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    Excuse me, but you do have to get a job if you are able to work, when recieving foodstamps. Call a local DHS office. You've proven nothing false. You think they just throw out figures on how much to give to families? You think a family of two would just get a thousand dollars in foodstamps? No, it's over a hundred for the parent and about a hundred for the child which would come to 278 for both the adult and the child (a family of two) which may have recently been raised a couple dollars actually. I broke it down on how they arrive at that amount (when it's the maximum), so you continue to be wrong and still don't understand what I'm talking about.

    But I do apologize though, it was my fault, because I was speaking in terms that mostly people who know about these things firsthand would understand.


    There are households where the parent is legally disabled and cannot work.

    This is why I say don't talk to me like you know about this when you don't. Search for all the links you want. Go into a local DHS office and ask questions so you can get a clue.

    Now where did i make a claim like that, about a thousand dollars?

    GO ahead and find the post in this thread or anywhere on this site and prove the ridiculous claim you try to put on me.

    Is this how you win arguments? It seems pretty simple. All you have to do is repudiate talking points your opponent never made, and throw insults.

    If you want to keep on arguing like this go to the College Sports forum where your ridiculous brand of strawman tactics and hyperbole fit.

    Otherwise go back to your regular blowhard self indignant routine you play here.

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    Public housing does not make sense economically. It just lowers the standard of living while creating a shortage of houses, along with a black market of houses that is biased with long, long, long waiting lists.

    With that said, some may feel it is better to have something, rather than nothing.
    It does lower the standard of living, for tenants. Constant issues over repairs and the criminal enviornment. A real dead end. However, if you can purchase a large number of buildings and units that are tied to HUD and section 8, you could have a windfall. LA is the perfect example. You market yourself as a property management company, slap on a maintenence division to create constant income at inflated levels, and its all gravy.

    You see, there are never any vacancies to the rent roll. If you lose a tenant, you win. Charge 3 times the actual cost of make ready, using your maint. div. that is stocked with cheap undo ented labor. Pass the cost on to the tax payer. All you need is one guy with a contractors license. Actually, you don't really need the guy, just the license.

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    Now where did i make a claim like that, about a thousand dollars?

    GO ahead and find the post in this thread or anywhere on this site and prove the ridiculous claim you try to put on me.

    Is this how you win arguments? It seems pretty simple. All you have to do is repudiate talking points your opponent never made, and throw insults.

    If you want to keep on arguing like this go to the College Sports forum where your ridiculous brand of strawman tactics and hyperbole fit.

    Otherwise go back to your regular blowhard self indignant routine you play here.
    Man gtown, don't blow a gasket. Now, I don't need to win arguements by making statements up, that's more of a gtown tactic. I've only used facts with you, always, that's how you've always been shown to be wrong.

    I never said that You said a family of two gets a thousand dollars, but I think you already know that's not what I meant. You know you were wrong so you gotta change the subject and complicate things and want to divert attention from the fact that you have it wrong on these subjects as usual. That's why your entire post is about This and not about everything else you were wrong about.

    I was giving an example as to how they arrive at limits per family, because your ignorance doesn't allow you to understand the "100 dollars per person after the adult" statement.

    In other words (example: do they just randomly say "Ok we'll give a family of two a thousand dollars")?

    No, they don't. A family of two gets 278 for a reason. Over a hundred for the adult, (because adults eat more than kids), then about a hundred for the child, per child, and so on, hence the 278 for two people. If it were 3 people, it would be about a hundred more than that, etc. In the upper 300, lower 400 range.

    Again, I apologize. I was speaking again, in terms that only people who know these things firsthand would understand.

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    Man gtown, don't blow a gasket. Now, I don't need to win arguements by making statements up, that's more of a gtown tactic. I've only used facts with you, always, that's how you've always been shown to be wrong.

    I never said that You said a family of two gets a thousand dollars, but I think you already know that's not what I meant. You know you were wrong so you gotta change the subject and complicate things and want to divert attention from the fact that you have it wrong on these subjects as usual. That's why your entire post is about This and not about everything else you were wrong about.

    I was giving an example as to how they arrive at limits per family, because your ignorance doesn't allow you to understand the "100 dollars per person after the adult" statement.

    In other words (example: do they just randomly say "Ok we'll give a family of two a thousand dollars")?

