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    Veteran AFBlue's Avatar
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    You're bringing up Derrick Coleman? The greatest underachiever in NBA history? The same Derrick Coleman who couldn't play with anyone but Syracuse?

    Larry Hughes? What was he? 19 when he played with Philly? The guy has had one good season his whole career, and has been nothing but a disappointment the rest of it.

    Is it AI's fault that Joe Smith sucked on Minnesota, Milwaukee, and Denver too?

    Tim Thomas? Mr. 37% from the field now that he's got his contract from the Clippers? He's never had a good season, and has only looked good at times in contract years. Otherwise, he's worthless.

    Keith Van Horn? You're really reaching here. KVH has always been one of the 5 worst players in the league.

    Kenny Thomas? Tyrone Hill? When have they ever been offensive players?
    So you're saying that with a different "#1 Guy", Iguadola and Korver would still average 13ppg as #2 and #3 options??? I seriously doubt that Iguadola is a 13ppg-type player, and I know that Korver can knock down shots if given the open look.

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    If you're lucky enough to have every other player on the team as good defensiveley as that team you don't need a lot of scoring.

    This is the only kind of team that Iverson could have thrived in. Surrounded by guys that did nothing but play defense. Look at the starting 5 for that team.
    pg: Eric Snow
    sg: Iverson
    sf: George Lynch
    pf: Tyrone Hill
    c: Mutombo
    6th: Aaron McKie
    You're arguing right into the point. In 2001, when he had that team, Those players were in their primes and Brown was doing his coaching thing. Which showed that when AI had quality players around him, he has the ability to take the team to the next level. Look at who Philly has managed to put around him since then for the past 6 seasons. The only bright spot is Andre Igodala.

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    PhillyGirl 1Parker1's Avatar
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    I know that Korver can knock down shots if given the open look.
    Have you seen a Sixers game?? Korver gets plenty of open shots. Problem is he is very inconsistent and is one dimensional. More than that, his defense is completely overated but Philly management seems to think he's a diamond in the gem. He's a bench player at best, not a starter and he needs a lot more coaching and training to get better, which he will not get in Philly under Mo Cheeks.

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    PhillyGirl 1Parker1's Avatar
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    Steven A Smith just reported that AI will be traded before the New Year.

    They also showed a statement released by AI that basically stated that Billy King has told him not to come back for the next couple of games and take the time off (he left the Bulls game early the other night with back spasms).

    This whole situation is a real shame. I feel like everyone is blaming AI and making him out to be the bad guy when it reality it doesn't fall on his shoulders completely. I'm sure he's partly responsible for the situation, but other guys and management have also failed just as badly.

    Can't imagine Philly without AI I wonder if anyone is even going to bother going to games if he's traded, at least until Sixers get another high profile/compe ive player.

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    Speaking as a Spurs fan, I hope AI goes to Minny and plays with Garnett, because it would make for some of the best playoff basketball ever.

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    You're arguing right into the point. In 2001, when he had that team, Those players were in their primes and Brown was doing his coaching thing. Which showed that when AI had quality players around him, he has the ability to take the team to the next level. Look at who Philly has managed to put around him since then for the past 6 seasons. The only bright spot is Andre Igodala.
    No, my point is that kind of team doesn't exist anymore. This is the only kind of team that could be successful with Iverson. A team where no one else had to shoot. There is no way you can gather defense first players at every position like that team had. There are very few scorers in the league that could play along side Iverson because he dominates the ball too much.

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    So Philly straight up says...IVO IS DONE HERE...boy that really gives them leverage.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Every player mentioned had talent now they aren't the greatest players to play in the league but they were talented. Put some of those names on the Spurs roster and I bet alongside TD they are better. Look at DA he was great when he was here. Superstars not only fill the stat sheet they bring the best out their teamates. AI's never done that.
    That's like talking bad about Duncan because Steve Smith, Raja Bell, and Hedo Turkoglu were crap as Spurs.

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    When was Raja Bell a Spur again?

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