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  1. #26
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Uhhhhh, the Cowboys already lost in the playoffs. They aren't that good.

  2. #27
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    lol dirk4mvp, you know what I mean.

    They would be tops in the East without AJ though, definetly.

  3. #28
    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    Suns do play defense - they just run at a faster pace than everyone else so they give up more points.

    In 1985, the Los Angeles Lakers won 62 games, scoring 111 PPG and giving up 104 PPG. They also won the championship that year.

    This year, the Suns are on pace to win 62 games, scoring 111 PPG and giving up 103 PPG. The playoffs haven't happened yet.

  4. #29
    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    It wasn't until the 90's that teams discovered defense. Weight lifting was probably a big part of the improvement in that area. A lot of those 80's players weren't that strong.

  5. #30
    we rang stretch's Avatar
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    Suns do play defense - they just run at a faster pace than everyone else so they give up more points.

    In 1985, the Los Angeles Lakers won 62 games, scoring 111 PPG and giving up 104 PPG. They also won the championship that year.

    This year, the Suns are on pace to win 62 games, scoring 111 PPG and giving up 103 PPG. The playoffs haven't happened yet.
    use some logic, dipwad. while the Lakers gave up 104 ppg, was that the 5th worst scoring defense in the league? i strongly doubt it, considering it was very normal for almost all teams in the league to score 100+ points every night. nowadays, most games are in the mid to high 90's.

  6. #31
    Believe.
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    Dallas is so good because they got an all-star coming off the bench.

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    18,797 Strong THE SIXTH MAN's Avatar
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    I thought amarelooms new all there is to basketball? Why is he asking questions like a n00b?

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    Laugh all you want but I really do believe other then hiring AJ as the coach that getting Dampier and Diop were huge for the mavs. Before they got those two guys they had no centers just 6'8-6'9 guys playing out of position at the center spot along with stick figure Bradley. I think the spurs would easily take out the Mavs in 4-5 games if the Mavs didn't have those 2 guys. They make huge difference when it comes to getting rebounds and playing interior defense. Sure they aren't world beaters but without them I think the Mavs would fall apart. Right now those 2 are better thenw hat the spurs have at center.

  9. #34
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    Dallas is so good because they got an all-star coming off the bench.
    stackhouse isn't an allstar (anymore)

  10. #35
    Believe.
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    stackhouse isn't an allstar (anymore)
    What ya talkin' bout? I can put up 20 on any given night. That's why I'm always looking for my shot when I come into the game. Forget Dirk and who else. I can do it myself.

  11. #36
    Optomistic but Realistic MrChug's Avatar
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    I thought we established the common denominator between the Mavs and the Suns??

    Okay kids, one last time. Repeat these two words after me:

    ANAL BLEACHING

  12. #37
    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    I thought we established the common denominator between the Mavs and the Suns??

    Okay kids, one last time. Repeat these two words after me:

    ANAL BLEACHING

  13. #38
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    Because Mark Cuban cried and whined so much when the Pistons and Spurs were winning les by playing tough in-your-face defense. All the whining helped get the league to change the rules to make it more appealing to the sheep (fans) who do not like to watch defensive teams. Now that the rules are in their favor, the Mavs are better.

  14. #39
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Um. Ok?

  15. #40
    Wanna kill all Humans? u2sarajevo's Avatar
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    Dirk showed why Dallas is good tonight. I know it's en vogue for fans of other teams to call him soft... but the man rolled his ankle tonight and got back on the court with basically one leg and carried this team on his back to a win in overtime.

    If you call that soft you've got perception issues.

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    Optomistic but Realistic MrChug's Avatar
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    Dirk showed why Dallas is good tonight. I know it's en vogue for fans of other teams to call him soft... but the man rolled his ankle tonight and got back on the court with basically one leg and carried this team on his back to a win in overtime.

    If you call that soft you've got perception issues.
    So WHO was it that sent the Mavs into overtime? Dirk is a small black guy now? I thought it was someone else, sorry.

  17. #42
    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    So WHO was it that sent the Mavs into overtime? Dirk is a small black guy now? I thought it was someone else, sorry.
    So Dirk was supposed to score every point that mattered? lmao You're just a hater.

  18. #43
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    use some logic, dipwad. while the Lakers gave up 104 ppg, was that the 5th worst scoring defense in the league? i strongly doubt it, considering it was very normal for almost all teams in the league to score 100+ points every night. nowadays, most games are in the mid to high 90's.

    So with your logic it matters what every other team is doing rather than the team itself... so if a team averaged 140 PPG and gave up 110PPG you'd say they suck because they'd be dead last in points allowed per game.. and it wouldn't be close... yet that team would beat the **** out of every team on the schedule. Horrible logic.

    What you really need to look at is the differential... that's the best indicator.... guess who is ahead of the Mavs in that category?

  19. #44
    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    use some logic, dipwad. while the Lakers gave up 104 ppg, was that the 5th worst scoring defense in the league? i strongly doubt it, considering it was very normal for almost all teams in the league to score 100+ points every night. nowadays, most games are in the mid to high 90's.
    Actually, it was the sixth worst in the league... they also led the league in scoring that year...

    I think it proves my previous point that fast break basketball and good shooting isn't a "new fad" - it's traditional basketball... the 90s are what ruined the game.

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