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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070312/..._wh/us_iraq_18


    WASHINGTON - Vice President Cheney challenged lawmakers Monday to prove their support for U.S. troops and the war on terrorism by approving the Bush administration's requests for financing military action in Iraq and Afghanistan.


    "When members of Congress pursue an anti-war strategy that's been called 'slow bleeding,' they are not supporting the troops, they are undermining them," Cheney said in a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

    Cheney spoke at the start of a week in which the House plans to begin work on legislation providing nearly $100 billion for the rest of this year's costs of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, President Bush's full request for funds.

    "Anyone can say they support the troops and we should take them at their word, but the proof will come when it's time to provide the money," Cheney said.

    House Democratic leaders want to add provisions to the measure requiring the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops by the end of August 2008 and possibly by the end of 2007. Some anti-war Democrats prefer limiting the funds so the administration would essentially be forced to remove U.S. forces, a strategy that party leaders have abandoned.

    "We expect the House and Senate to meet the needs of our military and the generals leading the troops in battle on time and in full measure," Cheney said, accusing some legislators of giving lip service to proclamations of support for U.S. soldiers.

    "When members speak not of victory but of time limits, deadlines and other arbitrary measures, they are telling the enemy simply to watch the clock and wait us out," he said

    Is anyone else as tired as I am with Cheney. He needs to shut the phuck up. He has unsuccessfully tried to turn our miltary and country against Democrats for the past few years and I for one am tired of him opening his mouth. Time for you fade away into history ..January of 2009 cannot come soon enough you evil man.


    On a side note I am not wishing any harm against 5 deferrment . Well maybe a couple of sleepless nights because of his whoring of the unecessary war.. other than that no harm..

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    I think he's a breath of fresh air in American politics. Go yourself.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I think he's a breath of fresh air in American politics. Go yourself.

    Thankfully America rejected his is idea of patriotism. will go down as one of the most reviled VP's in history. One who tried to politicize the military and attack anyone who had the balls to call him on his rhetoric. Frankly does anyone listen to him anymore? Besides those of us who relish the thought that he is pretty much ignored by the majority of this country.

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    I think he's a breath of fresh air in American politics. Go yourself.

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    head as undermined 3200 US military into graves, 25000 other US military bodies and minds maimed, all their lives wasted for absolutely nothing except dubya's re-election. And counting ...

    YV, go head.

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    Thankfully America rejected his is idea of patriotism. will go down as one of the most reviled VP's in history. One who tried to politicize the military and attack anyone who had the balls to call him on his rhetoric. Frankly does anyone listen to him anymore? Besides those of us who relish the thought that he is pretty much ignored by the majority of this country.
    I am constantly amused by those who would ascribe all things evil to a man to whom no one listens.

    Vice President Cheney is only reviled by those whom he has rhetorically cut off at the knees...andy their sycophants.

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    head is a classic con man, with the articulation and gravitas to sound "con"vincing, but in his role as Evil Puppetmaster/Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, his con game of selling Iraq by exploiting the US's naive trust in the WH after 9/11 and bullying/sliming dissidents has produced disastrous, murderous results with no end in sight.

    His con game is no longer believed, except by people who $$gain from continuing to suck his infected .

    The corrupt govt contracting ethos he got rich from is epitomized by Halliburtion that has announced that it is moving its HQ to Dubai, to escape $Bs in US taxes.

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    I'm tired of Cheney. That said, he's got a point. The Vietnamese wrote the book on how to 'defeat America', all the insurgents are doing is following the same script (and sitting back and letting the American media do all the work).

    Sad, really.

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    "We expect the House and Senate to meet the needs of our military"

    head and rummy already ed over the military in 2003 by going in cheap, with not enough trooops and armor, then compounded that failure by appointing Bremer, non-experienced Repug shill, as CPA administrator who ed up Iraq so badly the military can't un it.

    head made this bed, but the military are bleeding to death in it.

    The blame, the murderous GUILT, for this up is 100% with dichkhead/rummy/dubya/condi/AEI/PNAC/etc,

    NOT with the US citizenry,

    NOT with the Congress ( ead had a rubberstamp Congress for 6 years and still couldn't KICK ASS in IRaq),

    NOT with the US media.

    He smart enough to know he and his legacy are totally ed so, head is laying the groundwork, speech by speech, Sunday morning by Sunday morning, for his inevitable of shifting of blame for "losing Iraq" from himself to any convenient scapegoat.

    Meanwhile al-Qaida and Taleban are gradually taking back Afghanistan and getting stronger and stronger in the Paki FATAs.

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    I'm tired of Cheney. That said, he's got a point. The Vietnamese wrote the book on how to 'defeat America', all the insurgents are doing is following the same script (and sitting back and letting the American media do all the work).

    Sad, really.
    No, what's sad is you thinking if the media weren't covering the war, all the car bombs would stop and the Iraqis would start throwing flowers at us instead of rocket grenades.

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    No, what's sad is you thinking if the media weren't covering the war, all the car bombs would stop and the Iraqis would start throwing flowers at us instead of rocket grenades.
    If the media weren't covering the war, there'd be no reason for the car bombs.

