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    Chris Matthews said he resigned. No link to that yet.

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    Florida Republican Congressman Mark Foley Submits Letter of Resignation

    By DAVID ESPO
    AP Special Correspondent

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., submitted a letter of resignation from Congress on Friday in the wake of questions about e-mails he wrote a former male page, according to a congressional official.

    Foley, 52, had been considered a shoo-in for re-election until the e-mails surfaced in recent days.

    Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

    Foley's election opponent, Democrat Tim Mahoney, has called for an investigation.

    The correspondence took place in August 2005 after the boy gave Foley a handwritten thank you note before returning to Louisiana.

    Foley was running for re-election to a seventh term. He has represented his district, which includes West Palm Beach, since 1995. Florida Republicans could replace Foley on the ballot.

    In his exchanges with the boy, Foley asked how old he was, what he wanted for his upcoming birthday, how he was doing after Hurricane Katrina and for a photo.

    The e-mails were posted Friday on Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington's Web site after ABC News reported their existence. The group asked the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to investigate the exchange Foley had with the boy, who served as a page for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La.

    "The House of Representatives has an obligation to protect the teenagers who come to Congress to learn about the legislative process," the group wrote, adding that the committee, "must investigate any allegation that a page has been subjected to sexual advances by members of the House."

    According to the CREW posting, the boy e-mailed a colleague in Alexander's office about Foley's e-mails, saying, "This freaked me out." On the request for a photo, the boy repeated the word
    "sick" 13 times.

    He said Foley asked for his e-mail when the boy gave him a thank you card. The boy also said Foley wrote that he e-mailed another page.

    "he's such a nice guy," Foley wrote about the other boy.

    "acts much older than his age...and hes in really great shape...i am just finished riding my bike on a 25 mile journey now heading to
    the gym...whats school like for you this year?"

    In other e-mails, Foley wrote, "I am back in Florida now...its nice here...been raining today...it sounds like you will have some
    fun over the next few weeks...how old are you now?" and "how are you weathering the hurricane...are you safe...send me an email pic
    of you as well."

    What the boy wrote to Foley, who is single, wasn't available. The e-mails were sent from Foley's personal account, which Foley spokesman Jason Kello says he uses to communicate with many people, including Gov. Jeb Bush.

    "They have taken these e-mails out of context in order to smear a good man," said Kello, who described the exchange as "nonchalant, casual." He said Foley didn't save his e-mails or the boy's response.

    Efforts to reach the boy were unsuccessful, but he told the St. Petersburg Times last November, "I thought it was very inappropriate. After the one about the picture, I decided to stop e-mailing him back." The Times didn't publish the comments until Friday.

    The campaign for Mahoney, who trails Foley in the polls, said it didn't release the e-mails and wouldn't make them part of the campaign. In a statement released by Mahoney spokesman Jessica
    Santillo, the campaign referred to the boy as an "alleged victim."

    "The seriousness of these allegations goes far beyond the for tat of a political campaign," Santillo said. "This is a matter for the appropriate authorities to investigate. I believe
    Mr. Foley deserves the benefit of the doubt until these allegations are proven true or false."

    Alexander's chief of staff, Royal Alexander, didn't return several calls to his cell phone Thursday and Friday seeking comment. Alexander's press secretary, Adam Terry, didn't return an
    e-mail or phone messages. Alexander and Foley wouldn't talk to reporters while the House was in session Thursday and Foley didn't return calls to his cell phone.

    Kello disputed the claim that the e-mails weren't distributed by the Mahoney campaign.

    "They've been shopping this around to reporters for weeks now. They want a headline and that's it. It's a political smear campaign of the worst kind," Kello said.

    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/b...?storyid=65937

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    Regardless of his intentions, dude should have known that repeated emails to a teenager of any gender would get him in hot water.

    Sure seems like most politicos check their common sense at the door.

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    "They have taken these e-mails out of context in order to smear a good man,"

    If he's not a closet Log Cabin/Lincoln/pooper-chute Repug, then why did he resign? Too pussy to fight it?

    I figure Foley is going to be outed very soon, and he knew it.

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    Oh my....

    That first story didn't even approach the real stuff...

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...ive_the_s.html

    But, according to several former congressional pages, the congressman used the Internet to engage in sexually explicit exchanges.

    They say he used the screen name Maf54 on these messages provided to ABC News.

    Maf54: You in your boxers, too?
    Teen: Nope, just got home. I had a college interview that went late.
    Maf54: Well, strip down and get relaxed.

