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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    I included plenty of cereal, milk, eggs, toast, fruit for breakfast.

    Bottom frickin line is that you guys shouldn't sit here and worry about the nutritional value. You can definitely eat healthy enough on $155 per month. And guess what? It isn't supposed to be your life long diet. You need to find a job - you aren't supposed live on food stamps forever. So who cares if you are only get 72% of your required Vitamin B12 or whatever the for a few months.
    Maybe you missed it, but I already posted that most people use this program to help supplement their low pay, mostly in the service and retail sector. Those that don't work are kids, the very elderly, and the feeble. Kids make up a huge majority of those, you want them to work?

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    Maybe you missed it, but I already posted that most people use this program to help supplement their low pay, mostly in the service and retail sector. Those that don't work are kids, the very elderly, and the feeble. Kids make up a huge majority of those, you want them to work?
    No, I want you to realize two things.

    1. It's very possible to eat healthy on $155. Very very easily for a couple months. And not that incredibly hard even if you want to stay on long-term.

    2. People are supposed to get off food stamps.

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    Maybe you missed it, but I already posted that most people use this program to help supplement their low pay, mostly in the service and retail sector. Those that don't work are kids, the very elderly, and the feeble. Kids make up a huge majority of those, you want them to work?

    They get free lunches at the school, and end up going to summer school for free along with a free lunch.

    That's one hundred and fifty five dollars to buy them a months supply of cereal milk for breakfast, some snacks, and the rest you can just buy discount meats, and buy frozen pizzas, and RIce a ronis and hamburger helper.

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    No, I want you to realize two things.

    1. It's very possible to eat healthy on $155. Very very easily for a couple months. And not that incredibly hard even if you want to stay on long-term.

    2. People are supposed to get off food stamps.
    Nbadan just feels sorry for the poor kids becuase you wont be able to budget in Spiderman Capri Sun into their diet.

    And a childhood w/o Spiderman Capri Sun and Shrek poptarts is no childhood at all.

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    No, I want you to realize two things.

    1. It's very possible to eat healthy on $155. Very very easily for a couple months. And not that incredibly hard even if you want to stay on long-term.

    2. People are supposed to get off food stamps.
    How do you get someone with a fixed income and mouths to feed off a food aid?

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    Not to mention that kids eat fewer portions as well as the elderly.

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    One Week's Groceries

    12 frozen chicken breasts = 10.00
    Rice = 1.00
    Pasta or Top Ramen (lots of it) = 1.00
    Spaghetti sauce = 1.00
    3 cans of tuna = 2.25
    Mayo = 1.00 (a jar will last you at least a month, so you don't put the whole price per week)
    Cereal = 2.00
    Milk = 3.00
    Bread = 1.00
    Eggs = 1.00
    Ham = 2.00
    Frozen mixed Vegetables = 1.00
    Broccoli = 2.00
    Spinach = 2.00
    Beans = 1.00
    Tomatoes = 1.00
    Bag of Apples/oranges = 3.00
    Kool-Aid (or even better Flavor-Aid) = 12 packs for 1.00
    Multi-vitamins = FREE if you are on government assistance

    Grand Total = $36.25

    Nutritional.
    Plenty of meals.
    Fruits for snacks.
    Vitamins provided.

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    How do you get someone with a fixed income and mouths to feed off a food aid?

    1.get a better job, or get two.

    2.Strip.

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    They get free lunches at the school, and end up going to summer school for free along with a free lunch.

    That's one hundred and fifty five dollars to buy them a months supply of cereal milk for breakfast, some snacks, and the rest you can just buy discount meats, and buy frozen pizzas, and RIce a ronis and hamburger helper.
    Where's the fruits and veggies?

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    get a better job, or get two.

    Strip.
    Yeah, child labor is the answer!


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    Where's the fruits and veggies?
    Read my list.

    I know you want to cry for them. But don't.

    $155 is definitely enough to eat healthy.

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    Where's the fruits and veggies?
    buy them, their with in the budget, you have 155 dollars to feed for a whole month since the kids go to school, and get a free lunch.

    Take them to VBS.

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    One Week's Groceries

    12 frozen chicken breasts = 10.00
    Rice = 1.00
    Pasta or Top Ramen (lots of it) = 1.00
    Spaghetti sauce = 1.00
    3 cans of tuna = 2.25
    Mayo = 1.00 (a jar will last you at least a month, so you don't put the whole price per week)
    Cereal = 2.00
    Milk = 3.00
    Bread = 1.00
    Eggs = 1.00
    Ham = 2.00
    Frozen mixed Vegetables = 1.00
    Broccoli = 2.00
    Spinach = 2.00
    Beans = 1.00
    Tomatoes = 1.00
    Bag of Apples/oranges = 3.00
    Kool-Aid (or even better Flavor-Aid) = 12 packs for 1.00
    Multi-vitamins = FREE if you are on government assistance

    Grand Total = $36.25

    Nutritional.
    Plenty of meals.
    Fruits for snacks.
    Vitamins provided.