    What military purpose is served by killing innocent civilians except for that if it gets aired, it propagandizes for your side and terrorizes the opposition.

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    Random explosions worked in Saigon. Media or not, they would still use the tactic. Just like VN, the enemy within.

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    If the media weren't covering the war, there'd be no reason for the car bombs.

    What military purpose is served by killing innocent civilians except for that if it gets aired, it propagandizes for your side and terrorizes the opposition.
    If the media weren't covering the war, Bush would not have started it.

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    I always will respect a guy that shot somebody in the face.

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    If Cheney told me that something I was doing was wrong, I'd take great comfort that not only was it probably right, it was probably morally right, too.

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    If Cheney told me that something I was doing was wrong, I'd take great comfort that not only was it probably right, it was probably morally right, too.
    Nice compass.

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    "If the media weren't covering the war, there'd be no reason for the car bombs."

    You aren't this stupid, so you are just in lying.

    Iraq, and the world, doesn't revolve around the US military or the US media.

    Iraq is Sunni vs Shiite, ethnic cleansing, pure and simple.

    The US military are inconsequential by-standers, spilling their blood for nothing.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    If Cheney told me that something I was doing was wrong, I'd take great comfort that not only was it probably right, it was probably morally right, too.

    Nice

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    No, what's sad is you thinking if the media weren't covering the war, all the car bombs would stop and the Iraqis would start throwing flowers at us instead of rocket grenades.
    In Vietnam's museum for the Vietnam War, they have a huge exhibit that is basically a shrine to the American media, saying without them the Vietcong could not have won the war.

    At this rate, some day in Ramadi or Baghdad or Sadr City or wherever there's going to be a shrine to CNN, Dan Rather, etc.

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    The VC didn't win. The US public, after 50K dead and 250K injured, with no let up in sight, decided to quit.

    Typical Aggie, believe the spin from the Repugs, or from the VC, just believe the spin.

    Aggie prefers that the WH wage their bull war for oil in total secrecy, with the American people totally uninformed. How very American.

    Even with the war in total secrecy, Iraq would be the same lost hole today, because the Repugs were too ing stupid and incompetent to run the war successfully.

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    The VC didn't win. The US public, after 50K dead and 250K injured, with no let up in sight, decided to quit.

    Typical Aggie, believe the spin from the Repugs, or from the VC, just believe the spin.
    Read a history book, dumb .

    Aggie prefers that the WH wage their bull war for oil in total secrecy, with the American people totally uninformed. How very American.
    Do you even believe what you write? Waging a war for oil in total secrecy? And just where is this secret war?

    Even with the war in total secrecy, Iraq would be the same lost hole today, because the Repugs were too ing stupid and incompetent to run the war successfully.
    It's because our troops have about a million ing rules of engagement thanks to pussies like you that get upset if take anyone out before they start shooting at us. You either fight a war to win, accept collateral damage will occur, and do what needs to be done, or you ing pussy foot around everything like we have to thanks to the candy ass liberals in this country and more troops die because of it.

    Secret wars I've gotta go now boutons, the WH called, it's my turn to relieve the pilot flying the black helicopter in orbit over your house.

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    So now repubs want to end freedom of the press? What else is next? They already hate freedom of speech.

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    When radical Islamists bring this country to its knees - and that's going to happen because of the "appeasement first, appeasement only" approached preached by the liberals - none of the anti-Bush crowd will be spared by the enemy. Julia Roberts, the Dixie Chicks, Ward Churchill, George Clooney, Dennis Kucinich, Alec Baldwin, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry - all of them will be nuked and/or beheaded along with the NeoCons.

    I only hope I die of natural causes before that day comes to pass. Saying "I told you so" won't bring me any comfort on the day America dies.

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    When radical Islamists bring this country to its knees - and that's going to happen because of the "appeasement first, appeasement only" approached preached by the liberals - none of the anti-Bush crowd will be spared by the enemy. Julia Roberts, the Dixie Chicks, Ward Churchill, George Clooney, Dennis Kucinich, Alec Baldwin, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry - all of them will be nuked and/or beheaded along with the NeoCons.

    I only hope I die of natural causes before that day comes to pass. Saying "I told you so" won't bring me any comfort on the day America dies.
    So how is the Iraq war going to stop this? With estimates of of Al-Qaeda in Iraq around the 2% range what about the other 98%? So if I don't like the Iraq war can I still want to kill AL-Qaeda? You sound so sure so please let us in on your source. Or is this just a typical GOP talking point rant?

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    When radical Islamists bring this country to its knees - and that's going to happen because of the "appeasement first, appeasement only" approached preached by the liberals - none of the anti-Bush crowd will be spared by the enemy. Julia Roberts, the Dixie Chicks, Ward Churchill, George Clooney, Dennis Kucinich, Alec Baldwin, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry - all of them will be nuked and/or beheaded along with the NeoCons.
    No, I predict they will all convert and start shreiking "Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!"

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