    Another message:

    Maf54: What ya wearing?
    Teen: tshirt and shorts
    Maf54: Love to slip them off of you.

    And this one:

    Maf54: Do I make you a little horny?
    Teen: A little.
    Maf54: Cool.

    The language gets much more graphic, too graphic to be broadcast, and at one point the congressman appears to be describing Internet sex.

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    I guess NAMBLA has lost a political supporter............career suicide.

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    Scratch another GOP seat. They can put someone else on the ballot, but it's 4 1/2 weeks before the election. This wasn't even a seat they were thinking of losing.

    "Sorry, the guy we told you to vote for last time turned out to be a . Please vote for this guy that we tell you to." Yeah, right.

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    Looks like yet another write-in candidate for the GOP.

    Just give the Demos the House by default.

    2006 mid-term election results so far: Demos up 2 house seats

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    The GOP child-phedophilia ring certainly runs deeper than just Foley, for instance, House Speaker Dennis Hastert protected Foley for over a year and let him keep working with minors...


    TODAY GOP House Speaker Denny Hastert asked for an investigation as to whether other pages were abused, why didn't he do this a year ago?
    by John in DC - 9/29/2006 09:19:00 PM

    ABC reported this evening that GOP House Speaker Denny Hastert has asked for an investigation to make sure other pages weren't sexually harassed or abused. But the House leadership was told almost a year ago about Mark Foleys' hanky-panky online communications with underage pages and Hastert did nothing. Why didn't Hastert do an investigation at the time to make sure the pages were all right? Why did Hastert leave Foley in charge of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children when he knew Foley had some possible personal issues involving the exploitation of children? Why did Hastert let Foley remain in the House leadership for a good year after he knew about these accusations? Cruising underage kids isn't a disqualifier for being in the House leadership? Why did Denny Hastert let Foley remain anywhere near underage pages at all?
    Would you let your kids near someone like Foley if you had been warned a year ago? Then why did Denny Hastert? The parent of every kid who was a page in the last year should be livid at the Republicans right now.

    And where is our wonderful religious right? Or doesn't the sexual exploitation of children bother them when it's their own politicians who are doing the exploiting and the covering up?

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    ^^^

    Our children are not safer.

    It looks like the Republicans "cut and run" on the children.

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    ^^^

    Our children are not safer.

    It looks like the Republicans "cut and run" on the children.
    Sucks to be the victim,.................. doesn't it SA210?

    Aside all silly dry humor,

    I hope that if this is all true, the congressmen should be incarcerated.

    Maybe you should waterboard him.



    I got it!


    Since waterboarding is so horrible. Let's give the congressmen an option; Waterboarding, or Life in Prison.

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    No Way in could I say anything to support the (-) however If it had been
    leaked earlier that he was GAY I'm sure some folks would have said he was just
    being picked on because of simply being gay.

    oops- There were allegations he was GAY


    It's a basic political premise: Get in front of a potentially damaging story before it overwhelms you. That's certainly what Republican U.S. Senate candidate Mark Foley had in mind when the five-term congressman called an unusual press conference recently.

    Reports that he's gay are about to spread from alternative and gay media outlets to major Florida newspapers, Foley said. He blamed Democratic activists for spreading the rumor and decried the "repulsive" campaign tactic.

    He wanted reporters to know that he won't answer questions about his sexuality; it has nothing to do with his candidacy.

    Don't ask, won't tell.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/01/Pe...cause_Ma.shtml

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    Had he only been gay, it would have been survivable. Just like Jim McGreevy in New Jersey.

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    Than wht didn't he just admit it?

    instead of

    That’s when Foley said the speculation about his sexuality was "revolting and unforgivable."
    and How the H did someone Pro-Choice get elected as a republican?

    What a hypocrite he is
    http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/19/St...outh_cam.shtml

    Enough on this creep

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    Than wht didn't he just admit it?
    Because that wasn't all there was to it. Just like McGreevey.

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    Because that wasn't all there was to it. Just like McGreevey.

    What else is there?

    Foley on the Ways and means Com and what hasert wanted from him-Medicare Pgm?

    What Foley did for Bush in Fla-i.e. the count, recount,and count again of the votes?

    Tell us.

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    I think we're talking past each other here. I'm talking only about Foley's actions, not Hastert's apparent inaction. That's a whole different kettle of fish.

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    Scary.

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    Had he only been gay, it would have been survivable. Just like Jim McGreevy in New Jersey.
    A Republican? South of the Mason/Dixon line? Surely you jest....Fundies don't vote for known s, and without the Fundy vote, Republicans don't win elections.

