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  1. #101
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    Maybe they should also openly post how much they had to pay in tuition, labs, and books for all of the college and medical school ... and how much they have to pay in malpractice insurance.


    I wouldn't mind if they posted their grades.
    Don't remind me!

    Maybe we should default so we can really live the high life!

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    Obviously, Vulva Las Espuelas has an axe to grind.

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    How are your girls doing, GON?

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    How are your girls doing, GON?
    Hola.

    They are doing outstanding, and my son propelled his 7th grade team to victory in a state-wide "Quiz Bowl" today.

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    This is exactly the kind of response that will get you and your opinion ZERO respect.
    i responded that way because you said you would walk out the door if your doctor told you to take cod liver oil to help you. it was your doctor that told you to do it, no? your doctor went to school for this and it was in his best judgement to prescribe this to you, is it not? you could do your own research and find qualified professionals
    that tested, researched, and do ented their findings and find out for yourself. instead you change doctors to prescribe what YOU feel you need. i thought you were paying the doctor for this. this is my definition of ignorance and that's why i responded that way.


    another thing. have your doctors researched, tested, and docmented their findings for every drug they prescribed to you and your family? i think not. if you can honestly say yes than you must be making a good living for yourself. your doctors base their judgements on to prescribe you medicine by people that have done this research. is this not true?

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    I'm not interested in getting in the argument that is going on at all. But I'm curious, VIVA_LAS_ESPUELAS, if you know of any hypothyroid treatments that are homeopathic (I know there's a lot of related info on the net, just curious if you know something specific.)

    Thanks.

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    Obviously, Vulva Las Espuelas has an axe to grind.
    quite the contrary, guru of neutering. i just want people to be aware of alternative, safer methods of treating illnesses. that's all.

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    I'm not interested in getting in the argument that is going on at all. But I'm curious, VIVA_LAS_ESPUELAS, if you know of any hypothyroid treatments that are homeopathic (I know there's a lot of related info on the net, just curious if you know something specific.)

    Thanks.
    don't laugh, but i do. i really hope you're not patronizing me though. i sent this to my friend who suffers from it and she said it's working. AND SHE'S AN R.N. i'll gladly PM it to you, so that i don't offend anybody here.

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    don't laugh, but i do. i really hope you're not patronizing me though. i sent this to my friend who suffers from it and she said it's working. AND SHE'S AN R.N. i'll gladly PM it to you, so that i don't offend anybody here.
    No, I'm not patronizing you. I'm hypothyroid and the typical medication (synthroid) isn't helping me that much.

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    quite the contrary, guru of neutering. i just want people to be aware of alternative, safer methods of treating illnesses. that's all.
    Horrible use of the word "just."

    Seems to me you are just trying to pat yourself on the back.

    Tell me, WHY did you to use the word "alternative?"

    Was "safer" not suffiicient?

    Are your methods BETTER?

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    Horrible use of the word "just."

    Seems to me you are just trying to pat yourself on the back.

    Tell me, WHY did you to use the word "alternative?"

    Was "safer" not suffiicient?

    Are your methods BETTER?
    well excuse me, professor neuter. i'll work on "just". i could have used alternative, but i didn't. if i'd used safer, i would've been attacked. again. these aren't MY methods, per se. you must read books from the last page to the front because it appears you're doing that to this thread. i don't do any of the research on the methods i've posted. i'm just the messenger. feel free to catch up.

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    all this bickering is making my 'roids flare up. damn, i wish there was a cure for that. if i'd only continued my health insurance so i could go to the doctor.
    good night

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    YES.....the martini is full AND RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    well excuse me, professor neuter. i'll work on "just". i could have used alternative, but i didn't. if i'd used safer, i would've been attacked. again. these aren't MY methods, per se. you must read books from the last page to the front because it appears you're doing that to this thread. i don't do any of the research on the methods i've posted. i'm just the messenger. feel free to catch up.

    I too tend to despise the medical community - I can get a prescription for nearly anything without any real diagnosis.

    ...but, I don't overreact and go around blessing "alternatives."

    ... Except eat sensibly and exercise .... care to add anything?

    Every dollar you don't spend on traditional medicine is a dollar you give to someone else. It would not surprise me to discover you give two dollars.

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    YES.....the martini is full AND RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What is this supposed to mean, anyway?

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    What is this supposed to mean, anyway?
    I think he's talking about the martini glasses next to the thread topic. When it's full, it means it's a hot topic or something.

    Look...I DON"T CARE if you choose to use alternative method to treat your ailments. If it works for you, great. But what you did was post an alternative way for Summers to treat her kid's eczema, and that's fine. However, in that same post, you took the opportunity to get on your soap box and spout that doctors are only conscerned about when they are gonna get their next their next sports car (and several times afterwards). And that's the only reason I rolled my eyes at you after that post. I guess they all play golf too.