    Once again, your assuming that the poor have the ability to shop around for good food specials and can ration their food so that it doesn't spoil. Most markets in lower income areas don't accommodate lower income life-styles. They try and take advantage of them. You can budget your food because you have the gas and the vehicle to shop around and you probably still spend a hundred dollars a pop at the store and don't blink an eye. That your bias.

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    Once again, your assuming that the poor have the ability to shop around for good food specials and can ration their food so that it doesn't spoil. Most markets in lower income areas don't accommodate lower income life-styles. They try and take advantage of them. You can budget your food because you have the gas and the vehicle to shop around and you probably still spend a hundred dollars a pop at the store and don't blink an eye. That your bias.

    I worked with kids for several years in inner city Los Angeles, so I'm fully aware of their disadvantages. But, no matter how bleeding heart you want to be, $155 isn't that bad for a month of groceries for one person. No matter where you are shopping.

    Okay, I'm back out of the Political Forum for another few months. Thanks for the discussion.

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    I worked with kids for several years in inner city Los Angeles, so I'm fully aware of their disadvantages. But, no matter how bleeding heart you want to be, $155 isn't that bad for a month of groceries for one person. No matter where you are shopping.

    Okay, I'm back out of the Political Forum for another few months. Thanks for the discussion.
    We agree to disagree then. Good to have you around Kori, we will have some very interesting discussions.

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    Truth is, if you give a raise of 25 dollars, all they're gonna do is go out and buy a brisket slab and a pack of Corona.
    (shrugs)

    People will always abuse any system.

    Like it or not, some people will require help from time to time in any system, especially a free market one.

    I have this discussion with my libertarian friends all the time. I would rather put up with a certain level of fraud and abuse, than to have people literally starving in the wealthiest nation on the planet.

    I am not saying that abuse should be ignored or unpunished, and there certainly should be an audit system in place, but the end goal of helping those who genuinely need it outweighs any quibbling over 10 or 20 bucks in benefits.

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    1.get a better job, or get two.

    2.Strip.
    ... and if you have kids that are too young to put into school?

    Daycare for small children will eat a $6.00/hr paycheck or two very fast, and those kids in daycare WILL get sick.

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    ... and if you have kids that are too young to put into school?

    Daycare for small children will eat a $6.00/hr paycheck or two very fast, and those kids in daycare WILL get sick.

    wic

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    Daycare cost a fortune. Would you like these kids to go to school year round just for the meals? Should they just stop eating for summertime? Should the parents just lock the kids in a closet until they get home from work? Are there any solutions that accompany this outrage about 155 ing, lame dollars?

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    Daycare cost a fortune. Would you like these kids to go to school year round just for the meals? Should they just stop eating for summertime? Should the parents just lock the kids in a closet until they get home from work? Are there any solutions that accompany this outrage about 155 ing, lame dollars?

    155 damn dollars will get those kids some damn 155 dollars worth of cereals and milk, sandwiches, and a meat portion and macaroni for dinner, or someother pasta.

    Unless your kid eats a in triceratops for brunch, i dont see how you could not get those kids any food.

    Consider that those same people that have foodstamps happen to be some of the hugest lardasses ever, your point is moot.

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    Daycare cost a fortune. Would you like these kids to go to school year round just for the meals? Should they just stop eating for summertime? Should the parents just lock the kids in a closet until they get home from work? Are there any solutions that accompany this outrage about 155 ing, lame dollars?

    Ever heard of Head Start?

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    Why do lump each of them together, and suggest that all programs are available to them?

    You must really be pissed at public housing, HUD.

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    Why do lump each of them together, and suggest that all programs are available to them?

    You must really be pissed at public housing, HUD.
    gtown is among the many people in this country that think they know what it is to be poor but have no idea whatsoever.

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    How do you get someone with a fixed income and mouths to feed off a food aid?
    You give them free condoms and tell them to STOP THE HAVING KIDS! The more kids you have the more $$ your mooching off the rest of us busting our asses to make a living.

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    gtown is among the many people in this country that think they know what it is to be poor but have no idea whatsoever.
    And you're among the many people in this country that thinks it's everyone's job to take care of the lazy...err....less fortunate.

    Sure some people need assistance but I see a LOAD of people that are just straight up lazy and would rather sit at home and watch Springer then get a ing job.

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