Mall/Fashion culture disgusts me.

[Clandestino]

personally, i just the malls and shopping.. i haven't been in years.. and yes, i hate kids who wear like that too.. they have no idea who che is.. and i hate the little fugging skaters in my neighborhood who are a bunch of little white kids and started spray painting their names and anarchy and that damn little circleA/star/whatever it is on the street.. they are so bad they spray it on the road..

but sweatshop labor...i can't argue with that.. if we knew the conditions that most of the stuff were made in we'd be walking around naked...

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, I don't think you know what you're talking about. If these "sweatshops" are so bad, why are there thousands of people lined up to try and get a job at them? A big problem with this line of thinking is that we tend to generalize American standards over the population of the rest of the world. I know that footwear factory jobs in Asia are highly sought after. The people in these countries definitely do not think of these jobs as being oppresive.

Tlong, and opium is the largest export of Afghanistan, but it's still illegal in the United States.

The fact is that we have the standards in America for a reason. I don't expect American minimum wage to be paid in places where that's the average yearly income. But I also don't expect my shoes to be made by some 12 year old for 20 cents a day because Nike shipped the factory overseas to avoid paying American Wages, yet was able to give their CEO's an astonomical raise.

I'm using a generic made up situation, but the scary thing is it's not too far off.

Do you remember the days when Wal Mart sold nothing but American goods? Gone. Walk into American Eagle and I dare you to find a shirt that is actually made in America. I've tried, and I succeed. On about the 30th clothing Item checked after 20 minutes. Maybe they should be Not So American Eagle. Same thing goes for Nike shoes. Find some made in America, I don't know if I have recently. New Balance manages to do it, though I'm sure that'll change when Nike buys them out too. I admit, I'm wearing Nike's right now. But they were bought like 4 or 5 years ago.

I'm not opposed to corporations making money but I am opposed to child labor and shipping jobs overseas to conditions that are illegal here(with the obvious exception of wage. I don't expect forgien work locations to be held to American wage standards).

Honestly, Duff got one point right. That was only a portion of my gripe. The rest of the targeted marketing and how easily our population falls for it, and the insulting use of icons like Che Guevara were other aspects of my fest.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny, it seems to me that you need to take a chill pill. I mean there are a lot more nobler causes to get all riled up about than teenager clothing apparel.

I'm not planning on making it a focus of my life anytime soon. The everlasting virgin just annoyed me with his initial post.

[tlongII]

Tlong, and opium is the largest export of Afghanistan, but it's still illegal in the United States.

The fact is that we have the standards in America for a reason. I don't expect American minimum wage to be paid in places where that's the average yearly income. But I also don't expect my shoes to be made by some 12 year old for 20 cents a day because Nike shipped the factory overseas to avoid paying American Wages, yet was able to give their CEO's an astonomical raise.

I'm using a generic made up situation, but the scary thing is it's not too far off.

Do you remember the days when Wal Mart sold nothing but American goods? Gone. Walk into American Eagle and I dare you to find a shirt that is actually made in America. I've tried, and I succeed. On about the 30th clothing Item checked after 20 minutes. Maybe they should be Not So American Eagle. Same thing goes for Nike shoes. Find some made in America, I don't know if I have recently. New Balance manages to do it, though I'm sure that'll change when Nike buys them out too. I admit, I'm wearing Nike's right now. But they were bought like 4 or 5 years ago.

I'm not opposed to corporations making money but I am opposed to child labor and shipping jobs overseas to conditions that are illegal here(with the obvious exception of wage. I don't expect forgien work locations to be held to American wage standards).

Honestly, Duff got one point right. That was only a portion of my gripe. The rest of the targeted marketing and how easily our population falls for it, and the insulting use of icons like Che Guevara were other aspects of my fest.

The reason that Wal-Mart and American Eagle are selling goods made overseas is due to the fact we live in a global marketplace now. I agree that "illegal" working conditions should be avoided and as a matter of fact they are avoided by most accounts. The use of child labor is done without the knowledge of most American companies that have their goods produced overseas. However, some human rights violations do occur. Overall though the people in these developing nations are much better off for having this business brought to them than if it wasn't.

[TheWriter]

I was at North Star Mall last Monday and there were these two girls (no older than 14) who looked like Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie. Thery were both blonde, looked dittzy as , had these bright colored mismatching clothes (both wearing short skirts) on, re ed brand name purses, and both times I passed by them while shopping, were on thier cell phones. It was some funny , just to see how much attention they wanted.

Sad.