    I'm also willing to bet that are plenty of people out there that tried alternative meds and it didn't work for them, but I guess they don't count because what you've read on the internet says it always works.

    Funny how no one has a problem with the ty doctors that perfect all the 'hot girls' everyone likes to look at in all the hot girl threads. I'd say that most had a procedure, or several, done.

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    theres a differenace between homepathic and holistic and most everything Viva has posted has been holistic.

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    There are people with unscrupulous agendas in every profession and the medical world is no exception. That being said, it doesn't mean that every doctor out there is looking to screw you over. If a doctor criticizes a natural treatment that clearly works, I tend to question whether they have the patient's best interests in mind. While I don't spend a lot of time in doctors' offices, the ones that I go to are thrilled that I've been able to treat any ailments with Eastern medicine and I know of one of them who is actually going back to school to learn more about how they can incorporate it into their practices.

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    I too tend to despise the medical community - I can get a prescription for nearly anything without any real diagnosis.

    ...but, I don't overreact and go around blessing "alternatives."

    ... Except eat sensibly and exercise .... care to add anything?

    Every dollar you don't spend on traditional medicine is a dollar you give to someone else. It would not surprise me to discover you give two dollars.
    I don't put full blame on the medical community. You are ultimately the one that takes care of your body and how you treat it. Eating right and exercise certainly help, but there are other steps to take. I know the eyes will be rolling on these, but I ask that you look it up and try for yourself before you start up again. First thing is to get a filter for your shower and sink. I use the Aquasana brand and I definitely saw results immediately. google "flouridation". Kori, you need to google that. Throw away all your non-stick cookware. Throw away your microwave oven. Google "dangers of microwave ovens". STOP USING ARTIFICIAL SWEETNERS!!!!!!!!!!! There's plenty to look up on that one. I'll stop there.

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    There are people with unscrupulous agendas in every profession and the medical world is no exception. That being said, it doesn't mean that every doctor out there is looking to screw you over. If a doctor criticizes a natural treatment that clearly works, I tend to question whether they have the patient's best interests in mind. While I don't spend a lot of time in doctors' offices, the ones that I go to are thrilled that I've been able to treat any ailments with Eastern medicine and I know of one of them who is actually going back to school to learn more about how they can incorporate it into their practices.
    I wish there was more doctors that would do that.

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    "If a doctor criticizes a natural treatment that clearly works"

    As I understand it, doctors cannot recommend procedures, practices, drugs that are not FDA approved. They will get in trouble with their professional bodies/licensing boards, the FDA, and void their malpractice insurance. I can certainly see a doctor recommending (strongly) that a patient not try anything that isn't FDA approved, aka CAM, complementary and alternative medicine, esp if it's going to cost the doctor $1000 in surgery, testing, whatever fees.

    I was surprised to find that the NIH has CAM research:
    http://nccam.nih.gov/

    and many conventional medical research centers are researching phyto-chemicals and mineral compounds. eg, UCLA Med school showed last year that men with prostate cancer quadrupled their PSA doubling time (eg, from 15 to 60 months) with one glass of pomegranate juice each morning ($25/month). Your urologist/surgeon/radiation oncologoist would rather cut out or ablate your prostate for $25K to $50K, or more (proton beam therapy is $137K out-patient)

    CAM probably underfunded since the pharmaco's won't make any money from non-patented products. What the pharmaco's are doing is throwing all kinds of phyto-chemicals and natural chemicals at tissue cultures to see what happens (an extract of tree bark is used for breast cancer). They are also combing pre-scientific ancient medical practices to see if they hold up to scientific scrutiny, eg, Chinese folk medicien, Ayur Veda Indian medicine and practices.

    “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food" -- Hippocrates

    You can eat yourself into sickness and death (like most of the USA) by eating processed from the food/agro industries, or you can eat yourself into health and disease-free final years.

    One of the great advantages of Internet is that there is a tremendous amount of valid information about CAM, but it is mixed in with a bunch hucksterism and snake-oil.

    There is a reason the "neutraceuticals", herbal, natural, phyto-products industry is booming right along with the gouging of patients by conventional medical "care".
    Last edited by boutons_; 01-21-2007 at 09:12 PM.

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    The Cetaphil is good stuff for the kids. My daughter used to get it a lot, but now her instances are very rare. We usually hit up the doc for some samples when that happens now.
    Samples??

    Cetaphil is OTC.

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    with her being on meds for 3 years, HEAVY meds mind you, i don't think it could reverse what damage has been done.
    How do you know the meds are actually causing damage? What damage did these meds do?

    Herbs and natural ingredients can help some problems......but they are not the cure all for everything.

    I would have taken herbs for my astigmatism if that were the case.

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    I would have taken herbs for my astigmatism if that were the case.

    You should have tried this, first ...

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    What is that stuff...plankton?
    I am supposed to eat plankton?

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