    It's a perfect example of using someone's own agenda against them. The GOP MUST cut all support for him and pressure him to resign, thereby opening a seat for the Dems. It's also a perfect example of Don't where you eat. Barney Frank was at least smart enough to keep it away from work.

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    Extremely disappointing. What a s bag. Good riddance.

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    Extremely disappointing. What a s bag. Good riddance.
    Amen to that.

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    Looks like Dennis Hastert may have some explaining to do...

    GOP Rep. Says He Told Hastert of Foley
    Sep 30, 5:31 PM (ET)
    By DEVLIN BARRETT

    WASHINGTON (AP)
    - Rep. Thomas Reynolds, head of the House Republican election effort, said he told Speaker Dennis Hastert after learning a fellow GOP lawmaker sent inappropriate messages to a teenage boy.

    Reynolds, R-N.Y., was told months ago about e-mails sent by Rep. Mark Foley and is now defending himself from Democratic accusations that he did too little. Foley, R-Fla., resigned Friday after ABC News questioned him about the e-mails to a former congressional page and about sexually suggestive instant messages to other pages.

    <snip>

    "Despite the fact that I had not seen the e-mails in question, and Mr. Alexander told me that the parents didn't want the matter pursued, I told the speaker of the conversation Mr. Alexander had with me," Reynolds said.
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    GOP Leader Rebuts Hastert on Foley

    Reynolds: Speaker Knew of E-Mails in Spring


    By Jonathan Weisman and Charles Babington
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, October 1, 2006; A01

    House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) was notified early this year of inappropriate e-mails from former representative Mark Foley (R-Fla.) to a 16-year-old page, a top GOP House member said yesterday -- contradicting the speaker's assertions that he learned of concerns about Foley only last week.

    Hastert did not dispute the claims of Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (R-N.Y.), and his office confirmed that some of Hastert's top aides knew last year that Foley had been ordered to cease contact with the boy and to treat all pages respectfully.

    Reynolds, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, became the second senior House Republican to say that Hastert has known of Foley's contacts for months, prompting Democratic attacks about the GOP leadership's inaction. Foley abruptly resigned his seat Friday.

    House Majority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Washington Post on Friday that he had learned in late spring of inappropriate e-mails Foley sent to the page, a boy from Louisiana, and that he promptly told Hastert, who appeared to know already of the concerns. Hours later, Boehner contacted The Post to say he could not be sure he had spoken with Hastert.

    Yesterday's developments revealed a rift at the highest echelons of House Republican ranks a month before the Nov. 7 elections, and they threatened to expand the scandal to a full-blown party dilemma.

    ( the Holier-Than-Thou party of Bible Thumpers, Evagelicals, and various religious radicals is, huh, just as un- ing-holy as anybody else? Shocked, shocked! )

    Only after Reynolds's definitive statement did Hastert concede yesterday that he may have been notified of some of the questionable activities of Foley, 52, who had co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. Hastert said, however, that he knew nothing of the sexually explicit instant messages that became public Friday when ABC News and other news outlets reported them. The messages apparently were exchanged with youths other than the 16-year-old.

    Hastert's aides learned in the fall of 2005 only of e-mail exchanges that House officials eventually deemed "over-friendly" with the Louisiana teenager, the speaker's office said yesterday in a lengthy statement. "While the Speaker does not explicitly recall this conversation" with Reynolds, the statement said, "he has no reason to dispute Congressman Reynolds's recollection that he reported to him on the problem and its resolution."

    Boehner and Reynolds said their offices learned of the Foley e-mails months ago from Rep. Rodney Alexander (R), who sponsored the page from his northeastern-Louisiana district.

    "Rodney Alexander brought to my attention the existence of the e-mails between Mark Foley and a former page of Mr. Alexander's," Reynolds said yesterday. "Despite the fact that I had not seen the e-mails in question, and Mr. Alexander told me that the parents didn't want the matter pursued, I told the speaker of the conversation Mr. Alexander had with me."

    GOP leaders have said they referred the matter promptly to Rep. John M. Shimkus (R-Ill.), who heads a three-lawmaker panel that oversees the House page program.

    Shimkus questioned Foley, but at that time, he had seen only su iously friendly e-mails, not the explicit instant messages revealed recently. In one e-mail to the former page, for example, Foley asked for a picture of him. The boy reportedly told an associate that he considered the request to be "sick," but Foley convinced Shimkus that the exchanges were innocent, Shimkus and Republican leaders said.

