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Kind of like when Al Gore say to Dan Quayle: "You, sir, are no Jack Kennedy," I also shall say, "Devin Harris, sir, is no Bruce Bowen."
Devin Harris isn't that great of a defender
plus for a point guard his assist to turnover ratio isn't anything close to write home about
Kind of like when Al Gore say to Dan Quayle: "You, sir, are no Jack Kennedy," I also shall say, "Devin Harris, sir, is no Bruce Bowen."
I think i'll have my more fun laughing as the Mavs choke away another le. Somebody should really help Dirk w/ those FT's.
At least he shut down Marbury (and Francis when Marbury wasn't in the game) last night and that was what was asked of him.
He may not be that great of a defender but nobody seems to score much on him. I'll take the results over the le and/or perception.
He's a winner.
Period.
Like I said, Harris is a good defender, just not that good of a point guard
devin is often guarding one of the opposing teams best players from game to game so thats respect. Second, the charges he draws are from the player hes defending therefore hes moving his feet well enough to stay in front of his man. I remember seeing him play against the nuggs a while back and drawing 2-3 charges straight up from AI. now thats saying something.
third, he is the best defensive pg in the west outside of tp and hes the quickest which is why he draws a ton of charges. and last i checked, a charge was a defensive stat. Harris ranks 4th overall so far this year and first amongst all pg's.
Last edited by Fromthebleachers; 03-21-2007 at 09:34 AM.
All I know is that when the league cracks down on floppers players like Harris and Manu are gona be ed
From the denver game...
"One of the keys to the Mavericks’ second half dominance was the defense of Devin Harris. Not only did he grab a career-high seven rebounds, he also put a strangle hold on Allen Iverson as the Mavs stretched out a big lead in the fourth quarter. Iverson finished with 26 points, but he also had nine turnovers to his credit – many of them thanks to the sticky defense of Harris.
“We think Devin is one of the best defensive point guards in the league,” said Avery Johnson post-game. “Night in and night out he’s giving up his body, he’s in position, he’s guarding the best player. What we’ve tried to do is let him guard more of the point guards now, guys his size. Our experiment with putting him on 6’8” two-guards was not a good thing for him. It kind of hurt some of his confidence, but we’ve got him back in his position of strength now and it seems to have carried over because he’s getting back to the basket.”
Yea, we get it, he is a great defensive point guard, but that doesnt make him a good point guard. Same thing with Bowen, great defensive small forward, doesnt make him a great small forward.
well i dont think the argument was ever about him being a good point guard. but we never needed him produce offense. pretty much the same way you use bowen.
But the thing is, Bowen wasnt a high 1st round pick that was expected to be more than he is. Just because he doesnt need to contribute offensively isnt a good exscuse for his lack of develpment. I just think that for a point guard, he has a long way to go
youre right , he does have a long way to go, but the same can be said of a lot of players in this league. regardless of how or in what order they were drafted they still have to learn the NBA game. whos to say that Harris wouldnt have fallen a little further in that draft? but anyways, his development has been solid going into this year, and he is becomming the player "defensively" that Avery wants. Now he has to get his offensive game into focus. We forget that pg is the most difficult position to play and is more cerebral than physical. Hes been getting by on his speed and quickness for so long that the simple nuances of the position have yet to catch up. and thats what avery and nellie have been harping on him about.
Yea, in that regard he is a lot like Tony when he first came into the league, relying too much on physical ability. And Im sure he will eventually turn into quite the player, I would just like to see his assists go up
I'm sure they would be higher in another offense. While the Mavs are getting more assists this season than in the past, their offense is still geared more towards mismatches and pick 'n rolls where there are no assists.
so would, i but you cant teach instincts. all avery can do is teach him the position, its up to harris to take the ball and run with it.(figuratively speaking)
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