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Yes. Apparently he lived across the street from it or right next door (or as next door as you can get out on a country road) and in his letters he made it very clear he wanted to harm very young girls.
5 girls have died already... man I don't know why this whole thing affected me so much, but it just breaks my heart. I have a 10 year old niece and I love her to death, to think some er could do such a thing to someone like her is... well let me put it this way, I'm not catholic nor do I normally believe in god, but I found myself compelled to pray for these girls last night. This is some ed up !
Yes. Apparently he lived across the street from it or right next door (or as next door as you can get out on a country road) and in his letters he made it very clear he wanted to harm very young girls.
damn amish folk
The shooter was not Amish. He was american .. or "english" as the amish call non-amish folks.
You're an idiot.
"The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep. Remember. Miles to go before I sleep."
I just heard some of the this guy had with him. WTF were his real intentions!?!?
He had 2 tubes of KY Jelly. Scary as .
you've got to be ting me. Why don't you read the entire post before making stupid assumptions. I'm not Catholic, nor am I religious, what I meant was this thing is so tragic it almost feels like I should be praying for these girls, and I'm NOT EVEN RELIGIOUS! GET IT?? besides, I've never prayed in my life, so I wouldn't know how to start.
All I know is I was in my bed and thinking "if there is anything or anyone out there, I hope he helps those girls through the pain that lunatic put them through".
I guess the sentiment isn't what counts huh? its the wording
SICK MOTHER ER!!!
(CNN) -- Pennsylvania schoolhouse killer Charles Carl Roberts IV said he molested minor family members 20 years ago and was dreaming about molesting again, police said Tuesday.
Roberts' assault Monday killed five girls and wounded five others, police said, before he killed himself. Police have been trying to determine the motive behind the attack by talking to family members and analyzing suicide notes.
Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Roberts may have targeted the school for its girl students and -- given the various items found in the school -- intended to molest the children. (Watch police describe the molestation confession -- 1:34)
He said KY Jelly lubricant was found in the schoolhouse where the assault occurred but there is no evidence that the victims were sexually assaulted in any way.
"It's very possible, when he talks about doing the things and having dreams for the last two years about doing things that he did 20 years ago ... he perhaps planned, with the kind of wood and eyebolts and flex cuffs and KY Jelly and other things, it's very possible that he intended to victimize these children in many ways prior to executing them and killing himself," Miller said.
Roberts also said he was mad at God for the death of his premature baby, Elise, born nine years ago, Miller said.
Miller said Roberts called his wife Monday morning and said, "'I am not coming home. The police are here.'" (Watch police describe timeline of crime -- 6:42
Then Miller said Roberts stated, "'I molested some minor family members, family members that were 3 or 4 years old, 20 years ago.'"
"Roberts mentioned in his suicide note that he was having dreams of molesting again," Miller said.
Miller said both sides of Roberts' family were interviewed, including his parents, and his wife, and they said they had no knowledge of any molestation by Roberts affecting any family member or anyone else.
Two of the girls died overnight from gunshot wounds suffered in the assault by the 32-year-old truck driver on students at the tiny farmland school in southeastern Pennsylvania. At least five other girls remain hospitalized.
Co-workers said Roberts had stopped chatting and joking in recent days.
The commercial milk truck driver lived in nearby Bart, Pennsylvania, with his wife and three children.
Roberts barricaded himself in the schoolhouse with a 9 mm pistol, a shotgun and a bolt-action rifle -- and more than 600 rounds of ammunition, police said. In another sign that Roberts was prepared for a long standoff, he also brought a roll of toilet paper, police said. He had no known criminal history, said Miller. (Watch the arsenal that Roberts brought to the school -- 2:23)
During the attack, Roberts released 15 boys and three women with infants and then told remaining female students to line up in front of the blackboard, Miller said. Roberts then tied the girls' feet together, Miller said. A teacher who was released was able to alert authorities, Miller said, and police rushed to the school.
13-year-old victim's condition upgraded
Two girls critically injured in the attack died early Tuesday, hospital and state police officials told CNN. The other three victims -- two girls and a teenager -- died soon after the attack, Miller said. (Watch what happened in schoolhouse, community's reaction -- 2:21
At Hershey Medical Center, a 6-year-old girl remained in critical condition Tuesday and a 13-year-old girl was upgraded from critical to serious condition, said hospital spokesman Sean Young.
