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I'm looking for the quote you referred to. The one concerning the "stuff for those who don't want to work, etc..". Oh wait your just making stuff up as you go along..my bad.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070529/clint...nomy.html?.v=1
Yikes. Shared prosperity?
Special privileges for none, but then she wants to have all this socialistic stuff for those who don't want to work, etc..."I prefer a 'we're all in it together' society," she said. "I believe our government can once again work for all Americans. It can promote the great American tradition of opportunity for all and special privileges for none."
I'm looking for the quote you referred to. The one concerning the "stuff for those who don't want to work, etc..". Oh wait your just making stuff up as you go along..my bad.
Why should I have to share my fairness with others? This ain't russia
Yeah, Hillary's never talked about socialist health care before. The only reason there isn't a quote in that article is that she's in full blown presidential candidate mode, which means saying things without giving anyone a sound bite.
Seeings you appear to be such a simpleton I guess putting her past actions together with her message about reforming various things is too much for you to comprehend.
A vast majority of US public and major corps want a universal health plan.
People and corps are getting tired of being exposed to risk of cancelled insurance after paying 10s of $Ks for years, of fighting for coverage, of paying premiums through the nose and then high deductibles and heavy co-payments.
The vast majority of people who delcare personal bankrupty do so for medical bills AND nearly all of them had health insurance.
The for-profit health care industry is ing over the entire country and people are fed up.
The for-profit health care industry is wealthy enough to buy the compliance of politicians in the criminal shake-down.
But don't you feel bad for those that don't have enough fairness of their own?
I got my fairness fair-and-square; why should the government take some of my fairness and give it to some lazy bum?
Because sharing fairness improves the quality of life for the entire nation.
Am I wrong or isn't this still the United States of America? No one should go without fairness in this country.
Gee boutons, government never screws over anyone.
Right. I'll have to remember that.
Especially at tax filing time!
NO! They can get out and root with the hogs, just like
the rest of us.
And before you make some dumb statement I don't mean
those that are sick or disabled and unable to help them-
selves. They need help.
quiet, you old fool!!
Yeah I guess. The gall of her to actually think that access to basic healthcare is a right..how socialist of her..
can you find any quote regarding her wanting 'socialism'? Now if you are going to explain to me that we can simply infer from what she says then I guess we could do the same for Republicans.
What about those that are sick or disabled or unable to help themselves? Oh, wait a minute.....
don't forget those kids of parents who made bad choices..another caveat for ray to include.. i guess ray is ok for kids to suffer because of their parents bad choices..
Universal health care is going to happen for better or worse.
Chump, you are absolutely correct in this assumption.
And some on this forum will have to eat their words about
how great it will be.
earth to ray WE ALREADY HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE... how about letting those folks who do not have insurance have access to basic non-ER healthcare? You and I won't be going to any of these clinics because we would choose to keep our insurance..see everybody wins and our local govt's don't have to keep footing the bill for the uninsured colds and mild sprains..
George, I just don't like having to pay for my insurance and
"the others". My tax for Bexar county hospital district last
year was 120.00. And my taxes on my "retirement" was
considerably more. Now that may not bother you, but it does
me, since some of my tax money also went to support s
and other "wonderful causes". Seems our elected officials make
decisions on how I should contributed to all the worthy
causes.
I have a question for all of those who say our healthcare system will collapse with universal healthcare.
If a program came out that gave the entire country a choice to join a universal healthcare plan. One option would be that you could opt out and keep your own private insurance. What would be so bad about that? I would certainly stay within my own company sponsored health coverage but this at least gives the uninsiured a way of getting some type of preventative care. So if you have insurance already don't participate. IF you are unfortunate enough to be fired/layed off etc. wouldn't it be somewhat reassuring that your kids would still be able to see a doctor?
So if this new plan would alleviate your 120.00 county tax isn't that a good thing?
And I will bite..how do your taxes support ' s'?
It wont though. As for the , I don't know if you live
in San Antonio or not, but the city council "gives" the
EsperanzaPeace and Justice Center a considerable amount of tax money each year. And when they didn't:
......Emphasizing the word diversity, Kastely reflected on disputes swirling around artistic freedom, "like the Brooklyn Museum's Sensation exhibit," where Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani sought to revoke city financing, but "the Court ruled in favor of the first amendment." Most recently, she said, "governments have been called upon to deny funding to museums that displayed the work of Chicana artist Alma Lopez, who depicted the Virgen of Guadalupe in a rose-petal bikini."
In terms of the historical "settlement" between the City Council and the Esperanza, Kastely also emphasized that the half-a-million dollar payment did not mean that the case will be dismissed in exchange for compensation. "This agreement," she explained, "includes a consent decree which we expect that Judge García will enter as an order." The consent decree is important, she said, "because the City concedes that there is a risk of Cons utional violations and Open Meeting Act violations in the future and the Esperanza and other plaintiffs are en led to protection against such future violations."
"We mujeres, Chicanas,lesbianas, people of conciencia, learned something from the Civil Rights Movement of the past," explains Sánchez, taking a break from the frenetic activity at the Center after the City Council’s settlement vote on Thursday afternoon. ...
Yours or my tax dollars at work....
Oh, I have never claimed the health care system would "break
down", just that you or anyone else for that matter will not be able
to have the same quality of health care you now enjoy.
Government should be sceveeeeeeeerly limited it why it is there: Mainly, national security.
This effectively, ultimately, breaks down in to 4 brances: Military: You can't have a private military, and the reasons are too lengthy to get into right now. Most have to do with economics...
Infrostructure: You have a difficult time with private infrostructure, not only that, but the reason we have a interstate system is so our military can quickly and effectively move around our country for defensive purposed, originally designed to have a truck going 55 mph caring nuclear warheads, without having to slow down...
Education: A trained skilled workforce = less reliance on outside countries for buisness (not elimination, but certainly the abillity to be self relient to an extent)
Healcare: On the surface, this means things like Bioterror, but deeper, this even applies to acts of fate, such as outbreaks of pandemics. IF we are weak physically, we are weak nationally.
There should also be some, i repete SOME, intervention by the govt' to help optamize the economy, as markets by themselvs tend to fail in certain situations involving scarce 'excludable' and rival resources.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit: Can't forget soverignty: You HAVE TO PROTECT THE BORDERS. PERIOD! My dad is an immagrant. He went through and the army to get his citizenship, and it is for the best, according to him... There is an issue here of countries not in refugee status that they need to come to modernization on their own and not come here. I don't care about of our economy needs it now, it may hurt, but we will adjust. It is just not safe, not economically feesable, that people who don't pay taxes and who have no real desire to be part of the country (not part of the 'religion, not part of the ethnic group', just who simply work with the intention of living here for heaven's sake, or at least with some kind of legal visa).
This is irrespective of fairness, just safety! I don't even understand the other arguement... sounds emotional to me.
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...and this differs from the performance of the current administration how, exactly?
Um, health care industry reform is a pretty damn big difference from taking money from all of us who are busting our asses every day at a job and handing it over to the poor. What's next? Standing in line waiting for toilet paper?
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