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    No they didn't. It was a misreport.

    The Philly paper actually went to the trouble of re-tracting it the next day, saying the Sixers didn't have an interest.
    Whoops...well I guess anytime I saw "interest in Beno" I should've assumed it was false. The point is though, that he could probably get a future pick, expiring contract, and/or 12th man type.

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    Beno for Atkins, straight up

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    Carlos Arroyo would be intriguing. A decent risk, some reward, stands up to the 2008 Plan. Wonder if they'd be packaging Udrih out the other door at the same time. Probably.
    I think Orlando is pretty happy with Arroyo, I saw a piece on him on NBA Inside stuff last week and they were talking him up quite a bit. He would be a great option, but Im not sure if we could package Beno with enough to get him. Bring back Hedo

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    I think Orlando is pretty happy with Arroyo, I saw a piece on him on NBA Inside stuff last week and they were talking him up quite a bit. He would be a great option, but Im not sure if we could package Beno with enough to get him. Bring back Hedo
    Well he's racking up DNPs of late and there are stories about how he's unhappy with the current situation, though he hasn't made a trade request (probably his love of the community - large puerto rican population in central/south florida). He's also costing them $4M to not play. Not saying they're displeased, but they've got a glut of PG and if someone goes...it's probably him.

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    Stipulation: Clips may go into salary dump mode if they think they're out of it and if they can get something in return (pick/prospect).
    that's why I think Cassell is possible. Sterling will begin to dump salaries very soon.

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    that's why I think Cassell is possible. Sterling will begin to dump salaries very soon.
    But what pick/prospect would the Clips want in return and what would the Spurs be willing to give? Just skeptically curious....

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    And would Cassel want to come off the bench? I doubt it

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    And would Cassel want to come off the bench? I doubt it
    Tough to say...I don't think he liked it much when he came off the bench for Livingston earlier in the year, but the Spurs are a championship contender and Tony is an all-star, so the situation would be different.

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    But what pick/prospect would the Clips want in return and what would the Spurs be willing to give? Just skeptically curious....
    they would want to dump salary more than a pick. Cassell is not worth a #1 or any real hot prospect. Beno would have to do.

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    And would Cassel want to come off the bench? I doubt it
    Heard an interview with Cassell on the Jim Rome show. Sam said he wants to play in the league another 2-4 years because he knows he would be a great backup point guard for a contending team.

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    they would want to dump salary more than a pick. Cassell is not worth a #1 or any real hot prospect. Beno would have to do.
    Williams' expiring contract + Beno for Cassell....

    I'd do that in a heartbeat! I just have a hard time believing the Clips would, but the further they slip the more possible it becomes.

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    Clippers are back in the playoff race, I doubt they will trade Cassell.

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    Livingston is overrated.

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    We will never get Rashard Lewis, Allen, Carter and Kidd.
    I would like to se S-Jax in the team one again - so I'll say Barry and Beno for S-JAx.
    Then next year we could get Ely.
    Pietrus and Ellis would be great for the Spurs. Finley fo Pietrus. I don't know who should we trade for Ellis.
    If that doesn't work lets trade Barry and Beno the sucker for Maggette.
    Why would the warriors take finley for pietrus?

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    Livingston is overrated.
    Agreed.

    There's a point when a tall PG becomes too tall and a "pass-first" PG becomes a "can't shoot" PG. You think you're getting Jason Kidd and instead you get Shaun Livingston, a 6'7 rail thin PG that isn't quick enough to guard other PGs but doesn't shoot well enough to be a SG. He's a tweener and not in a good way.

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    Tough to say...I don't think he liked it much when he came off the bench for Livingston earlier in the year, but the Spurs are a championship contender and Tony is an all-star, so the situation would be different.
    Exactly Cassel may not want to come off the bench. Arroyo will just be happy to get out of Orlando and on a good team and into a solid rotation. Coming off the bench won't be a problem for him.

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    Williams + Butler for Arroyo + Garrity + rights to Fran Vazquez (or swap of 1st rd picks)

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    Atkins for Beno, or Williams+ pick for Ariza, either or would work for me

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    Atkins for Beno, or Williams+ pick for Ariza, either or would work for me
    Magic list of untouchables:

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    Why the would Ariza be on that list. In that case bring back Hedo, he is still on the Magic right?

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    Why the would Ariza be on that list. In that case bring back Hedo, he is still on the Magic right?
    Ariza is young, talented, and cheap. They are really in love with his work ethic and scrappy play.

    About Hedo, yeah he's still there and making about $7M a season for the next few. I think he could be had, but it would be a steep price because he starts for them, plays significant minutes, and is a primary offensive weapon.

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    Why the would Ariza be on that list. In that case bring back Hedo, he is still on the Magic right?
    The surprising one for me on that list is Re . I know he was the #11 pick in the draft, but he was injured to start the season and has been in Hill's doghouse since then. The other day he came off the bench to score 15pts or so, but I think he followed that effort up with two DNPs. You'd think he'd be available....but no.

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    I think Jeff Foster would be great here as well, and it probably wouldnt cost to much to bring him over

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    I think Jeff Foster would be great here as well, and it probably wouldnt cost to much to bring him over
    I think they're short on shooters, so:

    Barry for Foster + Armstrong

    Waive Vaughn

    Solves backup PG and rebounder, but loads up frontcourt and leaves hole at backup SG.

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    ANd sg is already kind of weak, so hmmm.....Williams + pick for a Jarvis Hayes type player?

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