    No, they don't. A family of two gets 278 for a reason. Over a hundred for the adult, (because adults eat more than kids), then about a hundred for the child, per child, and so on, hence the 278 for two people. If it were 3 people, it would be about a hundred more than that, etc. In the upper 300, lower 400 range.

    Again, I apologize. I was speaking again, in terms that only people who know these things firsthand would understand.

    I'm sorry, I respect your sympathy for the downtrodden and all you do,.....but i don't think i'm arguing with a person with any sense of self awareness and honesty anymore, you are a fanatic.

    You truly tried to exagerrate my claims, i never even gave an estimate, i only provided a link from the USDA that dispells your claim, and furthermore asserts that every food stamp recipient recieves their stamps based on their work as well, and not a 100 dollar award you have been spouting all along.

    I'm sorry i only provided links that contradicted you and you only proceeded to weasel your way out of your self ownage.

    Theres nothing for me to show.

    I may be wrong on the moral issue of this, but any impartial observer will see you for your shameless tactics.

    Have a nice day.

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    I'm sorry, I respect your sympathy for the downtrodden and all you do,.....but i don't think i'm arguing with a person with any sense of self awareness and honesty anymore, you are a fanatic.

    You truly tried to exagerrate my claims, i never even gave an estimate, i only provided a link from the USDA that dispells your claim, and furthermore asserts that every food stamp recipient recieves their stamps based on their work as well, and not a 100 dollar award you have been spouting all along.

    I'm sorry i only provided links that contradicted you and you only proceeded to weasel your way out of your self ownage.

    Theres nothing for me to show.

    I may be wrong on the moral issue of this, but any impartial observer will see you for your shameless tactics.

    Have a nice day.
    You are ridiculous. You have no idea how wrong you actually are, that is sad. I already explained that I never exagerrated your claims, I gave an example. If you would go back and read my posts, my examples were based on a family that recieves the "maximum" amount of foodstamps and how that is determined. Someone would have to be a moron to not know that someones work is also a determining factor. Again, I did work for DHS, and you actually think You can weasel out and make ridiculous accusations of me.

    It's just that you have no 1st hand knowledge of what your talking about, that's why you don't understand. But sometimes you do understand, but pretend like you don't. You have proved nothing. Go to a foodstamp recipient and they will tell you that they roughly get about 100 per child, if you ask them. It's the kind of talk that people in these cir stances understand.

    What's so difficult to understand about that? I should probably have nothing more to tell You, actually. You just don't see it. And honestly, you don't really want to. Seriously.

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    Some people think the poor enjoy being poor.

    And some others are simply not very charitable.

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    Some people think the poor enjoy being poor.

    And some others are simply not very charitable.
    Most people do not stay poor all their life. That is a
    fact.

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    Most people do not stay poor all their life. That is a
    fact.
    In America, I guess.

    Check out what goes on in Africa.

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    I got so tired of seeing people in line using their lonestar cards and then hoping into their new 35k SUV I just went ahead and got my own lonestar card. Can't beat them...join them.

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    I got so tired of seeing people in line using their lonestar cards and then hoping into their new 35k SUV I just went ahead and got my own lonestar card. Can't beat them...join them.
    And what kind of SUV do you drive?

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    I don't. I don't even have two vehicles. We have one 1998 Ford F-150 we share to conserve on gas until we get another vehicle, I sold my other truck and sometimes carpool. It won't likely buy an SUV either. Maybe an Altima or Accord or something.

    I get the lonestar recredited once a month around the middle of the month. Good thing my meatmarket takes it.

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    Food stamp bill today

    43.00 choice bone-in rib-eyes

    3.00 couple of cans of baked beans

    26.00 two racks of baby backs

    6.00 V & V sausage

    4.00 couple of bottles of BBQ sauce

    2.50 milk

    Total 78.50.

    Couple a hundred left over for the rest of the month. This card rocks.

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    Hey they say some folks will give you cash at a discounted
    price of course for the credit on your lonestar.

    If you play it right it will make the payments on a new SUV

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    I do that all the time. I have some relatives that sell me the money on their lonestar card. 200 bucks lonestar money for 125 cash in their hand. Typical lonestar carriers are hard up for cash all the time.

    Great way to save some extra money.

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    Gotto bump this thread

    Australia soon to have same food stamp card like america

    300bucks works out to be US$240-$260 a month for each family....ciggies n alcki not on list....

    dont think it applies to single parents = lame

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