jesus sheds a single tear.
    Are you trying to make a point, other than the one on top of your head?

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    obey my dog turambar85's Avatar
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    Are you trying to make a point, other than the one on top of your head?
    My point is that Christians absolutely have to accept torture as an acceptable practice.

    If the goal of the Christian is to be like-Christ, and he was such an avid supporter or torture, at least in the scripture, you would be acting sinfull not to torture.

    It is common sense Yonivore, and I am glad to people like you have embraced this special doctrine of love.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Not even knowing that all 14 of the terrorists, upon whom such techniques were used, divulged intelligence that saved lives?

    Possibly even someone in your family?

    And, further knowing that none of the 14 terrorists suffered any permanent physical harm?

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    Can you believe in the separation of church and state while arguing for a Christian policy of war?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Wasn't one of the reasons we invaded Saddam because he was torturing his own people? Meet the new man, same as the old man.

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    My point is that Christians absolutely have to accept torture as an acceptable practice.

    If the goal of the Christian is to be like-Christ, and he was such an avid supporter or torture, at least in the scripture, you would be acting sinfull not to torture.

    It is common sense Yonivore, and I am glad to people like you have embraced this special doctrine of love.
    I see.

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    Wasn't one of the reasons we invaded Saddam because he was torturing his own people? Meet the new man, same as the old man.
    We're not pushing people off buildings, hacking off limbs, or feeding them into plastics shredders. Nor are we raping their children and wives in front of them before we kill them and deliver their body parts home in plastic bags.

    And, I doubt many of Saddam Hussein's victims were tortured for intelligence gains but, instead, just to satisfy his sick mind.

    Your moral equivalency is as sickening as Saddam Hussein's torture techniques. Nice new low there Dan.

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    It's pretty telling that no one disputed the waterboarding's being described as torture.

    You guys are slipping.

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    Not even knowing that all 14 of the terrorists, upon whom such techniques were used, divulged intelligence that saved lives?

    Possibly even someone in your family?

    And, further knowing that none of the 14 terrorists suffered any permanent physical harm?
    Ok, while I may agree with you that the Lord Jesus Christ was an avid supporter of state torture, your facts seems sketchy at best...

    Where is your proof that all 14 water-boarders tortured saved lives?

    And why is physical harm all important? What about the fact that some that have been Christianly tortured have suffered serious future side effects, like inability to shower or be in the rain for fear or dying.

    But, at least we are better than them! We torture in the name of the true God!

    Those sick, Godless bas s who torture in the name of a false diety...

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Can you believe in the separation of church and state while arguing for a Christian policy of war?
    I'm sure even theologians have trouble with that question when deciding if a soldier should be made to kill by the State if he does not agree with the cause of the war. However, my question is, could you torture on Monday-Friday and go to church on Sunday with a clear conscience?

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    You can be a Christian and pretty much do anything actually. For instance, if I were to go and beat turambar85 relentlessly while shouting the lords name in vain and banging his mother, I could still be a Christian. Maybe not a good one, but I'd still be a Christian. Really it's the question that is stupid........and hippies, they are stupid too.

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    I'm sure even theologians have trouble with that question when deciding if a soldier should be made to kill by the State if he does not agree with the cause of the war. However, my question is, could you torture on Monday-Friday and go to church on Sunday with a clear conscience?

    HA, just make sure you are Catholic, confess your sins, and everything is alright. In your face satan.

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    I'm sure even theologians have trouble with that question when deciding if a soldier should be made to kill by the State if he does not agree with the cause of the war. However, my question is, could you torture on Monday-Friday and go to church on Sunday with a clear conscience?
    Just because you are a liberal athiest does not mean that you can disrespect these honorable Christians for the supposed hypocrisy of torturing on Friday then preaching the word on Sunday!!! You just can not understand how noble and holy it is to torture for the true God....

    You disgust me

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    I'm against torture, but my Christianity really doesn't have anything to do with it.

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    Hey turambar85, anyone ever tell you that you look like the neighbor from "The Burbs"?

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