[MannyIsGod]

The reason that Wal-Mart and American Eagle are selling goods made overseas is due to the fact we live in a global marketplace now. I agree that "illegal" working conditions should be avoided and as a matter of fact they are avoided by most accounts. The use of child labor is done without the knowledge of most American companies that have their goods produced overseas. However, some human rights violations do occur. Overall though the people in these developing nations are much better off for having this business brought to them than if it wasn't.

I think more companies should follow the example set by the Gap. They are now running a rigerous campaign to keep from using illegaly produced clothing. I applaud that.

[T Park]

The reason that Wal-Mart and American Eagle are selling goods made overseas is due to the fact we live in a global marketplace now. I agree that "illegal" working conditions should be avoided and as a matter of fact they are avoided by most accounts. The use of child labor is done without the knowledge of most American companies that have their goods produced overseas. However, some human rights violations do occur. Overall though the people in these developing nations are much better off for having this business brought to them than if it wasn't.

Cant say I argue this.


I think companies should use a little more dilligence in seeing how the conditions of there workers are.

What they are paid?? If you had to pay them, what the American wage is, these companies couldnt afford to operate.

Unions have priced all the jobs out of this country.

[Bandit2981]

when i found out my jeans were made using child labor in sweatshops, i wrote a letter to the company, saying reconsider your labor practices...a few months later, i get a letter back saying 'thanks for being a loyal customer' and they included a coupon for a 25% discount on their jeans...so i got smart and wrote letters everyday to all the stores who carry the brand, asking them to stop supporting the companies that use child labor in sweatshops, and i just kept getting letters back thanking me for my concern and more coupons for more discounts on more jeans! so im telling my friend about it, and she flips out saying between all the letters and coupons, some paper company cut down a small forest, driving out 2 indiginous tribes, hundreds of endangered animals, and thousands of plant species, some of which may contain vaccinnes for HIV, cancer and syphyllis! meanwhile, the guys cutting down the trees are 13 year old kids who will work night and day for months, just to save up enough money to buy a pair of jeans made by child labor in sweatshops!! :p

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

when i found out my jeans were made using child labor in sweatshops, i wrote a letter to the company, saying reconsider your labor practices...a few months later, i get a letter back saying 'thanks for being a loyal customer' and they included a coupon for a 25% discount on their jeans...so i got smart and wrote letters everyday to all the stores who carry the brand, asking them to stop supporting the companies that use child labor in sweatshops, and i just kept getting letters back thanking me for my concern and more coupons for more discounts on more jeans! so im telling my friend about it, and she flips out saying between all the letters and coupons, some paper company cut down a small forest, driving out 2 indiginous tribes, hundreds of endangered animals, and thousands of plant species, some of which may contain vaccinnes for HIV, cancer and syphyllis! meanwhile, the guys cutting down the trees are 13 year old kids who will work night and day for months, just to save up enough money to buy a pair of jeans made by child labor in sweatshops!! :p

Isn't this a radio ad?

[Bandit2981]

well its both radio and tv for AABB blood donation

[Spurminator]

[T Park]

Stupid spoiled .


Pretty much sums up Paris Hilton.


Tell me again why that gets so much fame?

[SequSpur]

Because she is named after a beautiful city and a hotel.

But I agree, she is kinda like a hoe.

[Disharmony]

On the subject of fashion: Does anyone know what Baller IDs (the Lance Armstrong ones are exempted from this question) are for? Furthermore, why is it popular and why is everyone wearing it?

[bigzak25]

i got nothing against stupid spoiled s.....but i'd like to have something against them.

my trips to the mall entail parking in the closest parking lot to dillards at northstar, going in, buying a gift card, and leaving. i might have to put the walking shoes on if little s are walking around everywhere.....i'll only look at the 18&up though, promise.

are levi's and dockers made in sweatshops too? nikes as well? what about the big and tall shirts? oh Jesus.....

[Jimcs50]

Stupid spoiled .


Pretty much sums up Paris Hilton.


Tell me again why that gets so much fame?

There is nothing wrong with stupid spoiled s....I'd do em.

[T Park]

and youd have to douse yourself in Dial soap afterwards.


Once again, Paris Hilton, Her dad owns Hilton hotels, and shes a stick .

Why, again, is she popular.


question

[Spurminator]

She's easy to market to best consumer demographic: Women ages 12-30.

[desflood]

She's popular because she's rich. And all I can do is hope she contracts some nasty STD and it kills her before my kids (especially my daughter) are old enough to find out who she is.

[desflood]

Not to sound uncharitable or anything...

[Drachen]

I saw something funny, someone had defaced all of those little green transformer "things" (for electricity), at an apartment complex I lived at, by keying Pentagrams into the green paint. What is so funny about this is they used the star of david (a 6 pointed star) rather than a 5 pointed PENTAgram.