Families of both girls were maintaining a vigil at their hospital bedsides and the 13-year-old was "exchanging non-verbal communication" or "eye-communication" with her family, said another spokesman, Matt Wayne.
"There is reason for optimism, but at the same time it would be conjecture to say she's out of the woods, so to speak," Young said.
Three patients -- ages 8, 10, and 12 -- remain in critical condition at Philadelphia's Children's Hospital, officials told CNN early Tuesday.
Wife: 'Not the Charlie I've been married to''
On Monday, a man who said he was a friend of the Roberts family, Dwight Lefever, read a statement attributed to the gunman's wife, Marie Roberts, according to CNN affiliate WGAL.
"The man that did this today was not the Charlie I've been married to for almost 10 years. My husband was loving, supportive, thoughtful. All the things you'd always want and more. He was an exceptional father," the statement said.
A White House spokesperson said the president was "deeply saddened and troubled by the recent school violence" and that the administration would convene a conference on the subject next week.
It was the nation's third deadly school shooting in a week, following the killing of a 16-year-old girl by a 53-year-old man in Bailey, Colorado, and the shooting death of a principal at a school in Madison, Wisconsin.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/ami...ing/index.html
"A White House spokesperson said the president was "deeply saddened and troubled by the recent school violence" "
aw, such a very senstive, touchy-feely guy, about US human beings, anyway.
WTF!? this dude seems taken out of a Stephen King novel
dude, no offence, but don't make this political alright!?, keep that to yourself once in a while bro, its not going to kill you"A White House spokesperson said the president was "deeply saddened and troubled by the recent school violence" "
aw, such a very senstive, touchy-feely guy, about US human beings, anyway.
"don't make this political alright!"
the WH has already made it politcal, alright?
it was an f'n statement for crying out loud. You really think they don't feel for those girls??
The statement could have been with exactly the same pro-forma effect:
"dubya extends his deepest condoleances to the victims' families and their Amish communities"
... without the self-serving political crap about dubya's for-press-release emotions.
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He certainly isn't looking for their party-line vote, in case you haven't noticed... the Amish communities abstain from voting in federal or state elections...
Church members visited with the victims' families Tuesday, preparing meals and doing household chores, while Amish elders planned the funerals. An Amish woman who helped comfort family members said they were being sustained by prayer.
"It's a tragedy we've never seen before," said the woman, whose father was a church bishop. Like many Amish, she declined to give her name. "They said it was a happy school," she said. "The children were happy, the teachers were happy."
Roberts, from the nearby town of Bart, was not Amish and did not appear to have anything against the Amish, Miller said. He said Roberts was bent on killing girls and apparently figured he could succeed at the serene schoolhouse.
Dwight Lefever, a Roberts family spokesman, spoke at a community prayer service Tuesday evening and said he was at the home of Roberts' father when an Amish neighbor came to comfort the family.
"He stood there for an hour, and he held that man in his arms, and he said, 'We will forgive you,'" Lefever said. "He extended the hope of forgiveness that we all need these days."
Sam Stoltzfus, 63, an Amish woodworker who lives a few miles away from the shooting scene, said his grandchildren were full of questions when they came home from another Amish school.
"They were terrified," said Stoltzfus, whose son took the grandchildren to school Tuesday morning so they wouldn't have to walk by themselves. "They wanted to know: What was wrong with him? Why was he doing that?"
Stoltzfus said the victims' families will be sustained by their faith.
"We think it was God's plan and we're going to have to pick up the pieces and keep going," he said. "A funeral to us is a much more important thing than the day of birth because we believe in the hereafter. The children are better off than their survivors."
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Associated Press Writer Michael Rubinkam contributed to this report.
There is much to learn from these communities... on a deeper humanistic level...
You have to consider that. Didn't the same thing happen after Columbine? That triggered a whole series of other school shootings months after.
Very sad. I was watching the local news coverage. Our mayor was there and he said that the funeral for the two sisters will be today. They were only 7 or 8 years old I believe...
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