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    Don't 3 of the Suns run to a spot beyond the 3pt line on every offensive set? Nash drives and/or pick 'n rolls with Amare or kicks it out to one of the 3 guys? Isn't that pretty much their offense? That definitely doesn't fit Jalen's game but I'd think they could use him in a different way when he was on the court. That guy has always been able to score.
    Bell (6/12 3PTM/A) 44%
    James Jones (2/5 3PTM/A) 35% (over 40% since the old ball came back)
    Barbosa (6/13 3PTM/A) 47%

    *(rounded to nearest whole number for 3PTM/A)

    For his career Rose doesn't even average 1 make per game from 3.

    Those guys are bombers and can make the shot at a high rate. Plus they insinuate themselves into the offense by doing more than just standing in the corner.

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    Bell (6/12 3PTM/A) 44%
    James Jones (2/5 3PTM/A) 35% (over 40% since the old ball came back)
    Barbosa (6/13 3PTM/A) 47%

    *(rounded to nearest whole number for 3PTM/A)

    For his career Rose doesn't even average 1 make per game from 3.

    Those guys are bombers and can make the shot at a high rate. Plus they insinuate themselves into the offense by doing more than just standing in the corner.
    Then what was the point of signing Rose if D'Antoni wasn't going to use his strengths?

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    Then what was the point of signing Rose if D'Antoni wasn't going to use his strengths?
    Got me.

    It seems more like it was signing to prevent other teams from getting rather than addressing team needs.

    Take that Miami!

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    http://www.82games.com/0607/0607PHO.HTM

    For +/- stats. Rose's aren't very great. -13 when he's on the court and +9 when he's off the court.

    As much as I'd like to see Rose play, I'm beginning to wonder about him being on the team.

    He recently gave an interview and said that the Suns offered to let him leave the team to go where he could get PT. But he declined saying he was happy being here.

    But if you watch him play, all he does is run to a corner and stand there until it's time to go play defense. Or is that really the offensive involvement Antoni wants Rose to have when he gets his limited time on the court?

    He isn't a 3 point threat by any means, his career average is 35% which is decent for guy who occassionally launches one.
    My thing is that he played very well in the first few games after they got him (i.e. Utah and Philly are good examples) when they were letting him do his thing. His +/- is negligible because he only gets garbage minutes and usually feeds Burke for some 3pt bombs. I say I want him on the floor in a point-forward sense because he can see the floor well, he's smart, he's a team player, and he could probably back down a few guys at the SF/SG spots and kick out for 3's or hit his pretty decent turnaround jumper.

    I didn't like the signing at first, but when I saw how he meshed pretty well with the team (I thought) in those first few games, I've become one of his biggest advocates. Besides, shouldn't we be supporting some kind of use of the bench at this point for the stretch run/playoffs?

    His veteran leadership will be integral... he's actually been to the Finals before with Indiana. D'Antoni needs to learn and change up the offense when Nash isn't on the floor - Barbosa/Banks aren't good enough PG to run it the way Steve does and a little inside-out game using Amare/Jalen on the block and Bell, Barbosa, Jones spotting up could be very good. I think of Jalen in the old Barkely sense: let him back down a little bit and kick it out if he's double-teamed or he can make a move at the hoop.

    That 92-93 Suns team averaged 113 PPG and they didn't have to use this spread offense with the PG as the focal pt. It's just time to get rid of the Banks/Barbosa experiment at PG and focus on using any of the agile big men on this team (Rose, Diaw, Amare) when Nash is on the bench. They can still outscore everyone if they only get 105 PPG...

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    My thing is that he played very well in the first few games after they got him (i.e. Utah and Philly are good examples) when they were letting him do his thing. His +/- is negligible because he only gets garbage minutes and usually feeds Burke for some 3pt bombs. I say I want him on the floor in a point-forward sense because he can see the floor well, he's smart, he's a team player, and he could probably back down a few guys at the SF/SG spots and kick out for 3's or hit his pretty decent turnaround jumper.

    I didn't like the signing at first, but when I saw how he meshed pretty well with the team (I thought) in those first few games, I've become one of his biggest advocates. Besides, shouldn't we be supporting some kind of use of the bench at this point for the stretch run/playoffs?

    His veteran leadership will be integral... he's actually been to the Finals before with Indiana. D'Antoni needs to learn and change up the offense when Nash isn't on the floor - Barbosa/Banks aren't good enough PG to run it the way Steve does and a little inside-out game using Amare/Jalen on the block and Bell, Barbosa, Jones spotting up could be very good. I think of Jalen in the old Barkely sense: let him back down a little bit and kick it out if he's double-teamed or he can make a move at the hoop.

    That 92-93 Suns team averaged 113 PPG and they didn't have to use this spread offense with the PG as the focal pt. It's just time to get rid of the Banks/Barbosa experiment at PG and focus on using any of the agile big men on this team (Rose, Diaw, Amare) when Nash is on the bench. They can still outscore everyone if they only get 105 PPG...

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