    Republicans appeared to have kept the matter under wraps
    . Rep. Dale E. Kildee (Mich.), the only Democrat on the House Page Board, said yesterday: "I was never informed of the allegations about Mr. Foley's inappropriate communications with a House page, and I was never involved in any inquiry into this matter."

    ( Was the page wearing blue Dockers?
    Were there any stains?
    Did any of the pages Linda Tripp know?
    Did the GOP LIE about ILLEGAL sex between an adult and a minor? )

    Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, questioned yesterday why Alexander had gone to the House Republicans' chief political operative, rather than to other party leaders. "That's to protect a member, not to protect a child," Emanuel said.

    With his statement, Reynolds, who is locked in a difficult reelection campaign, signaled he was unwilling to take the fall alone amid partisan attacks that were becoming increasingly vituperative. The Democratic National Committee yesterday issued a statement asking "Why Did Tom Reynolds Cover Up Congressman's Sex Crimes?" It continued: "While the shocking [online] exchanges produced an immediate uproar that cost Congressman Foley his job, at least one member of the House Republican leadership had known about the situation for months and did nothing about it: . . . Reynolds."

    Republican insiders said Reynolds spoke out because he was angry that Hastert appeared willing to let him take the blame for the party leadership's silence.

    A House GOP leadership aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing his job, said that Reynolds realizes he has taken a shot at his leader but that it is understandable.

    "This is what happens when one member tries to throw another member under a bus," the aide said.

    Last night, Hastert, Boehner and Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said in a statement that Foley's communications with former pages are "unacceptable and abhorrent," and that his resignation "must now be followed by the full weight of the criminal justice system." The statement did not suggest how that might happen, but added that the three have "asked for the creation of a toll-free telephone number for House pages, parents, grandparents and staff to confidentially report incidents of concern."

    The House clerk's office "has taken possession of Congressman Foley's office, and Capitol police officers have been posted in front of his office around-the-clock" to preserve Foley's records and correspondence, said Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean.

    Foley's actions have jeopardized a House seat that Republicans had considered safe this fall. Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) headlined a fundraiser yesterday for the district's Democratic nominee, Tim Mahoney, whose race has rocketed to national prominence with Foley's resignation. Charlie Cook, editor of a nonpartisan newsletter that tracks congressional races, said that if Foley's name stays on the ballot, "it's going to be hard for Republicans to hold on to the seat." But a GOP loss might last only two years, he said, since the district typically votes Republican in presidential races.

    The chronology released by Hastert's office begins in late 2005, after Alexander had alerted colleagues of Foley's e-mail exchanges with the former page, who had returned to Louisiana. Hastert aide Tim Kennedy "immediately discussed the matter with his supervisor, Mike Stokke, Speaker Hastert's Deputy Chief of Staff," the statement says. Also brought into the talks were Hastert's staff attorney, Ted Van Der Meid, and the House clerk.

    The clerk and Shimkus "immediately met with Foley to discuss the matter," the chronology says, and they told Foley "to immediately cease any communication with the young man. . . . Mindful of the sensitivity to the parents' wishes to protect their child's privacy and believing that they had promptly reported what they knew to the proper authorities," it says, "Kennedy, Van Der Meid and Stokke did not discuss the matter with others in the Speaker's Office."

    Republicans fear the scandal, coming in the wake of indictments of three GOP congressmen this year, might add to the public's unrest at the party's image and conduct, and some House members yesterday joined in the chorus of dismay and scorn.

    ( might? )

    "I don't think it will be just conservative voters that will shake their heads when they hear about this," said Rep. Jim McCrery (R-La.).

    "As the author of laws designed to protect children on the Internet, I was appalled at the recent revelations that a member of Congress engaged in reprehensible behavior toward young people connected to the congressional page program," said Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.). "Congress should thoroughly investigate this matter and, in cooperation with law enforcement authorities, support all proper legal action."

    ( and if you, self-serving bas , weren't author of blah blah, you wouldn't be appalled? )

    Rich Galen, a Republican political strategist, worried that voters might lump Foley's name with former representatives Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio), Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.), all of whom were forced to resign or were indicted amid various scandals this year.

    ( might? )

    "This sense of en lement that members of Congress can do anything to anyone or for anyone has got to end," Galen said.

    ( but it won't )

    Staff writer R. Jeffrey Smith and staff researcher Magda Jean-Louis contributed to this report.

    © 2006 The Washington Post Company
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    They're afraid. They pretend to be outraged, but it's fear in diguise. He dressed correctly, voted as they wanted, and said the right things. They thought he was one of them. Now, they doubt themselves.

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