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if anyone could find value there it's sam presti...my question is will the spurs FO allow him to scout domestic talent instead of European talent, as i believe we have held off on American players in order to avoid paying them
You're saying a #28 pick isn't going to be all that great for us?
if anyone could find value there it's sam presti...my question is will the spurs FO allow him to scout domestic talent instead of European talent, as i believe we have held off on American players in order to avoid paying them
Buying Pheonix's draft pick - we should try in my opinion. The worst that can happen is they ask us to take Bank's deal (or somebody else), at which point we can say no. They can't make us take a deal we don't want...
Presti's talents are highly overrated.
So who is available that could do better?
I think Derrick Byars > Demetris Nichols.
And, while he's not nearly as long, Alando Tucker might be a better fit for the Spurs than either of those.
who is alando tucker?
Yikes...is that sarcasm?
Tucker plays for the Badgers and puts up great numbers. He's a freak athletically and sound defensively. Unfortunately his outside game leaves something to be desired...as does his size (6'5 210). I look at him as a Desmond Mason-type player in the pros, but he's aggressive and a hard worker....it wouldn't shock me if he turns out to be more Josh Howard than Mason.
Two reasons why I think they might go domestic this year:
1. They realized that they were missing out on legitimate American (college) prospects because of their lack of scouting in those areas, so they hired a scout to look specifically in that direction. I don't konw how much they will lean to those college players, but at least they'll have more knowledge about them come draft time.
2. In the past few years there hasn't been a need for an immediate contributor / primary bench player. Though the Spurs should still have most of their roster spots spoken for, the players who occupy those spots are aging rapidly and/or have expiring contracts after next season (Bowen, Horry, Finley, Barry, Oberto, Elson). Barry will be a valuable trade chip, Finley might opt out, and Horry might retire.
Point is, there are some legitimate needs for some help in the near future and with only $5M to play with in FA, I think the Spurs should/will look to fill those needs with draft prospects that will not be stashed overseas for a number of years.
3. American players generally take less time to transition to the NBA since they're not used to a different style of play.
Not sure I agree with this. Both leagues primarily use zone defenses, have closer 3pt lines, and are similar talent-wise. I also think that "exposure" to the NBA style of games has truly gone global. I would say your statement rang true a few years ago, but now I'm not so sure.
NCAAs use a lot of zone, but the reliance on athleticism is something foreign players take a while to get used to, if they ever do. There's a real American style of play. It takes a while for any player to transition, unless they're supremely talented. Maybe I'm putting too much stock into it. A Fabricio Oberto would struggle in the NBA as much as Ivan Radenovic might.
that's not right. the 172 lbs are still from the 2005 pre draft camp, then Rudy's weight was in fact 172.
in the past 1 1/2 year he has bulked up a bit and is currently listed at 186 lbs.
still a bit thin, but not as scary thin like in the past. I guess he has a frame that allows him to finally reach 200, so he might one day be close to Manu in this regard.
more of a concern might be, that he is "only" 6-6 in shoes (6-4 3/4 without) and has a far below average wingspan of 6-7 1/2.
this and the fact that his contract with Joventut is another year (a buyout of 1.5 million $ was reported) will cause a drop of Fernandez, maybe to the area when Spurs pick.
if he is there, it would be a no brainer IMO, even if he doesn't adress the major need at SF.
all who have seen him play (and maybe also have seen the young Manu play in Europe) will know what I mean. he is so close to Manu in almost every aspect of the game, that it would be almost an insult to Manu if the Spurs didn't draft Rudy (just kidding). drafting Rudy of cours would only make sense, if Spurs either bring him 2008 as successor of Brent, or trade Brent and bring Rudy after he somehow manages his buyout.
totally agree. especiall the type of player the Spurs need (no star power, just a decent role player) will be there.
I'd dance a jig if we got Rudy. Or the flamenco. Whatever.
so true.
when did he start as assistant director of scouting? 2002? 2003? whenever. wasn't that the moment when the Spurs drafting turned from great to somehow "subpar".
I'll go with the Jive, or perhaps the Samba.
Wasn't D'Antoni involved in scouting Ginobili for the Spurs?
Puting "foreigners" in one category and trying to draw conclusions on them is kinda ignorant.
The same thing that is done with american players should be done with euros players : you should consider that some of them are like HS players, some are like sop res and some are like college senior.
For the 07 draft, 3 "euros" are projected to be first rounders : Splitter, Fernandez and Bellinelli. All three have a lot of experience in great domestic leagues, in euroleague and even with their NT : they have played a lot in leagues light years better than the NCAA. You can't put them in the non nba ready project catergory like Darko if you have at least a basic knowledge of the european games.
he scouted for the Spurs 1999-2000. don't know if he was already responsible when Manu was drafted.
but it would explain a lot. (also the back then great Giricek deal and maybe even Tony, who was picked a year after he left the Spurs)
He's not European, but Yi Jianlin fits that young, relatively inexperienced mold, as does Nicolas Batum. Yi is definitely in this draft, and Batum is a question. But I agree with your assessment that there are differing levels of talent overseas.
What seperates Europeans from collegiate prospects is the ability for teams to draft them and let them stay in the other league without taking up cap space or roster space.....a luxury for teams with plenty of talent already on a team.
agree on all of the mentioned and that any of them would be a great addition, but doubt that we have a chance to get any of them in the draft.
a player like Nichols or maybe Derrick Byars, who looked great this year, are more realistic and might also pan out as exactly what the Spurs need.
an interesting case for the Spurs to consider with the 2nd rounder is Reyshawn Terry. he was nowhere, last year he broke out and most saw a future 1st round pick if not a lottery pick in him, but this year he fell back to mediocrity. looking at physical tools and potential on defense and on offense, he would have it all. he might be a steal, if he slips to the mid or end 2nd round. would be nice for the Bulls pick we likely get.
Where does reyshawn terry go to school, and is there any reason for his less than steller play this year?
Saw Nick Young play a little last night. Pretty smooth player who came up big in a must-win game. He's a junior, so I'm not sure he'd come out if he's slated for a late first. Also is a SG, but he looks pretty nice.
Reyshawn Terry plays for UNC and his nickname is 'Radio' because he's not a very smart player. Nice physical tools, though.
If the Spurs had an open roster spot to put Reyshawn Terry on the Stephen Jackson plan, he just might be worth it. NBAdraft.net actually compares him to Jackson. But I wouldn't spend either the first rounder or the high second-rounder on him.
no, that would be to much of a risk. as I mentioned, he might be a good pick with the (unexpected) pick we will likely get from the Bulls (no.51 or lower)
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