USC in Driver's Seat

[johngateswhiteley]

1. No, I didn't forget Arkansas, but I did count them as a #17 team when SC played them. My fault. They are ranked higher now, so they are a quality win even if SC Mitch Mustain (except for garbage snaps) and Darrin Mcfadden didn't play that game.

2. SC's only quality win RIGHT NOW is against Cal. If SC beats Notre Dame, then they'll have two quality wins, with a solid win against Nebraska. And, with all your rational discrediting Michigan's wins, don't even start with Arkansas when SC didn't play them with Mitch Mustain starting at QB and Darren Mcfadden was out and not playing.

3. If you're going to ask whether SC or Oregon State would win right now, then I ask you with Mitch Mustain and Darren Mcfadden, who would win between Arkansas and SC now? Who is better?


SC's quality wins would be against Cal and Notre Dame, with a solid win against Nebraska. Michigan would have quality wins against Notre Dame and Wisconsin, with a solid win at Penn State.

Spin it how you want to spin it. SC has a great chance at getting to the le game. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that SC is a better team than Michigan. You're the one who thinks winning is all that matters, but then went on to discredit three of Michigan's wins. Yet, when it comes to SC's close wins, it's ok to have reasons for the games being so close.

SC may very well go on to the NC game even if they beat Notre Dame by a close margin. I will just continue to say that it will be debatable if that happens that SC is more deserving than Michigan. And, to not take into consideration the losses of each team is utterly ridiculous. OF COURSE you look at the losses of the teams.

1. McFadden played genius
2. Nebraska is better than Penn State
3. i think USC would beat Ark, but of course it would be closer than 36 points
4. Mustain isn't even the starting QB anymore....and, btw, they are a running team

...shows what you know.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

You do realize that all of PSU's losses have come against top 10 BCS teams right?

You can't say that Nebraska is better than PSU or vice versa.

[JamStone]

Sorry, I remember hearing that Mcfadden didn't play that game. I was wrong. My fault. I'm not sure why I recall hearing he didn't.

Mustain isn't the quarterback anymore. Casey didn't play against USC either.

Saying Nebraska is better than Penn State is as arbitrary as saying SC is better than Michigan or Michigan is better than SC.

Penn State has four losses this year against Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, and Wisconsin, all top 10 ranked teams. They are better than you say they are.

[johngateswhiteley]

You do realize that all of PSU's losses have come against top 10 BCS teams right?

You can't say that Nebraska is better than PSU or vice versa.

sure i can, it's my opinion. and Nebraska's losses were to USC, t.u., and OSU on the road.

[JoeChalupa]

also, why can't USC beat Ohio State? cause you don't think so, cause some experts don't think we can. no thanks, i'll take my chances on the field. i'd rather go through life trying than listening to those who think you can't.

I just haven't been that impressed with USC this year and I truly believe that Michigan is the better team and I'm no expert. Just my opinion.
Since you are clearly a USC fan I'd expect nothing but confidence for your team. Just as I am confident Ohio State will/would beat USC.

[johngateswhiteley]

I just haven't been that impressed with USC this year and I truly believe that Michigan is the better team and I'm no expert. Just my opinion.
Since you are clearly a USC fan I'd expect nothing but confidence for your team. Just as I am confident Ohio State will/would beat USC.

hopefully, we'll play each other and end this debate...we already know you can beat Michigan. can you beat USC...?

[JoeChalupa]

Only time...and the BCS will tell. But I'm rooting for the Notre Dame.

[johngateswhiteley]

Only time...and the BCS will tell. But I'm rooting for the Notre Dame.

scared? want to play Michigan again? ...cause you can only play USC or Michigan.

[JoeChalupa]

No, not scared at all. Like I said, Ohio State would handle USC but I'm also a big Notre Dame fan. Just never been a USC fan, ever and to be honest I'd rather Ohio State play USC since a rematch with Michigan scares me more than USC ever will.

[johngateswhiteley]

No, not scared at all. Like I said, Ohio State would handle USC but I'm also a big Notre Dame fan. Just never been a USC fan, ever and to be honest I'd rather Ohio State play USC since a rematch with Michigan scares me more than USC ever will.

if so, you'll eat those words.

[JoeChalupa]

if so, you'll eat those words.

I wouldn't bet on that.

[JoeChalupa]

And USC has the advantage since they are still playing and Ohio State has to wait a month and half before they can crown their season with another championship.

and that is not an excuse.

[johngateswhiteley]

http://cfn.scout.com/2/593074.html

read it.

[johngateswhiteley]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...pat&id=2670379

read that too.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Reasons #4 and #5 from CFN are exactly why I want a rematch. A flawed system deserves a flawed result.

[samikeyp]

all ya'll!

BOISE STATE BABY!!!!!!!

FEAR THE SMURF TURF!!!!

MUHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

all ya'll!

BOISE STATE BABY!!!!!!!

FEAR THE SMURF TURF!!!!

MUHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BSU should play in the NCG. The regular season means so much, right?

FYI: El Azteco in EL has great margarita specials.

[samikeyp]

Thanks for the tip bro.

We went to a new place called Los Tres Amigos on S. Cedar and it was pretty good. I also found an actual tex-mex place (with real Texans) that serves breakfast tacos....they were pretty good...kept me nice and warm when I was sitting at the top of Spartan Stadium watching the Spartans piss another game away!

[Marklar MM]

Thanks for the tip bro.

We went to a new place called Los Tres Amigos on S. Cedar and it was pretty good. I also found an actual tex-mex place (with real Texans) that serves breakfast tacos....they were pretty good...kept me nice and warm when I was sitting at the top of Spartan Stadium watching the Spartans piss another game away!

You went to a Spartan game. That was your first mistake. I like tacos.

[samikeyp]

Yeah well the tix were free!

I had a better time at the hockey game.

[Marklar MM]

Yeah well the tix were free!

I had a better time at the hockey game.

You wonder why they were free.

[samikeyp]

That much was evident about midway through the 1st Q.


Still it was good to watch live football...even if it was bad.

[johngateswhiteley]

Pat Forde was just on ESPN and said what i have been saying the entire time. If USC wins out they are in as their wins will put them above Michigan in the computer polls...maybe even above Ohio State in a few. the coaches are not going to move USC below Michigan if they win out, it just won't happen. Michigan had their chance...it is (if they win) USC's turn.

[JoeChalupa]

HTF can anybody put USC who lost to freakin' Oregon State above the undefeated Ohio State who beat TWO, yeah that's right, TWO #2 ranked teams!?!? They don't know .

[johngateswhiteley]

HTF can anybody put USC who lost to freakin' Oregon State above the undefeated Ohio State who beat TWO, yeah that's right, TWO #2 ranked teams!?!? They don't know .

...its not they, its a computer that is unemotional and deals solely with #s. and USC can only pass Ohio State if they beat notre dame and ucla by a large margin...otherwise they just pass michigan.